We F'ed up the petition

We should've been more specific with what we wanted in the petition. In the petition it suggests a limited release with the '04 version included! We should've demanded a permanent DVD release, restored and transferred from the original 35mm prints in anamorphic widescreen and NO SE included!! It wouldn't have hurt to also demand deleted scenes, extra footage, old documentries and such included with the DVD release. I think we all assumed if GL would do this that he would treat it with the best quality possible he always boast himself and his companies stand by. Well he didn't, he took advantage of the loop holes in the petition and we probably blew our only chance to have this done. I don't think LFL or outsiders are going to take another petition seriously, they will just see us as too picky and need to get a life. You can see the petition and where this post originated here.

I know how.  Money.

Stop buying crap until he puts out a quality product.

Hey guys, don't log in much anymore, cause I really don't care about anything new in the SW world except a BluRay release of the OOT.

I don't think we f-d up at all, and you can look at the Superman II:Donnor Cut DVD and Bladerunner DVD to see how a grass roots internet following worked into getting great releases.  Both of those DVD's are anamorphic and are of great quality, with Bladerunner showcasing 5 versions of the movie for ALL fans.

I always defended Lucas on the PT, as I said to my friends, if you love em watch em, if you hate em walk away, but I could never defend Lucas on the 2006 OOT DVD, as that was just him being a dick to this fanbase.  Lucas thinks this part of the fanbase is a bunch of assholes who sabotaged his PT movies instead of realizing that this happens to all great directors when they put out mediocre movies that stack up to the originals.  Hey George, ask Coppola about Godfather III?  Ask Stallone about Rocky V?  Ask XMen fans about XMen 3? 

Whether Lucas puts out the OOT on BluRay, who really knows, but he knows the fans want it, the reps at Lucasfilm know the fans want it, or they wouldn't have bothered to put them on DVD in the first place.  Lucas can now count on the PT fanbase that made his Clone Wars movie such a hit only grossing 25 million and falling out of theaters within a month.  I know I'll wait for the OOT George, but I honestly don't care about the other stuff.

Does George Lucas honestly think his prequels are as good as the OT? If you really watch him in behind the scenes working on the movies, he really didn't have a clue what direction he was taking these movies and he even admits that a little in the commentaries. he was making it up as he went along and it shows!

We should mail copies of the fan edits to GL and show him how much better we are.

I'm just saying, there's a possibility that if we were more specific we might've gotten more of what we wanted. GL obviously read the petition, which means he was paying more attention to this site than what we thought. I wouldn't be surprised if he surfed our message boards a couple times. Asking for the OOT as a limited release with the SE included was a major blunder.

While there's no real point in "should have's," I do think that the whole laserdisc port vs. genuine dvd remastering thing is what allowed GL to get away with what he did. We can blame ourselves for this, but we'd be the only ones to do so. Who in their right mind digs up a laserdisc master of a 29 year old movie for its first time ever on dvd?!

No, I have a feeling George would've done this even if we had specified "remastered from an actual film print, thank you." No one at LFL ever even said they read that specific petition (as if there was any bigger one), they just said that there'd been a huge demand from fans for it.

Mielr said:

Janskeet said:  Asking for the OOT as a limited release with the SE included was a major blunder.

Did we do that? I don't remember signing that petition. LOL.

You can read the full petition through the link I posted in my OP.

It is in the second to last paragraph:

"Furthermore, we understand that you have commercial concerns and that you need to consider the financial viability of any home video product that you release. Perhaps a Limited Edition run of the original films along with a Special Edition release would be in order. This approach would sate niche market demand, while still targeting the general public and no doubt breaking home video sales records. We want it to be known that there is enormous demand for the original theatrical versions of the films. Your devoted fans would more than likely purchase both an Original Trilogy release as well as any Special Edition versions."

It's not like LFL didn't know what they were doing. There's a big huge elephant in the room when the '04 dvd's are enhanced for 16:9 television (like 99.999 percent of all widescreen dvd's out there) while the '06 bonus discs aren't and they go "but isn't that what you wanted?"

lordjedi said:

No director in their right mind would take a freaking laserdisc master from 1993, throw it on a DVD, and sell it in 2006.  And there's the problem.  George Lucas is not in his right mind.  Not anymore.

We didn't f'up a damn thing.  Lucas is f'ing things up just fine on his own.

 Rotfl!

CO said:

Lucas can now count on the PT fanbase that made his Clone Wars movie such a hit only grossing 25 million and falling out of theaters within a month.  I know I'll wait for the OOT George, but I honestly don't care about the other stuff.

Hey, The Clone Wars did badly? Cool! I wonder if the modern so-called-Star-Wars fad (created by the prequels) is dying down. He has that live action series planned for next year and I read they want to expand it into multiple live action series. We'll see how that does, but I can bet you it'll be crap anyways.

It does look like they did make the GOUT a limited edition release with added SE because they got the idea from the petition. But laserdisc 93 was all their own idea. I'm just worried Georgie can now tell himself "Those ungrateful fans, I gave them just what they asked for and they threw it back in my face. I won't give them anything else." Still, the GOUT is being rereleased as non-limited and that's a teensy bit of progress, so maybe we proved grateful enough to satisfy his bank account. Maybe there's hope for the future.

Btw, can anybody tell me what the letters in GOUT stand for?