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Two-Face (A Batman: The Animated Series Movie) (* unfinished project *)

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I have nearly completed my first fan-edit. What I’ve done is I’ve taken the episodes “Two-Face” Part 1 and 2 and combined them into one continuous movie. The commercial break fade-outs are almost all gone, and part one runs into part two. I’m very pleased with the transitions, and it’s looking good. I may need to redo the edit due to easily remedied video quality issues, but I’ve got the basic cut, at least. As soon as it’s finished, I’m gonna burn it to a DVD-R and see how it looks on a TV.

I’m hoping to give this treatment to other two-parters in the series (“Feat of Clay” is my next target–if you’ve seen the two-parter, it’s not hard to figure out why), and maybe eventually cutting commercials out of single episodes, but the two-parters are my biggest concern.

The only problem is the credits. I’ve made new, movie-style credits combined from Parts 1 and 2, but now I’m having troubles finding appropriate music for the credits. I tried working with some Elfman music and what little of Two-Face’s theme I could cleanly glean from the 2.0 DVD mix, but it’s still too short. I do have some ideas, but I’ll need help. If anyone has the Mask of the Phantasm soundtrack, I need track 1, and the next to last track, “Batman’s Destiny,” in high-quality mp3 or wav.

Now, supposedly, no bootleg soundtracks exist for the series, but I heard from a guy on JWFan that he actually saw a few for $40 or so at a comics convention or something. If anyone has any of them and they have any music from the Two-Face episodes, I could really stand a copy.

Also, if anyone with experience would be interested in making menus and cover art (for cases and discs), that would be awesome.

So if anyone has any of those things, send me a PM.

Thanks!

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Sounds like a cool idea.

If you're a demonoid person there's currently a large torrent with a number of Batman soundtracks including a few for the animated series. You might want to take a look. If you're not a member just email me at klokwerk[at]gmail[dot]com and I'll try to invite you.

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^It doesn't include any episodic score material though, unfortunately. (Other than some crummy rips of opening and closing credits.)

It does have Mask of the Phantasm and Subzero, however.
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Yeah. I'll dig out my spindle of score music Mp3s and see if I have any other Batman:TAS stuff. The Mask of the Phantasm and SubZero OSTs are worth getting though if you don't have them.

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Thanks for that information, Uncanny Antman. I was wondering how much there was. In a thread on Soundtrack Collector somebody showed tracks for a few bootlegs. There seemed to be music from Joker's Favor (w00t!), Heart of Ice (w00t!), and Feat of Clay (w00t!), among others. I don't have a clue how to get to them, though. It would seem that while a few boots exist, they are EXTREMELY rare, to the point of many thinking they don't exist.

As far as demonoid goes, well...I'm at the mercy of my Mom on that one. She wants to check it out before downloading anything. If that's a no-go, then I may be able to find someone at the JWFan trading board who has the stuff. Here's hoping.

Let me know what you have, klokwerk. Thanks for your help! Yeah, MOTP and Subzero are definitely worth just listening--and I am incredibly excited to find out that there is indeed a Subzero soundtrack!




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Originally posted by: musicman
Yeah, MOTP and Subzero are definitely worth just listening--and I am incredibly excited to find out that there is indeed a Subzero soundtrack!


If you want these m8, I am just grabbing them now.

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Thanks for that information, Uncanny Antman. I was wondering how much there was. In a thread on Soundtrack Collector somebody showed tracks for a few bootlegs. There seemed to be music from Joker's Favor (w00t!), Heart of Ice (w00t!), and Feat of Clay (w00t!), among others. I don't have a clue how to get to them, though. It would seem that while a few boots exist, they are EXTREMELY rare, to the point of many thinking they don't exist.

As far as demonoid goes, well...I'm at the mercy of my Mom on that one. She wants to check it out before downloading anything. If that's a no-go, then I may be able to find someone at the JWFan trading board who has the stuff. Here's hoping.

Let me know what you have, klokwerk. Thanks for your help! Yeah, MOTP and Subzero are definitely worth just listening--and I am incredibly excited to find out that there is indeed a Subzero soundtrack!


Have you heard these soundtracks yet? Sometimes, these bootleg soundtracks, especially those at comics conventions, can be very flaky rips, with some sound effects and dialouge in the sound effects included,w hich would make it useless for your edit. I would be more likely to trust the demonoid torrent (plus its free and easy to get) than trying to find the guy at some comic convention with a bootleg CD for $40. Its easy to get burned by these guys.
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Originally posted by: calisto
Originally posted by: musicman
Yeah, MOTP and Subzero are definitely worth just listening--and I am incredibly excited to find out that there is indeed a Subzero soundtrack!


If you want these m8, I am just grabbing them now.


Yes, that would be excellent!! Thanks so much! Send me a PM with the details, and we'll work it out.


And, no, Number20, I haven't heard them (unfortunately). I only know that a guy saw them. That would definitely be a burn. I'll see what's in the set that calisto's getting. MOTP and Subzero alone should be a big help, but if there's more TAS material--all the better!

Interestingly enough, I was working on a score set where I would do my best to edit around the dialogue and minimize sound effects. I finished a rough version for disc one of Volume One, but now I can't find it. I'll redo it sometime in the near future.
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And replied to. Thanks!

