Violent Video Games — Page 2

TV's Frink said:

Warbler said:

TheBoost said:

I in no way believe violent video games cause real violence. I don't support censorship or hysteria. 

On the other hand, I find them really disturbing. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I feel there's a point where graphics and sound have gotten so good that murdering a simulated human being in a game these days is worlds away from shooting cartoon Nazis in Wolfenstien 3D. 

I recently played a little "Batman- Arkham City." Awesome gameplay, but for whatever reason the violence, sexuality, and language were all maxed out far beyond what you'd expect from any aspect of the Batman franchise. 

Not sure I have a specific point. Thoughts?

 

I don't care how good the sound and graphics get, killing a someone in video game will never ever be the same as killing an actual human being. 

How do you know until you try it?

 

(don't try it)

You are allowed to kill bad people ...right? *twitches*

xhonzi said:

Talking to other people

Looking at other people

Lookin' out the window

xhonzi said:

Warbler said: I don't care how good the sound and graphics get,

 I care.

WRONG... *shit!*

     I wonder whether GTA is producing drivers with greater situational awareness and ability to act.

     I don't buy the idea that the games are the problem. There is a miniscule handful of the most extreme nuts who are obsessed with the idea of commiting these acts and wish to participate in them.

     They should be given an opportunity to back away and stop obsessing or, if under 21 or on parole, be placed in a secure environment until they demonstrate it's no longer important to them.

xhonzi said:

Warbler said:

I don't care how good the sound and graphics get,

 I care.

you quoted me out of context.

TV's Frink said:

Warbler said:

TheBoost said:

I in no way believe violent video games cause real violence. I don't support censorship or hysteria. 

On the other hand, I find them really disturbing. I'm not a hardcore gamer, but I feel there's a point where graphics and sound have gotten so good that murdering a simulated human being in a game these days is worlds away from shooting cartoon Nazis in Wolfenstien 3D. 

I recently played a little "Batman- Arkham City." Awesome gameplay, but for whatever reason the violence, sexuality, and language were all maxed out far beyond what you'd expect from any aspect of the Batman franchise. 

Not sure I have a specific point. Thoughts?

 

I don't care how good the sound and graphics get, killing a someone in video game will never ever be the same as killing an actual human being. 

How do you know until you try it?

 

 

(don't try it)

*sigh*

Bingowings said:

You are allowed to kill bad people ...right? *twitches*

it depends upon the situation. 

Say there was this manager at work who turned out to have a plan to run off with company secrets and he cruelly intimidated a colleague into acting for his personal purposes by threatening his wife and daughters and in the end caused a large number of deaths, including the nuclear destruction a mid western American City on September 22nd 1998, what would you do? What if you were in charge? 

TheBoost said:

timdiggerm said:

Just so you guys know, Bingo is using a picture from a movie that I haven't seen to communicate the idea of "stupid, silly games". In the film "The Hudsucker Proxy", they invent the hula-hoop. I'm guessing that is a design drawing of the hoop.

Specifically, I believe the line is "You know? For kids."

Talking about games with a mate at the bar, perhaps my view is skewed. He says many first person shooters are much more sci-fi, less realistic than the games I'm thinking of (which is skewed by the preferences of my nephews) and that many games are more about lazers and explosions than human faces being blown off, and would probably fall under a "Sci-Fi Violence" PG-13 rating as a movie.

No, I have to say it is way worse than PG-13 violence. Stuff like the M rated Halo I feel could easily fit into PG-13, maybe even the majority of the violence in the Call of Duty games*. But stuff like Bioshock and Left 4 Dead (both popular FPS games) are really gruesome.

*However, a piece of video game violence that stood out to me the most recently was a moment in COD: Modern Warfare 2 where you strangle a guy and see his wide eyes starring at you before they narrow and his eyes roll back in his head. No gore involved, but it was kind of intense.

NeverarGreat said:

I never understood the argument that kids need violent video games as an outlet for their hostility. I never played excessively violent video games growing up, other than Age of Empires and Warcraft 2.

I wouldn't consider Ages of Empires or Warcraft very violent at all.

I don't think kids need violent games as an outlet for hostility, but I do think they serve as a distraction and perhaps as a healthy means of venting frustrations (much like running around beating down milkweeds with a stick, or shooting targets with a BB gun, or riding a bike around the neighborhood at high speeds did for me when I was a kid). When I feel a bunch of pent up stress and frustration, I generally find fast paced action games to be cathartic. Though I rarely play games anymore, over the last three years I have found running around killing other players in Call of Duty to be a fantastic destressor, and far more healthy than the things I have been using as destressors over the last year.

thejediknighthusezni said:

     I wonder whether GTA is producing drivers with greater situational awareness and ability to act.

Oh, I had forgotten about that! GTA has never been my type of game and I've never really had any interest in it, but for some reason I did get into Vice City for a while. It marks one game where I did notice an effect on my behavior, I found it tempting to drive faster and more aggressively. I've always been a really safe driver, and these urges were easy to control, but I did notice them. It did not however, give me any urges to kill hookers, run over pedestrians, run from or shoot cops, or sell drugs from the back of ice cream trucks.

that would probably happen in real life too.