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Stardust1138 said:

I’d love to see a story that follows through with George’s Sequel plans of showing the Whills and microbiotic world. I’m so fascinated by the Force and the lore surrounding it. I know I’m in the minority though and in turn know it most likely will never happen.

Ugh, no thanks. George had 30 years to do a Sequel Trilogy, but chose not to, and even denied there was ever going be one. Then got upset because the company who had just paid him $4 billion for Star Wars wouldn’t make and pay for his newly planned Sequel film ideas for him. To me, why would someone want to see those Sequel plans as a standalone film? It may be interesting to see someone else’s POV on the Force as a spinoff film, but not from George.

Star Wars is such an amazing sandbox, the stories you could come up with are so vast, from so many artists with so viewpoints, and contrasting styles. Now, be brave and don’t look back. Don’t look back.
 

I am eagerly anticipating Rogue Squadron, but would also see like to see a standalone film told from an Imperial POV. Or maybe from the POV of a group civilians and the impact that the Rebellion and Empire have on them.

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ken-obi said:

Stardust1138 said:

I’d love to see a story that follows through with George’s Sequel plans of showing the Whills and microbiotic world. I’m so fascinated by the Force and the lore surrounding it. I know I’m in the minority though and in turn know it most likely will never happen.

Ugh, no thanks. George had 30 years to do a Sequel Trilogy, but chose not to, and even denied there was ever going be one. Then got upset because the company who had just paid him $4 billion for Star Wars wouldn’t make and pay for his newly planned Sequel film ideas for him. To me, why would someone want to see those Sequel plans as a standalone film? It may be interesting to see someone else’s POV on the Force as a spinoff film, but not from George.

Star Wars is such an amazing sandbox, the stories you could come up with are so vast, from so many artists with so viewpoints, and contrasting styles. Now, be brave and don’t look back. Don’t look back.
 

I am eagerly anticipating Rogue Squadron, but would also see like to see a standalone film told from an Imperial POV. Or maybe from the POV of a group civilians and the impact that the Rebellion and Empire have on them.

Disney bought his Sequel treatments as part of the sale. They just chose not to use them.

I’m also sure George chose not to make them because he was waiting for the cast to age up for roles he had in mind for them in the stories he wanted to tell. The technology also hadn’t fully caught up to having CGI characters like we are getting now to deage them where neccessary. I’m equally sure the backlash from some fans took a toll on him. Why would he want to do more? Especially when some fans are going to tell him that he’s wrong and doesn’t know his own creation. Some fans just want the same kind of story they got with the Original Trilogy. They want something like a spaghetti western and to feel gritty like the first two to three films. George couldn’t make that anymore as he’d be compromising his principles by not experimenting with new ideas and interpretations of his work. These interpretations I find both respected what came before but always added to the mythos and lore.

I find the idea of exploring the Whills and Midi-Chlorians vastly more interesting than getting member berries and continued space westerns. I find it so much more interesting and intriguing exploring the Force and how it connects within a greater whole. It becomes even more painfully noticeable how it’s always been there and was always building to something that eclipses the entire universe the more you watch the films I-VI as he intended. The Yoda Arc in The Clone Wars is some of the best content in all of Star Wars during the George Lucas era. I don’t really feel that sense of wonder and experimentation that often with Disney era content. The exceptions are very, very rare. Today Star Wars feels designed more around what fans expect of the franchise instead of trying new things. I do find when they do try new things it’s mostly good on its own merits but doesn’t respect what came before nearly enough. It’s a very big problem with modern Star Wars for me. It doesn’t respect what came before and is instead designed to be like the Original Trilogy and is now starting to appeal to the Prequel Trilogy generation. This just doesn’t work for me. I don’t need to be pleased. I like being challenged and having my ideas of what Star Wars can be challenged in a way that respects what came before and even if it doesn’t neccessary respect things I can still appreciate it for trying to be something new.

I’m not really finding that experimental viewpoint yet but maybe one day soon as Star Wars: Eclipse does look promising. So we’ll have to wait and see. It’s not that I even hate what Disney is doing per say but it just doesn’t hit me in the same way. It’s more hit and miss compared to before. It’s quite the contrast but in the end I’m glad some fans are enjoying the content we’re getting. I wouldn’t want to take that away from them.

I hope Rogue Squadron is everything you’re hoping for and more.

Here’s one of my favourite video essays that explores some of why I’m also intrigued by George’s ideas in case you’re curious further:

https://youtu.be/ZbfvS_BwCls

“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas

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Thankyou for writing all of that but I am not interested in reading George’s many differing ideas for his supposed Sequel Trilogy, especially not in a thread for standalone spinoffs from the main Saga films.

