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Darth Chaltab said:

I think he's in the strip club.

 

That is where I first saw him,but now I have to find him and recruit him,and I have no idea where he is at now LOL.

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captainsolo said:

Just picked up a gamecube with rogue leader. Anyone have any suggestions for good GC games? Speaking of Rogue Leader, what source of OT did they use for the menus? Also is the L4D sale on Xbox only or also for PC versions?

Good GameCube games: (Just my suggestions so your milage may vary)

Resident Evil Remix/Remake

Resident Evil 0

Resident Evil 4

Killer 7

METROID: Prime 1 & 2

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

 

Dunno of what else.

 

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Speaking of video games, Tales of Monkey Island comes out today! =D

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DarkGryphon2048 said:
captainsolo said:

Just picked up a gamecube with rogue leader. Anyone have any suggestions for good GC games? Speaking of Rogue Leader, what source of OT did they use for the menus? Also is the L4D sale on Xbox only or also for PC versions?

Good GameCube games: (Just my suggestions so your milage may vary)

Resident Evil Remix/Remake

Resident Evil 0

Resident Evil 4

Killer 7

METROID: Prime 1 & 2

The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker

 

Dunno of what else.

 

 

Definitely Resident Evil 4* (even if you didn't like any of the other RE games, this one is quite different)

Metroid Prime (go ahead an pick up the sequel too if you liked the first one. Personally, by the time I was done with the first one, I really wasn't feeling up to the sequel)

Both Rogue Squadron games

Legend of Zelda The Twilight Princess (if you are into Zelda games, Wind Waker isn't too bad either).

Super Smash Brothers Melee

If you like Metal Gear Solid a lot, Twin Snakes is worth picking up on the cheap.

Time Splitters 2 (if you liked Goldeneye and Perfect Dark on the N64, you definitely want to look into this one).

If you have ever liked any of the Turok games or fps in general, Turok: Evolution* is pretty decent.

Spider-Man 2* (a little dated now, but a very decent game. Novelty of it is that it is somewhat like a sandbox game... emphasis on the some what. Unlike most arcade style action games that make you follow a linear path).

 

Also, a general note to the new Gamecube owner, make sure you got one of the larger sized memory cards, for some reason Nintendo made them incredibly tiny to start with, and some time down the line wised up and released some more reasonably sized ones. You don't want to be constantly deleting saved games to make room for others. I'd also recommend avoiding third party memory cards, personally I have always had awful luck with third party stuff made for Nintendo consoles.

*also on PS2 and/or Xbox

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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C3PX said:

If you like Metal Gear Solid a lot, Twin Snakes is worth picking up on the cheap.

The Twin Snakes would have been great if not for the following problems:

- The ability to shoot in first person makes the game insanely easy compared to the original MGS
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Some of the re-recorded voice acting isn't quite up to snuff (though I have no problem with the change of Mei Ling and Naomi's accents)
- The ridiculous cutscenes (jumping off of a missile? WTF?)
- The fact that, despite all the changes, everything felt just a little too much the same (in fact, the majority of the game itself just feels like they took the original PS1 maps and put better textures on them), though this is a double-edged sword because you can't make it too different either

But I still enjoyed it quite a bit - I just highly prefer the original.

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ChainsawAsh said:
C3PX said:

If you like Metal Gear Solid a lot, Twin Snakes is worth picking up on the cheap.

The Twin Snakes would have been great if not for the following problems:

- The ability to shoot in first person makes the game insanely easy compared to the original MGS
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Some of the re-recorded voice acting isn't quite up to snuff (though I have no problem with the change of Mei Ling and Naomi's accents)
- The ridiculous cutscenes (jumping off of a missile? WTF?)
- The fact that, despite all the changes, everything felt just a little too much the same (in fact, the majority of the game itself just feels like they took the original PS1 maps and put better textures on them), though this is a double-edged sword because you can't make it too different either

But I still enjoyed it quite a bit - I just highly prefer the original.

