Video Games - a general discussion thread — Page 227

CP3S said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Been playing a lot of Fallout: New Vegas in my spare time.  Love the game, it's incredibly addicting, and improves on Fallout 3 in all the key ways (honestly, to me, it's more of a true Fallout 3 than the "real" one was).

But goddamn, does Bethesda need to work on releasing games that aren't glitchy as all hell.  Damn game freezes on me all the time - I get very nervous every time I'm traveling a wide, empty stretch of wasteland - it's frozen right when I got to where I was going before, necessitating a system restart ... and meaning I needed to start back from where I'd originally left and do the whole long walk all over again.  Ugh.

You're playing the PS3 version, right? The 360 version is even worse! I had to shelf the game and wait for a patch to be released over a month later before I was even able to beat it because of that dumb corrupt save file error the 360 versions suffered from.

Load times were so slow (hopefully the PS3 version was faster) that it really hindered my desire to want to explore. In Fallout 3 I wanted to go over every crook and cranny with a fine toothed comb and pretty much did, in New Vegas I'd see a shack nearby and walk right on past, even skipped over whole settlements, just because I knew I'd have to wait over a minute at the loading screen every time I walked through a door, and that was only if I were lucky enough for it not to freeze on me.

As excited as I was for New Vegas and for as much as I could have really loved it, I was ever so happy to beat the game and shelf it for good. Really left a bad taste in my mouth. If I ever get in the mood for some more Fallout in the future, Fallout 3, not New Vegas, is the game that is going in my console.

I am sure I am not being fair to the game's content, but I honestly didn't get to see all that much of it. When I feel like I am spending more time waiting at the load screens, getting up to restart my Xbox from a freeze, and waiting for everything to reload than time actually playing the game, it is really hard to feel motivated to play it.

 

I feel you, man, though it sounds like the 360 version is indeed worse than the PS3 version.  Loading times on the PS3 aren't too bad, and it never freezes while loading - just at inopportune times during gameplay.

I hope you'll give it another chance down the line, because it's definitely much better than Fallout 3.

I found the world to be a lot smaller and less diverse than FO3's. Anyway, it sounds like the bugs are about as fixed as they are ever going to get, so aside from revisiting it for the DLC, I can't imagine I'll be spending much more time exploring the original game. Even with the whole thing installed on my hard drive (which do speed it up a great deal) we are talking about load screens ranging in the minutes rather than the usual expected seconds range. I just don't see that as acceptable for a modern game, especially one that requires loading so frequently. It was hard to be impressed by the Vegas Strip when it takes no less than four load screens to walk through the whole thing.

Bingowings said:

In the middle of the dreaded Water Temple...I enjoy a challenge but it's just plain annoying but at least this time I've got a general idea where I'm going, even if my memories are from a very long time ago.

And if those memories are accurate it goes back to being fun and challenging once it's out of the way.

I assume you're referring to Ocarina of Time?  I played through it a few months ago and it was as awesome as ever.  I was surprised that I remembered what to do in the Water Temple as well as I did, given how confusing it is, but for some reason I never found it to be as bothersome as many apparently do.  The main trouble is just finding all the damn small keys, and the way you have to keep raising and lowering the water level in order to do so.  Actually, the part I hate most is at the end, when you have to go up the steep incline while avoiding the sliding spike things.  Ugh.

I'm quite a fan of Legend of Zelda in general.  Ocarina is still my favourite, with A Link to the Past and Twilight Princess not far behind.  Midna is my favourite character (easy to guess from my avatar).  The ending to TP makes me a lot sadder than it really should, but I can't help it.  I probably put more thought into Zelda as a whole than a game series really deserves, but . . . well, it's just that damn good!

Right now I'm slowly making my way through Super Mario RPG on the Virtual Console.  I loved this game as a kid and adore it still.  It's like the ultimate blend of Mario platforming and Final Fantasy turn-based combat; fitting since it was made by Square.  Shame characters like Mallow, Geno, and the Smithy Gang never got to reappear in any subsequent Nintendo games.

^I'm out of the woods now and to be honest it wasn't as bad as I was dreading.

When I played it all those years ago I hadn't a clue where I was going most of the time and the raising and lowering of the water level and the constant changing of boots mid flow is tedious enough when you have a rough idea where you are going but if you haven't a clue it's a tediously repetitive chapter in an otherwise amazing game.

The sub and main bosses of the level are such push overs too.

As I said earlier it's not the challenge I was dreading it was just the tedium any all done now and back to the fun (when I get the time).

