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suspiciouscoffee said:

The Stranger by Albert Camus (English translation, as I unfortunately don’t know French)

I read it as an assignment for my AP Literature class. I went ahead and read the whole thing tonight because it’s short, and found it occasionally amusing, but philisophically worthless.

This was a monumentally stupid take. Way to go me-from-last-fall.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

The Stranger by Albert Camus (English translation, as I unfortunately don’t know French)

I read it as an assignment for my AP Literature class. I went ahead and read the whole thing tonight because it’s short, and found it occasionally amusing, but philisophically worthless.

This was a monumentally stupid take. Way to go me-from-last-fall.

At this rate, you’ll be praising Triumph of the Will by August.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago (and who said he learned language simply from spying on a particular family) should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

It’s not that I expected the monster to do not much more than grunt and moan, as is the modern cultural trope for his character, but he should have broken English skills rather than sound fairly well educated. As for the story, it seemed to focus largely from the perspective of Dr. Frankenstein, who is an arrogant jerk to put it mildly.

I suppose Frankenstein just really isn’t a horror novel. It’s tragic. So maybe in part the story just wasn’t what I was expecting. But then it’s not entirely tragic because both Dr. Frankenstein’s terror in general is mostly unjustified, and the monster actually is dangerous despite his protestations to the contrary.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago (and who said he learned language simply from spying on a particular family) should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

I’d rather read “I ought to be thy Adam, but I am thy fallen angel,” than “eeeeuuurrgghhhhh.”

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suspiciouscoffee said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago (and who said he learned language simply from spying on a particular family) should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

I’d rather read “I ought to be thy Adam, but I am thy fallen angel,” than “eeeeuuurrgghhhhh.”

As I said, he could have language, but he ought to struggle with it. “Thee”'s, “thy”'s and “thou”'s from such a character, and in paragraphs and pages of unbroken eloquent speech, just weren’t believable from an uneducated mind such as his.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago (and who said he learned language simply from spying on a particular family) should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

I’d rather read “I ought to be thy Adam, but I am thy fallen angel,” than “eeeeuuurrgghhhhh.”

As I said, he could have language, but he ought to struggle with it. “Thee”'s, “thy”'s and “thou”'s from such a character, and in paragraphs and pages of unbroken eloquent speech, just weren’t believable from an uneducated mind such as his.

It also isn’t believable for an 18th century doctor to have abiogenetically cultured an artificial human in a laboratory, either.

Methinks you’re evaluating what is essentially a (then) modern mythological cautionary tale in a wholly wrong light.

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chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago (and who said he learned language simply from spying on a particular family) should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

I’d rather read “I ought to be thy Adam, but I am thy fallen angel,” than “eeeeuuurrgghhhhh.”

As I said, he could have language, but he ought to struggle with it. “Thee”'s, “thy”'s and “thou”'s from such a character, and in paragraphs and pages of unbroken eloquent speech, just weren’t believable from an uneducated mind such as his.

Those words weren’t fancy at the time.

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DominicCobb said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago (and who said he learned language simply from spying on a particular family) should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

I’d rather read “I ought to be thy Adam, but I am thy fallen angel,” than “eeeeuuurrgghhhhh.”

As I said, he could have language, but he ought to struggle with it. “Thee”'s, “thy”'s and “thou”'s from such a character, and in paragraphs and pages of unbroken eloquent speech, just weren’t believable from an uneducated mind such as his.

Those words weren’t fancy at the time.

It’s not the words. it’s the eloquence in speaking them. His language skills can not be learned from scratch in a year.

DuracellEnergizer said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

chyron8472 said:

suspiciouscoffee said:

Frankenstein by Mary Shelley

My favorite class-required read. I’m tempted to steal this class copy.

I listened to Frankenstein recently, and I wasn’t very keen on it. For one thing the monster seemed so very eloquent with his speech, which broke my immersion because a being who had no understanding of language at all not so long ago (and who said he learned language simply from spying on a particular family) should have language skills that are rudimentary at best. This among other issues. The story just didn’t captivate me.

Dracula, on the other hand, was fantastic.

I’d rather read “I ought to be thy Adam, but I am thy fallen angel,” than “eeeeuuurrgghhhhh.”

As I said, he could have language, but he ought to struggle with it. “Thee”'s, “thy”'s and “thou”'s from such a character, and in paragraphs and pages of unbroken eloquent speech, just weren’t believable from an uneducated mind such as his.

It also isn’t believable for an 18th century doctor to have abiogenetically cultured an artificial human in a laboratory, either.

