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Personally I would hope that there could be a Ultimate Boxset of the OT with a lot of bonus features and deleted scenes hopefully the blu-ray release in 2007 or 2008.

New scenes and some special effects and a few changes to the OT (as long as there good) might be added to the OT. For Example "Emperor and Vader in Coruscant in the end of ANH, Fett escaping the sarlaac in ROTJ....

And of course the one i really want is the Theatrical cuts of the OT released too.

Does anyone think that Ultimate Editions should be released with some new scenes and some bad special effects fixed? and you can post some of your ideas of the movies and what you want done with them.
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I'm wondering where Vader and Palpatine would fit into at the end of ANH, as well as Fett escaping the Sarclacc, as well as the relevence each has to the story line. Oh wait, they don't....

If you want to add deleted scenes go ahead, I especially dig the Bigg scenes as it makes Bigg's death kind of weird to the uneducated viewer. But new scenes entirely? They tried it, doesn't work. AS for special effects, that I welcome. I really see nothing wrong with removing garbage mattes and black lines, as they were never intended to be there in the first place.

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Oh wait they do, Vader and Palps at the end of A New Hope disscussing the destruction of the Death Star, Victory of the Rebels and Obi-Wan survival does make it to the story line.

There's a certain individual i know that has made a script of the scene and i'll post it sometime to show u.
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Oh wait they do, Vader and Palps at the end of A New Hope disscussing the destruction of the Death Star, Victory of the Rebels and Obi-Wan survival does make it to the story line.

There's a certain individual i know that has made a script of the scene and i'll post it sometime to show u.


What will add? We already know that the Death Star has been destroyed as well as the victory of the rebels. We'd be going back to PT style story telling where everything must be spelled out for the viewer ("Look, there's the blockade!"). If you go about it that way, you could do that for just about everything. Why not add a scene at the end of ESB where Lando states that Solo has been frozen in carbonite and Luke lost his hand? Oh wait, we already know that.

And Obi-Wan's survival is kept until the beginning of ESB, let's not give this away before the movie even begins.

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the vader papls scene will add solidarity to the films its would work as a summary, of all that happened and they dont need to go over everything, i think that luke destorying the deathstar and talk about DS2 would be all that is needed. as for the fett scene its not needed in the movies. the only reason it would be added is if there was going to be 7-9 and fett was in one of them. otherwise his survival can be left to the EU.
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Personally I would hope that there could be a Ultimate Boxset of the OT with a lot of bonus features and deleted scenes hopefully the blu-ray release in 2007 or 2008.


Well, as it happens, the word on the street is that there WILL be a 30th anniversary edition released in 2007 (funny that!!) This will be a boxed set of the SIX movies each one having extra scenes added/modified. Prior to this release on 2006, there will be a box set of the prequel movies - no extra features AFAIK.

I know for certain that following discussions about Yoda in Ep1 and the success of Ep2&3, Yoda will be changed to be CG, and extra scenes that were shot around the time of EP3 will be included in the original films!! Yes, folks, yet ANOTTHER version of the SW SEs - perhaps these should be renames SW SE '07? GL will be tinkering with them forever!!!

I am hoping that they fix up the glaring mistakes that they left with the most recent releases (green lightsabre, matt lines not removed etc) and do them properly this time.

I for one are on the original trilogy bandwagon having these on VHS, LD (and soon DVD - by my own preservation archives), these originals do stand up the best! Some of the SE additions are nice, but now the films are no longer the ones I saw in 1977!

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Originally posted by: Jedikev

New scenes and some special effects and a few changes to the OT (as long as there good) might be added to the OT. For Example "Emperor and Vader in Coruscant in the end of ANH, Fett escaping the sarlaac in ROTJ....

Really, those scenes make no sense. Vader and the Emperor at the end of ANH would ruin the cliffhanger of Vader flying off into space and Fett escaping from Sarlaac is just plain stupid. If one was to follow the way it was done in the EU (which is an important fact, mind you, as George Lucas never gave much credence to the character at all), we would have to cut back to Sarlaac way way way into the rest of the movie, sometime during the Battle of Endor at the earliest, which would completely take the viewer out of the primary action.

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Yeah, and the only reason it would be necessary at all would be if Boba Fett actually had some importance to the rest of the movie, say, he shows up at Endor and kidnaps Chewbacca or something. But since we know he doesn't, there is no need to continue his character in Return of the Jedi.

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Someone has proposed that the stormtrooper who is killed by Leia (just before Han says "I love you" - "I know") be replaced with Boba and before he is shot he says something like "I have you now, Solo". I think it wouldn't be a bad idea, but it is not necessary, true.
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Really, those scenes make no sense. Vader and the Emperor at the end of ANH would ruin the cliffhanger of Vader flying off into space


RB, I REALLY hope you like what I did at the end of ANH when you get a chance to see it. I think I did a good job of handling this issue respectfully without screwing up the film itself, setting ESB to rights in the process as well.

If GL could see this maybe, just maybe, he might actually say "you know, that works a whole lot better." Not that he ever, ever, EVER admits his mistakes.

If Lucasfilm were to use half the stuff we've come up with on these boards, the general reaction to his changes would be far more positive. And if he'd just release the unmolested OT, nobody would care if he put Gungans and Ewoks into Episode IV for his Ultimate Archival Extreme Editions.
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Someone has proposed that the stormtrooper who is killed by Leia (just before Han says "I love you" - "I know") be replaced with Boba and before he is shot he says something like "I have you now, Solo". I think it wouldn't be a bad idea, but it is not necessary, true.


Please say you're joking...

But in all seriousness, would letting Boba be killed by a cheap shot like that be any better than letting him get eaten by the Sarlaac? I say we just let him blow up the Death Star, and then everyone'll be happy.

Except me. I'm never happy.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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NO CG YODA!!!

No Fett in Endor!!!
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Okay, I take that back. Everyone except me and Kev'll be happy.

We're never happy.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Lapti Nek must be back too and not to mention Shaw!!!
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Originally posted by: andij
Someone has proposed that the stormtrooper who is killed by Leia (just before Han says "I love you" - "I know") be replaced with Boba and before he is shot he says something like "I have you now, Solo". I think it wouldn't be a bad idea, but it is not necessary, true.


Please say you're joking...

But in all seriousness, would letting Boba be killed by a cheap shot like that be any better than letting him get eaten by the Sarlaac? I say we just let him blow up the Death Star, and then everyone'll be happy.

Except me. I'm never happy.




that scene would make no sense. first, maybe im just getting old and my memory is failing, but when did leia kill a Stormtrooper during that scene. Also, if fett is killed at that point, then how would han get to Jabba's palace? he wouldnt, and the beginning of ROTJ would have to be changed completely (and the Luke kicking ass as a jedi is one of my favorite parts of ROTJ)

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He means the ROTJ "I love you" scene where the stormtroopers have Han and Leia trapped against the shield generator, and Leia has a concealed blaster.

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C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
He means the ROTJ "I love you" scene where the stormtroopers have Han and Leia trapped against the shield generator, and Leia has a concealed blaster.


ahhh, my bad...i reversed who said the 'I love you' and who said 'I know' and was thinking of the Cloud City scene.

but, its still a terrible idea. It wouldnt fit in with the story/too many other changes would have to be made for it to make sense

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"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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Other DVD information learned during the presentation: There WILL be a 6-film box set of the complete Star Wars saga on disc, but not in the immediate future (meaning not this fall at least, and probably not in early 2006 either). Additional tweaks and changes will probably be made to the films by Lucas before all is said and done, but that's for Lucas to determine.
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