You didn't have a hard time with Dark Link?  Man . . .

The first N64 version has a weird glitch where you can just stand on the little island in the middle and wail on him with the Megaton Hammer, and for some reason he usually won't fight back as long as you don't Z-target him.  This seems to have been removed from subsequent versions (along with dumb things like the change to the Fire Temple music).  I used to do it that way because he was too blasted difficult otherwise, but eventually I fought him properly, which required fairies and liberal use of Din's Fire.  Pretty quickly I learned never to use the stab move because he jump-slashes whenever you try, taking two hearts instead of the usual one, and he can block most of your other moves as well.  How did you defeat him so easily?

When I first played the game it took a couple of goes on Dark Link and Morpha (or whatever the Abyss tendril thing was called) but I discovered their very weaknesses rather quickly (Dark Link just get him near by swinging the Master Sword a bit and then hit him with Din's Fire and/or the Megaton Hammer, Morpha just stick yourself in a corner and keep hitting it's nucleus with the Longshot).

It wasn't too difficult to remember once you figured it out the first time.

Phantom Ganon was much more difficult for me because I'm rubbish at tennis and bouncing back his magic strikes was a genuine challenge.

The bosses much earlier in the game are more difficult because of not having access to the bottles for fairies or that much in the way of hearts.

I'm still miffed though about killing Desann in Jedi Outcast by accidentally knocking over a column.

I usually can't kill Desann any way at all without cheating.

His Force powers are maxed out to truly ridiculous levels, and his one-handed Strong style attack is way faster than what you can do back at him.  And there's no Absorb or Protect like there is in Jedi Academy--it's one of the most unfair fights I've ever seen.  I've even tried the column thing but could never make it work.

I tend to cheat on the Force powers, because it makes the game more fun.  I usually use a mod I found called More Reborn, which causes many more enemies throughout the game to be Dark Jedi, so it's much more exciting and interesting.

There's another mod that lets you play the Outcast levels in Academy, so you can use the dual-sabre and other improvements, which is really neat.

I swear I was just ducking behind a pillar and I accidentally gave it a knock with my saber and marmalised the guy on my first and only attempt after weeks of frustrating but fun times being killed by stormies spawned on platforms that they couldn't have got to without the Force, a teleport or a very big crane (how do they eat or go the toilet in such a working environment?).

I think I had more hassle from grenade chucking Grans than I ever got from the main boss.

I don't remember Dessan being super hard, but I do remember it taking me a few tries to beat him.

As for the water temple, maybe it has just been too long, but I don't remember it being that hard. We are talking about the one in lake Hyrule as adult Link, right?

So, a lot of talk about Ocarina of Time. Was anyone here ever much into Majora's Mask?

Majora's Mask has a lot of really cool ideas, but I've never been able to get into it as much as others.  It's so damn confusing and the time limit cramps my style, because it's really annoying to have to keep doing parts over again if you run out.  (Yes, I do know about slowing down time with the altered ocarina song--it helps but not completely.)  I still haven't managed to sustain interest in it long enough to get all the way through the whole game, but eventually I guess I will.

Tingle is annoying as shast, too.  :p

Majora's Mask was my last Zelda game. I loved the concept, but I actually had a really hard time getting into it. I think the repetitiveness had a lot to do with it, not a fan of playing the same thing twice... let alone over a dozen (dozens of?) times. But so many good concepts.

Just a few years back I played the Minish Cap (and loved it), and then a bit of The Windwaker (made it a few castles in, just didn't grab me).

I hated the RDJr Sherlock Holmes and have absolutely no interest in seeing the sequel. Weird.

xhonzi said:

The Mario games haven't fared so well.  Mario 2 went a little astray and I don't know of anybody who really likes Sunshine...

I liked Sunshine until the end, when it got kind of silly.

xhonzi said:

TV's Frink said:

xhonzi said:

The Mario games haven't fared so well.  Mario 2 went a little astray and I don't know of anybody who really likes Sunshine...

I liked Sunshine until the end, when it got kind of silly.

??? Which do you mean?  The Mario Game, The Movie, or the... you know... sunlight?

I've only heard of the movie. ;-)

xhonzi said:

CP3S said:

I hated the RDJr Sherlock Holmes and have absolutely no interest in seeing the sequel. Weird.

You're grumpy.

Not grumpy, just wasn't a fan of Guy Ritchie's take on Sherlock Holmes.

doubleofive said:

I wish we lived closer, I'd love to borrow games from your Pile of Games You'll Eventually Play.

So, you'd borrow games if you lived in Missouri? :P