But if I ever want to do a drinking game I know to look for your posts with the words “George Lucas”, “Sequel Trilogy”, “midichlorians”, and “whills” 😃

I hope you get to see the films you wish to see someday.

But as I said above, Star Wars is such an amazing sandbox, the stories you could come up with are so vast, from so many artists with so viewpoints, and contrasting styles.

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I wanted to see George continue Luke’s story. I’m not at all interested in midichlorians. Or continuing anything from the prequels. Now we’ll never get the canon story of how Luke ended up after ROTJ.

Its like Bond just getting his license to kill and then we never get to see anymore movies.

I think it awesome that some people do love the prequels though more power to them. I wanted more swashbuckling adventure mixed with the spiritual aspects of the force and teaching the next generation of Jedi.

Maybe Lucas would have had all of these elements in his script but we will never know.

a spinoff describing the first force shamans who communicated with the Whills would be far out, like really weird. But maybe they could do history of the Jedi Bendu and the Bogan who became the Sith. and the first war between the Jedi and the Sith.

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JadedSkywalker said:

I wanted to see George continue Luke’s story. I’m not at all interested in midichlorians. Or continuing anything from the prequels. Now we’ll never get the canon story of how Luke ended up after ROTJ.

Its like Bond just getting his license to kill and then we never get to see anymore movies.

I think it awesome that some people do love the prequels though more power to them. I wanted more swashbuckling adventure mixed with the spiritual aspects of the force and teaching the next generation of Jedi.

Maybe Lucas would have had all of these elements in his script but we will never know.

a spinoff describing the first force shamans who communicated with the Whills would be far out, like really weird. But maybe they could do history of the Jedi Bendu and the Bogan who became the Sith. and the first war between the Jedi and the Sith.

Well we will have the mandolorian season 3, and I feel like Luke will be important.

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Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

I’d like to see Jar Jar get lured to the dark side and become a Sith.

They should just retcon attack of the clones and make a episode 2 where Jar Jar Binks becomes a sith.

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Before Grogu, I always thought it would be cool to see a really young Yoda set 700 years before The Phantom Menace. We watch his village attacked and his parents murdered right in front of him by a lightsaber wielding Sith, one of the very few remaining.

The Sith villain has visions of a great teacher who trains Jedi. This teacher is Yoda, and he just starts killing Yoda’s kind without knowing his identity. We see Yoda go through many emotions throughout the story.

An older recluse of his kind survives by not being in the village on the night of the attack. He teaches Yoda about the force, to seek out knowledge and to find the mysterious Jedi, he travels to many different places and he eventually finds them.

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Stardust1138 said:

I’d love to see a story that follows through with George’s Sequel plans of showing the Whills and microbiotic world. I’m so fascinated by the Force and the lore surrounding it. I know I’m in the minority though and in turn know it most likely will never happen.

I’ve definitely been hoping this happens eventually. I don’t need his versions of the Sequels proper, just all this Force deeplore.

Now we’ll never get the canon story of how Luke ended up after ROTJ.

Its like Bond just getting his license to kill and then we never get to see anymore movies.

That’s just patently false. We’ve had two different continuities exploring what happens after, and just because it wasn’t written by the original author doesn’t mean it’s not canon. Besides, Lucas never even wrote TESB or RotJ.

Before Grogu, I always thought it would be cool to see a really young Yoda set 700 years before The Phantom Menace. We watch his village attacked and his parents murdered right in front of him by a lightsaber wielding Sith, one of the very few remaining.

The Sith villain has visions of a great teacher who trains Jedi. This teacher is Yoda, and he just starts killing Yoda’s kind without knowing his identity. We see Yoda go through many emotions throughout the story.

An older recluse of his kind survives by not being in the village on the night of the attack. He teaches Yoda about the force, to seek out knowledge and to find the mysterious Jedi, he travels to many different places and he eventually finds them.

That reveals a bit too much about Yoda’s species.

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I’d love to see a live action Clone Wars film. Just a random story set during the war. Possibly starring Anakin and Obi-Wan, possibly starring someone else. I’d just love to see more from that era in live action with current visual effects technology.

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leftshoe18 said:

I’d love to see a live action Clone Wars film. Just a random story set during the war. Possibly starring Anakin and Obi-Wan, possibly starring someone else. I’d just love to see more from that era in live action with current visual effects technology.

That could have happened in 2006-07, but now in 2022, I seriously doubt it.