Methinks you’re evaluating what is essentially a (then) modern mythological cautionary tale in a wholly wrong light.

No, it broke my suspension of disbelief.

Also, Dr. Frankenstein is basically a douche, so when he’s in terror for his life or well being I wasn’t sympathetic. Much of the book takes place from his perspective.

As an aside, and neither positive nor negative, the story was much shorter than I expected it to be.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Methinks you’re evaluating what is essentially a (then) modern mythological cautionary tale in a wholly wrong light.

No, it broke my suspension of disbelief.

Also, Dr. Frankenstein is basically a douche, so when he’s in terror for his life or well being I wasn’t sympathetic. Much of the book takes place from his perspective.

The monster’s the one we’re supposed to sympathize with.

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DuracellEnergizer said:

chyron8472 said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Methinks you’re evaluating what is essentially a (then) modern mythological cautionary tale in a wholly wrong light.

No, it broke my suspension of disbelief.

Also, Dr. Frankenstein is basically a douche, so when he’s in terror for his life or well being I wasn’t sympathetic. Much of the book takes place from his perspective.

The monster’s the one we’re supposed to sympathize with.

Stop being a dumb lib’ral

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And since the unspoken comparison between Frankenstein and Dracula’s in the air, I’ll just say I found the latter a poor read. It was strong in the beginning, but following the Demeter sequence, it became tedious, with effete/obnoxious speech patterns, interminable blood transfusions, and Van Helsing’s general quakery robbing the proceedings of any vigor the story previously possessed. I had to struggle to get through the entire book.

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Frankenstein’s monster would’ve been less compelling if he couldn’t speak eloquently.

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I found a particular hardcover book for $5 in a bargain bin at the local grocery store. I couldn’t pass it up.
It’s a recent YA retelling of Return of the Jedi.

And it inspired me to listen to the audiobook, which I already own.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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I’m reading A Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man, because I read an article a couple weeks ago about how I ought to read Ulysses this year for the hundredth anniversary, but that I ought to read Portrait and Dubliners first. I like it a lot better than I did in high school. This could be the start of a wonderful Joyce kick.

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Finished Star Wars: Return of the Jedi - Beware the Power of the Dark Side!.

A fantastic read/listen from start to finish.

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chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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My wife loves the The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit novels, but the audiobooks have lots of annoying singing by Rob Inglis. We tried listening to them once upon a time, but kept having to fast forward through many minutes of horrible singing, which hurt the listening experience.

So this week I fixed it. I edited out all of the songs from the entire series, except for reinserting about half a dozen that have good renditions on Youtube from Clamavi De Profundis, and the “Chip the Glasses and Crack the Plates” from the live action The Hobbit film.

inAudible’s splitter, joiner, and audio editor tools were invaluable and made the process super easy. I only had to use Audacity for a couple of them.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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It always irritates me when there’s singing or song lyrics in books. It doesn’t translate well from audio to writing.

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chyron8472 said:

having looked at other books by Nick Podehl, I started listening to Free the Darkness, King’s Dark Tidings book 1.

Fantastic story, and I’m only on Chapter 4 so far.

Finished Book 2 of King’s Dark Tidings. Still amazing.

Then got through another section (Book 9 so far) of War and Peace. War and Peace so far is… an interesting listen, but would likely be quite a boring read. For one thing, characters sometimes speak untranslated French. For another, it seems more like a journal of events rather than a tale, since there isn’t a clear plotline. The story is basically of the lives of certain Russian aristocrats during the time of Russia’s war against Napoleon.

[JEDIT:] I read a review, prior to starting War and Peace, that the epilogues(!) are super long and more an analysis or commentary on the human condition or whatever it was. It was advised to just skip them and stop reading when I reach the end of the main body of the text, which will cut down on the length of the book considerably. …So I deleted the epilogue sections from my audiobook entirely when I was chapterizing it. [/JEDIT]

 
Now, on a whim, I’ve started a different book. Dune.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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Dune is split up into 3 “books”. I told my wife I was getting to the end of book 1 but still didn’t know what was going on, or who these people are, or why I should care. She said she remembered reading Dune once upon a time and couldn’t get into it, and suggested I stop reading it. So I did.

JEDIT: War and Peace is such more interesting, coming back to it after the confusing snoozefest that was Dune.

TV’s Frink said:

chyron just put a big Ric pic in your sig and be done with it.

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chyron8472 said:
but the audiobooks have lots of annoying singing by Rob Inglis.

Now if only It was Rob Zombie. Now that would be awesome!

“Get over violence, madness and death? What else is there?”

Also known as Mr. Liquid Jungle.