When I played it I thought Snake did a damn backflip off the missle! LOL. Also if you can, look for a component cable thing for the GC if you can. I never should've sold my GameCube...

I tried out that demo for the first Episodic Wallace and Gromit game awhile ago. Good fun. Also been playing the Visual Boy Advance emulator and a ton of ROMs, including POKEYMANZ: Leaf Green. Great for a time killer but other than that the series if silly shit.

Speaking of emulators, I'd need to get a new USB analog controller since the left stick acts stupid in ZSNES and my NES emulator. So I'm stuck with GBA for now. I've also been downloading some Genesis/Mega Drive ROMs, GHOSTBUSTERS especially, and been looking for an Amiga emulator. I <3 ScummVM.

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ChainsawAsh said:

The Twin Snakes would have been great if not for the following problems:

- The ability to shoot in first person makes the game insanely easy compared to the original MGS
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Some of the re-recorded voice acting isn't quite up to snuff (though I have no problem with the change of Mei Ling and Naomi's accents)
- The ridiculous cutscenes (jumping off of a missile? WTF?)
- The fact that, despite all the changes, everything felt just a little too much the same (in fact, the majority of the game itself just feels like they took the original PS1 maps and put better textures on them), though this is a double-edged sword because you can't make it too different either

But I still enjoyed it quite a bit - I just highly prefer the original.

 

I much prefer the original voice acting, the new recordings were so different, they just felt wrong. As for the cutscene, I never made it that far in Twin Snakes, sounds lame, but the series always has been pretty over the top.

As far as everything feeling the same, you have to keep in mind that Twin Snakes was more of an introduction into the series for those Nintendo owners who had never experienced it on the PS, than it was a Special Edition for the enjoyment of old MGS veterans.

Remember, Nintendo was really taking a beating for their shortage of games aimed at the older crowd, and their stubborn dedication to the idea of keeping things cleaner than other consoles. By the end of the N64 era they realized they had lost most of the kids who had grown up with Nintendo, they had now moved over to Sony with feelings that they had outgrown the former. Nintendo realizing this profit losing disconnect way to late for their own good tried to recover. They made deals to get the Resident Evil games, which were all ported to GC, and with RE 4 even being a GC exclusive for a time, and the still GC exclusives of RE0 and the REmake. Metal Gear Solid: Twin Snakes was part of this effort, since MGS along with Resident Evil and Final Fantasy, where some of the more popular titles of the previous generation that were often cited as reasons to get a PS over a 64.

 

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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The Resident Evil remake managed to get the familiar/new balance just right for me.

I would have loved to have compared Twin Snakes with the original MGS but it's almost impossible to get second hand now without paying through the nose (it's one of those rare Gamecube games which is possibly more expensive now, well at least here, than it was when it first came out).

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It usually sells for about $25 bucks. I know that sounds like a lot for a GC game, but all things considered, that isn't too bad. The fact that it still cost that much shows that it is still a very desirable game.

Of course, I believe you are from the UK? So it may very well be a different story there. 

As I said before, Twin Snakes was more for those who had never gotten around to playing the first game before.

I think it is kind of funny, is how its name and cover art provide spoilers for the actually game. It would be like Empire Strikes Back having been titled, Star Wars Episode V: Father Vs. Son and having Luke dueling Vader on the poster.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Heh heh! Just happened to stop by a Target store other than the one I usually shop at to buy a few things, and just decided to zip by the Xbox games and see if they had any clearance copies of Left 4 Dead. On the shelf behind the glass was the Game of the Year Edition marked $59.99. I glanced down the side of it to check out the labels, and noticed one of the labels was in a different position than the rest, indicating that it was not the GOTY edition. So, I have now purchased yet another copy of Left 4 Dead for $12.48.

