Underrated Sequels/Prequels — Page 5

LexX said:

ATMachine said:

Any modern adaptation really has to get rid of the racism in those old works

 Why if they're based on another time?

Is any of you actually Indian? I for one hate this sympathy racism where a bunch of white people get offended about racism and like someone here said Indians themselves laughed at the scenes in TOD and couldn't care less. There is also a difference between a race and a culture. I've seen so many American shows to know they use all the old stereotypes about every culture (Russia, Germany, Britain, The Neatherlands etc.) which would be considered very racist if the people there weren't white. I think it's a bit ridicilous that when the skin color changes, it suddenly becomes racist. I'm kind of a "make fun of us all or then about no one" type of guy.

So if a movie is "based in another time" racism is good?  I don't even know where to go with that statement. Is it just a bunch of "sympathy racism" whiteys who object to say, a movie glorifying the genocide of Native Americans, because hey, the move is set in another time? 

Making fun of a British character for being uptight and liking tea doesn't have a long history of oppression and murder. "Dark skinned backwards savages" being gunned down by heroic white colonists kinda does. I can't imagine how you don't see the difference.

Australian American Catholics portraying the English and the Jews as being the bad guys is bordering on it. I say this as a supporter of Scottish Independence...particularly from the gentleman in question.

I'm going to go ahead and say Superman III is an underrated sequel.

Yes, yes, I know -- Richard Pryor's character isn't in anyway believable as a computer genius and Robert Vaughn's character is just a carbon copy of Hackman's Luthor. The villains are dumb, plain and simple.

On the other hand, I find Annette O'Toole's Lana Lang a far better love interest than Margot Kidder's Lois, and I prefer how Clark is portrayed more as an actual human character in this film rather than as a mere disguise of Superman's like in the rest of the Chris Reeve films.

Yeah, but you're ignoring me, so how bright can you possibly be?

DuracellEnergizer said:

I'm going to go ahead and say Superman III is an underrated sequel.

Yes, yes, I know -- Richard Pryor's character isn't in anyway believable as a computer genius and Robert Vaughn's character is just a carbon copy of Hackman's Luthor. The villains are dumb, plain and simple.

On the other hand, I find Annette O'Toole's Lana Lang a far better love interest than Margot Kidder's Lois, and I prefer how Clark is portrayed more as an actual human character in this film rather than as a mere disguise of Superman's like in the rest of the Chris Reeve films.

 You're overrating that pile of garbage.

Show me how Lana's worse than Lois or how Clark being more than a bumbling farce sucked, then we'll talk.

We Hate Movies:

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SilverWook said:

Clark vs. Evil Supes in the junkyard is a great sequence in a mediocre movie though.

This scene is a distillation of what it is about Superman III that I like about it. Clark Kent -- the "mask", the "disguise" -- beats Superman -- the "true identity".

I am very much a fan of the post-Crisis Superman/Clark Kent -- where Clark Kent is who he is, Superman is what he does -- and this is the closest the live-action films have ever come to depicting that version of the character. For that -- and that alone -- I like Superman III.

I liked Lana and thought she and Clark had more chemistry then Louis and Clerk so that is in the win pile right there.  With Louis I got the idea that she put up with Clark but loved Superman. With Lana I got the idea that she liked Superman okay but Clark was the one she really enjoyed spending time with and she respected him so the relationship came off feeling a lot more real then the Louis and Superman relationship. Lana didn't feel like she was just a schoolgirl with a crush but a real adult person.

Oh and the film has the best line in movie history.

"I ask you to kill Superman and you can't even do this one simple thing."

Yeah it's an underrated movie.