We should sue George Lucas. — Page 4

I find that Picture of Lucas and JJ to be really scary.  Please for the love of all that is good in this world keep Lucas as far away from trek 2009 as possible.  He already single handedly runied star wars and indiana jones.

You want advice on the new trek movie JJ go talk to Manny Coto nit George "i love to rape childhoods" Lucas.

Well i saw those pictures from Empire magazine and i have to say it does look like trek 90210.

rcb said:

 http://www.startrek.com/startrek/view/news/editorials/article/2312154.html

Here's the cast and comparisons. i find they did a good job, however the kirk character is a little one tree hillish. i don't watch that btw. it says the old and new kirks and spocks will be in the movies.

as far as is said, no clue of the plot, and is to be released in summer 2009.

Whoa, Shatner is going to be in it after all? Am I understanding you right on that one? I didn't read the article myself. I am not really sure I want to see a fat Kirk in this film...

With CG!  Sorta how CG Jabba is smaller than puppet Jabba!  But, yeah, that is gonna be kinda weird since Kirk died "fourteen years" ago, and William Shatner has aged significantly since then.  They probably won't deal with the issue and just hope we suspend disbelief because it's so cool that the Shat is back in a Star Trek movie.  I might be able to deal with that just as long as they manage to come up with a plausible way to get around the death issue, which, in my mind, is much more important than Shatner's appearance in '94 vs. '08.

J.J. said before that Shatner would not be in it, because he could not find a way around the fact that Kirk is already dead, and he felt it important to keep the continuity. So I am surprised to now hear that this has changed, kind of disappointing too, not that I don't want to see Shatner, but I would rather have continuity remain intact to some degree. And he is a very round pudgy man these days, while that is what has become of the actor William Shatner, I'd rather not see that be what becomes of Capt. James T. Kirk as well.

I know Shatner put up quite a melodramatic fuss at his not being in the film, maybe he kept whinning and they caved.

How about that that info is from 2007 and he is no longer in the movie and the scenes in the first draft script were not even shot, possibly not even written.  Star Trek.com has been dead for over a year and has yet to be revived.  The last Updates were like when the HD-DVD set came out for season 1 and we know Cbs/Paramount purposely put their money on the wrong horse because even then they knew Blu Ray would win.  They only wanted dumb fans money and offered them a release that was obsolete as soon as they bought it.

Ah, its an old article. That explains it. Really? ST.com is dead? That is really sad. Disappointing to see the kind of treatment something that was once so well respected gets. "All Good Things..."

I have heard the site will get a relaunch in 2009 with the new movie.  If it does well than perhaps the site will stay if not dark days ahead for trekkies.

Who knows maybe the site was to expensive to maintain Like the StarWars.com site was before the premium content was charged for i hope startrek.com does not become a paysite like that, we shall see.

If the JJ picture fails star trek is officially finished.  you cannot spend 150- 200 million dollars on a movie and have it be a massive flop and expect a franchise to be reborn out of that.

They have not gone with the edenFX guys who did tests for tos reamstered but were dropped in favor of cbs in house inferior cgi work.  The edenFX guys did the mirror universe enterprise episodes with The consititution Class defiant .  They also did less than stellar work on nemesis when the effects in nemesis are compared to those ILM did for First Contact.  So ILM got the new film and the cgi budget for the effects is something like 60 million dollars.

Star Trek has always been about the Starship Enterprise if the trailer comes out in november and ILM nails the design the movie will at least get the trekkies into theaters.  Though that alone won't carry a film of this magnitude they have to get general film audience like with star trek IV, and First Contact.

If the enterprise is botched and looks nothing Like the one seen in star trek the motion picture refit, the tv series, or the enterprise A (my personal Favorite) consider this a movie that i will not go to see.

I hope the Enterprise does not look More advanced in trek 2009 than the enterprise E looked, lol.

I remember one of the complaints about the NX-01 was that it looked so much more advanced and newer than the 60's tv enterprise.  This had nothing to do with continuity and everything with the difference in production from the sixties to the 2000s a huge leap forward in effects.  People that expected the effects to be even more primative than the first tv show to make it fit continuity could never be pleased.

Hmm, although I am saddened that the site is basically dead, I am now kind of hoping it doesn't get relaunched. The word "relaunched" makes me think of design change, and over the years I have grown rather fond of the way it is, and would not like to see that change. I am also not sure I'd like to see J.J.'s trek plastered all over that site, I think that is better off at its own site where it is now.

oops double post.  Post comment below.