So, if any of you want this game on the cheap, I highly recommend checking your Targets. Obviously it is not too late, since I just got that copy today. The Target I found this one at is a pretty busy Target too. Other people on the internet have found copies of the regular edition hidden behind the GOTY edition, sounds like this is pretty common. It honestly makes no sense the regular edition should be clearanced so cheap when then GOTY edition's only difference is content that is downloadable for free. This is really a steal.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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C3PX said:

Heh heh! Just happened to stop by a Target store other than the one I usually shop at to buy a few things, and just decided to zip by the Xbox games and see if they had any clearance copies of Left 4 Dead. On the shelf behind the glass was the Game of the Year Edition marked $59.99. I glanced down the side of it to check out the labels, and noticed one of the labels was in a different position than the rest, indicating that it was not the GOTY edition. So, I have now purchased yet another copy of Left 4 Dead for $12.48.

So, if any of you want this game on the cheap, I highly recommend checking your Targets. Obviously it is not too late, since I just got that copy today. The Target I found this one at is a pretty busy Target too. Other people on the internet have found copies of the regular edition hidden behind the GOTY edition, sounds like this is pretty common. It honestly makes no sense the regular edition should be clearanced so cheap when then GOTY edition's only difference is content that is downloadable for free. This is really a steal.

 

I don't suppose you would be so kind as to check your Target Stores for any more,my Target does not have any left,DAMN.

I could PayPal some $ to you if you find it,if you are lucky enough to find it again LOL.

Thanks

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If I get by another Target store in my area I will. I already cleaned out the two closest to me, and in both cases I wasn't actually going there looking for the thing, I just got lucky. I have to go out of town today, and I think I am passing a Target. If I do I will drop in and check for you.

Left 4 Dead 2 comes out in November I think, no doubt the first one will take a big price cut after that.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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C3PX said:

If I get by another Target store in my area I will. I already cleaned out the two closest to me, and in both cases I wasn't actually going there looking for the thing, I just got lucky. I have to go out of town today, and I think I am passing a Target. If I do I will drop in and check for you.

Left 4 Dead 2 comes out in November I think, no doubt the first one will take a big price cut after that.

 

Thanks a lot man,I really hope you find another one,I would really appreciate it.

may the luck be with you.

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I tried the Twin Snakes and hated it. If they were trying to introduce Nintendo gamers to the MGS series with it, they failed utterly.

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I think we may have had this discussion before, but why didn't you like it? I am assuming you liked the original and don't just dislike the game in general.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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I've never actually played any other Metal Gear Solid. I didn't like The Twin Snakes mostly because I kept dying thanks to immortal guards that you can't beat to death no matter how many times you knock them unconscious.

I was told you could find a pistol at some point, but I'd already sold the game by then.

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Ah, so your problem wasn't actually with Twin Snakes, but with MGS itself. First time I played MGS I kept dying too. Frustrating as hell, wanted to take the game out and break it. MGS definitely has a learning curve to it, but once you get going, it gets a lot easier (still challenging enough, but your not dying ever two seconds like a lot of people do during the first bit of the game) and it is downright amazing. I am sorry you didn't stick with it, once you get inside the base and get a hold of some gear, it is a lot of fun.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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My guess is you wouldn't like the PS1 Metal Gear Solid any better, Chaltab - it's much, much more difficult than The Twin Snakes, especially at the very beginning of the game.  At least you get a tranquilizer gun early on in TTS (which doesn't exist at all in the original).

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So, Nanner, how was the first episode of The Tales of Monkey Island?

I noticed that the Secret of Monkey Island remake came out the other day. $10, but that has got to be worth it to experience that game with full voice acting. I'll probably pick it up soon and check it out. Has anybody done so already?

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Well, I went a head and got the Secret of Monkey Island Special Edition for my xbox. If you are a fan of the original Monkey Island, I can say beyond a doubt that this is worth ten bucks. But, it isn't perfect... 