Maybe in an important flashback scene, but not the whole thing.

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De-aging tech has come a long way. But that’s also why I said maybe starring different characters to get around that particular issue.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Stardust1138 said:

Now we’ll never get the canon story of how Luke ended up after ROTJ.

Its like Bond just getting his license to kill and then we never get to see anymore movies.

That’s just patently false. We’ve had two different continuities exploring what happens after, and just because it wasn’t written by the original author doesn’t mean it’s not canon. Besides, Lucas never even wrote TESB or RotJ.

Lucas wrote all six movies he was involved in.

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Omni said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Stardust1138 said:

Now we’ll never get the canon story of how Luke ended up after ROTJ.

Its like Bond just getting his license to kill and then we never get to see anymore movies.

That’s just patently false. We’ve had two different continuities exploring what happens after, and just because it wasn’t written by the original author doesn’t mean it’s not canon. Besides, Lucas never even wrote TESB or RotJ.

Lucas wrote all six movies he was involved in.

Leigh Brackett, Lawrence Kasdan, and Michael Arndt would probably disagree with you.

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Star Wars: A Holdo story. That character’s sacrifice really made me interested in seeing more of her backstory.

Also, Star Wars: Nameless Guy In Prison.

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thebluefrog said:

Star Wars: A Holdo story. That character’s sacrifice really made me interested in seeing more of her backstory.

She appears in the novel Leia: Princess of Alderaan by Claudia Gray, if you’re interested. She’s currently popped up in some current Star Wars comics set between TESB and ROTJ, as a friend to Leia helping her try to save Han.

“Remember, the Force will be with you. Always.”

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canofhumdingers said:

Omni said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Stardust1138 said:

Now we’ll never get the canon story of how Luke ended up after ROTJ.

Its like Bond just getting his license to kill and then we never get to see anymore movies.

That’s just patently false. We’ve had two different continuities exploring what happens after, and just because it wasn’t written by the original author doesn’t mean it’s not canon. Besides, Lucas never even wrote TESB or RotJ.

Lucas wrote all six movies he was involved in.

Leigh Brackett, Lawrence Kasdan, and Michael Arndt would probably disagree with you.

Leigh Brackett is given screenwriting credit out of respect from George because she passed away during early stages of the process of creating the film. It was also mostly already written before Lawerence Kasdan came into the picture. Little known facts are the relationship between Han and Leia wasn’t how he envisioned it and that he’s also said he had a big role on the film but his writing contributions were small. Funny how that works when many consider it to be his biggest contribution. That’s not to downgrade his contributions as he was definitely a piece to the puzzle like touching up Yoda’s dialogue but it’s overblown just how much he worked on it. George also doesn’t like taking too many credits for his own work according to Howard Kazanjian. He wasn’t involved in Episode VII. So you can scratch off Michael Arndt from the list of those you included.

“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas

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A film showing what Palpatine was doing during ANH, with a screenplay written by James Luceno.

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leftshoe18 said:

De-aging tech has come a long way. But that’s also why I said maybe starring different characters to get around that particular issue.

Finally time for the long-awaited Kit Fisto film!

thebluefrog said:

Star Wars: A Holdo story. That character’s sacrifice really made me interested in seeing more of her backstory.

That’s never gonna happen given the character’s reception.

Also shouldn’t it be Holdo: A Star Wars story, not the other way around?

He wasn’t involved in Episode VII.

He absolutely was. The entire premise of the Sequels grew out of his initial outline in some capacity. Rey and Finn as characters date back to his involvement, as does Luke’s exile. He was personally present in early meetings and even approved some concept art. Was the finished product his vision? Not in the slightest, but that doesn’t change the fact that he was involved early on.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

He absolutely was. The entire premise of the Sequels grew out of his initial outline in some capacity. Rey and Finn as characters date back to his involvement, as does Luke’s exile. He was personally present in early meetings and even approved some concept art. Was the finished product his vision? Not in the slightest, but that doesn’t change the fact that he was involved early on.

According to Bob Iger:

"Early on, Kathy brought J.J. and Michael Arndt up to Northern California to meet with George at his ranch and talk about their ideas for the film. George immediately got upset as they began to describe the plot and it dawned on him that we weren’t using one of the stories he submitted during the negotiations.

The truth was, Kathy, J.J., Alan, and I had discussed the direction in which the saga should go, and we all agreed that it wasn’t what George had outlined. George knew we weren’t contractually bound to anything, but he thought that our buying the story treatments was a tacit promise that we’d follow them, and he was disappointed that his story was being discarded."

