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What are your opinions on DVNR? — Page 2

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I don’t mind DNR. Film grain is annoying when you watch an old film on an HD or 4K TV, and it obscures a lot of detail, such as the skin on some characters and some objects in the background. Plus, I don’t want to have to be reminded that I’m watching something that isn’t really happening, I want to watch something that feels as if you’re seeing a real event with your own eyes.

Sure, DNR has its flaws, like how it makes the image quality a little muddy and blurry, but it’s better than having to see these little specks while watching an old movie on an HD or 4K TV all the time.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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DVNR is just a tool. When used right , it’s great. When not, it’s terrible.
Also, just like any tool, it isn’t always needed for the job at hand.
But, sometimes grain is distractingly noisy.
Example: I prefer the 4K77-DVRNed edition of Star Wars to the non. There’s still plenty of natural grain, but it’s not like looking through a sandstorm.
Meanwhile, I’d rather watch Predator on VHS than the DVNRed-to-hell BD disc.

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In between level 6 or 7 for me.

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I guess I’m in the 6 or 7 range, too, although my thoughts are a little more complicated. I haven’t seen Predator on blu-ray, so I can’t make an opinion on the grain issue, but in general, I’ll take a filthy, grainy image over a clean, plasticky image in most cases. Maybe my opinion would change if I saw an example where the grain interferes with the movie, but I’ve never experienced it.

I have altered Lucas’ visions. Pray I don’t alter them any further.

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probably somewhere between a 7 and 10. But it depends on the movie and the quality of the elements. Some need managed grain removal that is carefully done and not just hitting a button on the entire movie.

I’d prefer none. But you get cases where the grain level is unacceptable. Like if you don’t have the original negative and you end up with duplication grain. Some films with lots of age, speckles, splices and dirt need some repairs.

But you also have films where they had access to the original first generation elements and just DVNR for the hell of it like the new edition of Star Trek the motion picture, that actually kind of pissed me off. Why go back to the 65mm neg and vistavision masters just to do that. Its ridiculous.