The good:

- Switch from original to the special edition on the fly with the click of a single button. Really cool to watch as the screen fades from the old graphics to the new (as well as the old interface) right before your eyes. Really great for comparisons. You can even switch in mid conversation. If only a certain other LFL franchise could have been shown that kind of love... eerrr, let's not get started on that!

- Full voice acting!

- Really great new interface.

- Even with the updated graphics, it remains very true to the original.

- Same ol' quirky humor just as you remember it (e.g. You are in a bar talking to a pirate with one eye, and one of your speech options is to ask him where the dart board is located).

 

The bad:

- Guybrush looks like a total retard in the SE. I am really having a hard time getting used to him.

- This is a big one NO VOICE ACTING WHEN IN CLASSIC MODE. Not sure what possessed them to do this, as I really would have loved to have played it with the original graphics while hearing the voice acting. Instead when you switch to classic mode, it also switches to text only. To me this is really a shame, and really knocks the quality of the game down a good deal. This realization really bummed me out. There is really no reason not to have included voice in both modes.

- I am also kind of disappointed there is no option to use the new interface with the classic graphics. The new interface is so much more streamlined and easy to use, especially on a console. The old style interface you are forced to use with the old graphics is really clunky with a console controller. The new interface is so smooth and perfect, I really wish I could use it while getting the visual nostalgia of the classic graphics. This along with the lack of voice in classic mode, really leave very little reason beyond curiosities sake to even play in classic mode. It is really annoying to have to go to the bottom left corner of the screen, click the "open" icon, then go to the right side of the screen where the door is located, click on it, then have to go back to the bottom right corner, click the "enter" icon, then go back to the right side of the screen to click on the door again. In the SE interface, you simply put the cursor over the door and click it twice.

- Some of the voice acting is pretty bad. Guybrush is as good as ever, but some of the other characters (the Melee Island watchman for example) really sound like they are just reading a script while putting on a silly voice. Narration is really cheesy too. The guy reading it seems to treat it as a joke, with the kind of voice you might use when reading a really corny script.

- Achievements look to be ridiculously easy. I would have liked to have seen them be a little more creative in really making you go out of your way to get these, but most of them look like they will be really easy. The worst is the achievement you get for playing in classic mode, I though perhaps you had to beat the whole game in classic mode to get it, which would have been cool, forcing people to play the game throught completely in the original to get it. Might actually fit the description of "achievement" then. But nope. Literally the first time you hit the button to switch to classic mode you are awarded the achievement. I have seen some lame achievements in my days an a 360 owner, but this one... wow... what a joke.

 

Final verdict: This game is definitely worth your money, whether you are an old MI fan who grew up with the game like I did, or someone who is really curious to try it out for the first time. This game may look a bit juvenile, but it is actually quite challenging, and contains several very un-juvenile appropriate jokes. I cannot freakin' wait until Lechuck's Revenge (one of my all time favorite games) gets this treatment (come on LucasArts! You've got to do that one!), and will be very disappointed if for some reason they don't bother with it.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Ah, I shall continue to converse with myself, with my third post in a row... I am starting to feel a little lonely in this thread.

 

I just wanted to mention that I noticed in target's weekly ad (these guys ought to start paying me for plugging them so often!) that you get a free $5 gift card with the purchase of a 1600 microsoft points card ($19.99). That brings the price down to $15 bucks for 1600 points, though of course you have to use the five dollars you save at target (still saving five bucks though, since you can use it on groceries, or anyother neccessity you'd have to buy anyway. Looks like this offer is only good through Saturday. Just thought I'd give you all the heads up. Wish I had waited a few more days to buy Monkey Island, then instead of paying $10, I'd be like paying $7.50 for it.

"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape

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Thinking about getting MI:SE - still curious about the new one tho..

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I haven't really been doing much gaming since I moved into my new house. I just haven't felt compelled to hook up my X-Box and Wii yet. I only hooked up the PS2 because my mom wanted to watch a movie.

I'm thinking about picking up Castlevania: Order of Ecclesia when I get some money, though.

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