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Unusual Sequel Trilogy Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 100

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Anakin Starkiller said:

I’ve actually already done that. I left Snoke’s voice in since that moment lands much better with three voices and I don’t see any plot holes that would create. Just because Snoke and Palpy are working together doesn’t mean Palpy can’t impersonate Snoke on occasion to manipulate Kylo.

Sounds pretty good! I think I played with it before at one point, but I’m glad the idea works. And you’re right that Palpatine still could’ve impersonated Snoke. I guess I was worried about confusing people, but him saying he trained Snoke should make it clear that Snoke was a different person.

I love the idea of the destruction of Hosnian being a mass sacrifice to resurrect Palpatine. It’s so sinister and dramatic! Reminds me of when I wrote backstory to his resurrection where he drained the life force of Ewoks and Gungans.

Maybe it’d be good if Snoke was the one to say it. That plus the line about training him would really clarify the relationship between the two (master and apprentice).

At the very least, maybe during the shot of the mysterious figure rising from the muck, we could hear Snoke say, “Darkness rises!”

I think something that would really help in regards to setting up Palpatine is having Vader’s helmet actually speak to Kylo, which would get paid off by the “every voice” line. I’m sure it’s been done several times over by now, just gotta dig up the best version.

This is one of my top desires for a ST edit. I think it would be cool if Kylo received a vision from the Vader helmet in TFA that clarified his motivation to turn to the dark side. But you also could place Kylo touching Vader’s helmet in TROS at the beginning of that film, and give him a vision there where Vader speaks to him and shows him the way to the Wayfinder.

And Sasquatch, I think it is a matter of not wanting to add more backstory to Rey’s parents when it isn’t really necessary.

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BrotherOfSasquatch said:

I’m kind of surprised both you and Rogue seem to think the scientist idea clashes with Rey Nobody. In the grand scheme of things, some clone scientist and his family would be nobody compared to legends such as the Skywalkers and the Palpatines.

The issue is that that would mean her parents were actually of a noble cause and not total drunkards who never amounted to anything. They’re still basically nobody but they’re a good nobody instead of a bad nobody. That’s the difference.

This is one of my top desires for a ST edit. I think it would be cool if Kylo received a vision from the Vader helmet in TFA that clarified his motivation to turn to the dark side. But you also could place Kylo touching Vader’s helmet in TROS at the beginning of that film, and give him a vision there where Vader speaks to him and shows him the way to the Wayfinder.

Right before Palpatine’s reveal would be too late to introduce the concept, so while you can use it there (and in fact it would be good to have as a refresher before the reveal), it’s essentially we introduce the concept much sooner when Kylo speaks to Vader’s helmet in TFA. Funnily enough, this would add another one of JJ Abrams’s beloved mystery boxes but this time it would actually have a fulfilling answer planned out.

The helmet doesn’t appear in TLJ, but you could reutilize footage from TFA or TRoS to add a scene with it. The scene in TFA has Kylo wearing his helmet meaning you could dub him to say just about anything, but it would need to occur before his meeting with Snoke since he destroys his helmet after that. The scene in TRoS just has him touching the helmet with his mask off, not saying a word, so probably not worth trying to reuse.