He wasn’t involved in the making of Episode VII. Loose threads and cherry picking doesn’t count to me. Especially when they claimed early on that they only made a few departures and not wholesale changes. That proved to be factually incorrect. Same with when they claimed the protagonists would be teenagers but that’s not true either as George himself said they were in their 20’s. With regards to the points you made the character that became Rey was known as Kira, Tayrn, and even Winter in early concepts from George apparently according to Pablo Hidalgo but even he might be wrong about certain details as he said Luke died in George’s Episode VIII but we have both George and Mark Hamill dispute this claim by saying Luke died in Episode IX. The broad stroke of a girl Jedi becoming the Jedi Master seems to come from George but that’s an easy thing to cherry pick. She was also a Solowalker. She was not in thr Sequels we got. Same with the Solowalker son falling to the Dark Side. The character that became Finn was nothing like George envisioned either as it was Lawrence Kasdan who came up with the idea to make him a deserted stormtrooper. The concept art that he approved ended up getting discarded in favour of Original Trilogy 2.0. You can see the creativity die as he exited for nostalgia in X-Wings and TIE Fighters instead of Darth Talon, Solowalker Grandchildren, and a sphere shaped Jedi Temple. The list of differences goes on and on.

George’s Sequel Trilogy:

Then after the Rebels won, there were no more stormtroopers in my version of the third trilogy.

I had planned for the first trilogy to be about the father, the second trilogy to be about the son, and the third trilogy to be about the daughter and the grandchildren.

Episode VII, VIII, and IX would take ideas from what happened after the Iraq War. “Okay, you fought the war, you killed everybody, now what are you going to do?” Rebuilding afterwards is harder than starting a rebellion or fighting the war. When you win the war and you disband the opposing army, what do they do? The stormtroopers would be like Saddam Hussein’s Ba’athist fighters that joined ISIS and kept on fighting. The stormtroopers refuse to give up when the Republic win.

They want to be stormtroopers forever, so they go to a far corner of the galaxy, start their own country and their own rebellion.

There’s a power vacuum so gangsters, like the Hutts, are taking advantage of the situation, and there is chaos. The key person is Darth Maul, who had been resurrected in The Clone Wars cartoons—he brings all the gangs together.

Paul Duncan: Was Darth Maul the main villain?

George Lucas: Yeah, but he’s very old, and we have two versions of him. One is with a set of cybernetic legs like a spider, and then later on he has metal legs and he was a little bit bigger, more of a superhero. We did all this in the animated series, he was in a bunch of episodes.

Darth Maul trained a girl, Darth Talon, who was in the comic books as his apprentice. She was the new Darth Vader, and most of the action was with her. So these were the two main villains of the trilogy. Maul eventually becomes the godfather of crime in the universe because, as the Empire falls, he takes over.

The movies are about how Leia—I mean, who else is going to be the leader?—is trying to build the Republic. They still have the apparatus of the Republic but they have to get it under control from the gangsters. That was the main story.

It starts out a few years after Return of the Jedi and we establish pretty quickly that there’s this underworld, there are these offshoot stormtroopers who started their own planets, and that Luke is trying to restart the Jedi. He puts the word out, so out of 100,000 Jedi, maybe 50 or 100 are left. The Jedi have to grow again from scratch, so Luke has to find two- and three-year-olds, and train them. It’ll be 20 years before you have a new generation of Jedi.

By the end of the trilogy Luke would have rebuilt much of the Jedi, and we would have the renewal of the New Republic, with Leia, Senator Organa, becoming the Supreme Chancellor in charge of everything. So she ended up being the Chosen One.

“The midi-chlorians started the birth process in Anakin’s mother. The Whills communicated the command to the midi-chlorians, which activated the DNA that germinated the egg. That’s why Anakin doesn’t have a father. He was in a bizarre and metaphorical way touched by God, but in this case they happened to be one-celled animals.”

He also said that Sifo-Dyas was Palpatine’s apprentice before Darth Maul and he ordered the Clone Army while pretending to still be a Jedi the entire time.

“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas

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Anakin Starkiller said:

I’m aware of George’s many Sequel Trilogy synopses.

Yes I recongise that but what he had in mind is vastly different from what we ended up getting as his vision was discarded in favour of Original Trilogy 2.0.

“Heroes come in all sizes, and you don’t have to be a giant hero. You can be a very small hero. It’s just as important to understand that accepting self-responsibility for the things you do, having good manners, caring about other people - these are heroic acts. Everybody has the choice of being a hero or not being a hero every day of their lives.” - George Lucas