Turns out hunter6 was right.  I posted some criticisms on the trekmovie.com site and was automatically banned no warning from a mod or an e-mail, nothing.  But my posts don't show when i post them.

So much for free speech.  The forums nazis over there must love their little nerd life of banning people for no good reason.

Perhaps i should go to TFN and get banned there as well for saying how shitty the clone wars is.

I just hope the worst does not happen and star trek Branches off into another continuity, the JJ verse of trek.

It is either in the Spirit of Roddenberry or the Trekkies will boycott on opening day.

I mean their are so many subdevisions of the continuity already the pure roddenberry one.  The Nicholas Meyer and Nimoy one, The Shatner verse which is thankfully mostly kept to the novels except for star trek V.  The Berman/moore verse.

you know, hunter 6, cpx, skyjedi and the rest of you..

how does suing George Lucas affect Star Trek?

is there a reason you guys can't post this in the right topic?

especially you skyjedi.... you are having serious problems,

you post in the right thread:

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http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Will-the-The-New-J-J-Abrams-Star-Trek-destroy-the-Legacy-of-the-original-1960s-series-Discussion/topic/9670/

and then you can't seem to keep it there?

do you want me to copy your posts over there for you?

is that so hard?

later

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Yo, -1,

First off, sueing Lucas was the dumbest proposal anyone has ever made at this site, this is the type of thread that needs to be derailed in a serious way.

Secondly, all of us have been here a lot longer than you, and topics around here often tend to wonder off topic, the "forum police" really don't care if we talk about Star Trek in a topic titled "We should sue George Lucas". Sorry it offends you so much. My suggestion is not to click on this thread anymore, that way you will avoid some pain and upset. But do as you wish.

So no, it is not hard to click on the thread for ST, but we just don't want to, thanks for going through the trouble of making a link for us, but I am afraid we wont be using that link. Just think of the chaos we would cause if sometime during out Star Trek conversation, we decided to start talking about suing Lucas again, it would be a catastrophy!!

And as for telling sky he has serious problems, you are a funny poster to be telling any other poster than he has serious problems.

I love all the fan edits that this site does, but man you guys posts are exhuasting to read....do you like anything?

C3PX said:

Yo, -1,

First off, sueing Lucas was the dumbest proposal anyone has ever made at this site, this is the type of thread that needs to be derailed in a serious way.

And as for telling sky he has serious problems, you are a funny poster to be telling any other poster than he has serious problems.

please point to all my  'off topic' posts, misposted topics, and threads, and i might believe you.. (not including commentary like this...)

i'm not a forum cop, but if you think the title of this thread was ridiculous, why did you

post here?

its just hard to find out new responses in topics, and see its about something completely

different..

the 'search' feature works great on this board,

why not use it? that's what i meant..

later

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AxiaEuxine said:

I love all the fan edits that this site does, but man you guys posts are exhuasting to read....do you like anything?

 maybe you should rephrase that as, 'do you like anything besides the original star wars trilogy'

(and you would probably find people here also, that didn't like all 3 of them...go figure)..

later

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AxiaEuxine said:

I love all the fan edits that this site does, but man you guys posts are exhuasting to read....do you like anything?

Still trying to figure out why you are here if all you do is complain about everyone elses posts. Must be some odd form of masochism. Not suggesting your not welcome here, just wondering why you keep coming back when you dislike it so much.

(EDIT: You can skip the following paragraph, rcb summed it up perfectly in one sentence.)

We like plenty of things. Don't tell me you never come home from work and complain to your wife about colleages? Here we are a peer group that share interests. We are annoyed about things like the lack of a OOT DVD release, we can talk about it here with others who feel the same way. Same goes for the new Star Trek movie, plenty of fans are skeptical, we like to share that skepticism and hear what others think. In a world full of plenty of real problems, sometimes it is nice to worry about menial and pointless things, in the end we know they don't really matter.

AxiaEuxine said:

I love all the fan edits that this site does, but man you guys posts are exhuasting to read....do you like anything?

Yes- we like the 1977, 1980 and 1983 versions of the OT films, which is the reason this site was created.

This site was not originally created for fan edits. That has been a fortunate side-affect, but the main purpose of this site was and is to get the 1977, 1980 and 1983 versions of the OT films remastered and released in a up-to-date format (which today means anamorphic DVD or blu-ray).

Since the goal of this site has not yet been realized, I imagine (& hope) that there will be much talk about the subject for some time to come.