I'm re-encoding Two-Face at top quality (which I hadn't before) and I'm going to re-edit them, and then hopefully around the time I've finished the edit I'll have the music in and I'll be able to finish it.

Now, the DVDs will just be straight-up, stick the DVD in the player, watch it, and you're done; I don't have DVD Lab Pro or anything. Does anyone have any recommendations for what kind of DVD-Rs to use? My Dad has a bunch of Memorex DVD-Rs that he's using for church and let me try to burn the first version on, but when I tried to play it in the player, it said something about "Disc Error--Playback function may not be set" or something like that. He said that Memorex DVD-Rs don't always work the best on a lot of non-PC players. I'll probably give it another shot, but if it's not working, are there any other brands anyone is successfully using?
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I'm still waiting on the credits music, but I had a new thought. Should I cut the Batman theme opening? I'm thinking of taking the WB logo from the fullscreen side of the Mask of the Phantasm DVD and placing that at the beginning. A second or two of silence, and then fade into the title card. I'm thinking, while it would be better to have a true, full main titles, this would still be more movie-like than having the series intro on every one that I make. What do you guys think?
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Originally posted by: musicman
I'm still waiting on the credits music,



Sorry been really busy with work, will get them out to you this week

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Hey, that's cool man. I hope I didn't sound impatient there. Thanks.

I'm now actually considering taking the Two-Face title card, and then from there copying frames that don't have text on them, and making new titles over it. Does that sound like a good idea? Does anyone have experience with efficiently copying a few frames and looping them into a given amount of time? Is there a program that does that? Are you guys getting tired of questions? Tune in next week: same Bat-time, same Bat-channel!
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Okay, cool.

I'm getting close to finalizing everything. I know what I want to do for the opening credits for sure now. I just need one more thing besides the soundtracks: Does anyone have any idea what some of the Batman Animated fonts are? I'm thinking particularly of the style used in the Mask of the Phantasm opening credits, as well as the original "Two-Face" opening credits. I will search, but if anyone knows or has any leads, that would be a great timesaver. Thanks!
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If you can post screencaps of those two things (the Two Face title card and the MOTP credits) I can maybe get them identified.

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Dude, I'm a big fan of Batman: The Animated Series and I love what you're doing here.
The Mask of The Phantasm font is called Gotham Nights and should be pretty easy to come by.
As for the other font I dunno.
I could also help out with some cover art for this if needed, just let me know.

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Thanks guys. I found Gotham Nights. I'm pretty sure I'll use it for the end credits. I'll post a screencap as soon as I can for the Two-Face font for reference, klokwerk and Killbot. Cover art would be fantastic! I don't have any specs like running time yet or anything, but hopefully all should be finished within the next few days. In the meantime, if you want to work on the design, that would be awesome.

A big thanks to calisto! I'm loving the set, man!

If anyone already has an image or copy of the text-free "Two-Face" title card, or if you've erased the titles out for a frame or can do so easily, please let me know. If not I'll do it myself, but if someone else has it, it would be a big help. Beyond that, all I'll need to do is get my Mask of the Phantasm DVD back from my cousin for the opening logo, and I should have everything I'll need.

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I'm no expert but that Two-Face title card font looks quite a bit like "Steelfish," the same lettering used for the credit blocks on a lot of movie posters and DVD covers.

Anyway I'm psyched to see this, I would really like to experience the story without the fade out/fade ins, closing credits, opening credits and previous episode re-caps to distract me.

Any plans to keep going on this? There are six more two-part episodes of Batman, not to mention five Supermans and the first two seasons of Justice League!

I have actually been thinking about something like this for a while now, as I have been learning quite a bit in Aftereffects. I want to try painting out those cheekbone lines on Superman's face in the first two seasons of JL- the ones he didn't have on Superman: TAS and no longer has on JLU.

There may be a few other continuity fixes somewhere in there, too, for instance the Batman Beyond-era batcave backgrounds used in "Starcrossed" create some questions.

I've also toyed with the idea of trying to insert Robin and Batgirl into that big group shot from the first episode of JLU. I'm still pissed they never got to be on the show.

Anyway I'm sure most of this will remain my personal pipe dream, but hey.
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Cool, I'll look into that.

Yeah, I definitely want to do at least the Batman:TAS two-parters. The others will be tougher because they did away with the wonderful title cards, instead leaving us with text over the opening shots. I've heard it's possible to believably paint out credits, but I don't know how to do it. I'm very interested in your ideas, also! I'm curious as to what you can do with Photoshop.

Now, you should beware, this will probably be a bit rough at first. This is a learning experience for me, and the video quality might not be up to par, and there might be some things I would do differently as far as DVD authoring if I had more experience. There is a good probability I will redo this at some point down the road, but I don't know when. I think this will turn out watchable at the worst, though. It'll be pretty cool.

Now, I don't have Volume 3 or 4 yet, so refresh my memory: is Grace in "Second Chance"? I looked around, and sadly, she wasn't listed. If she was in it, I may have put this off, or in my redo I might have worked in Second Chance, but if she's not there, then it would be really distracting. "Two-Face, Part Two" has a great ending, though. Very suitable for the movie-style I'm going for. I've thought about the possibility of working in elements of or entire episodes into these projects, given the interrelated elements of the series and recurring characters--Stromwell's appearances in both "Robin's Reckoning" and "It's Never Too Late," for instance. Another thought I had was perhaps instead of putting just both parts of "The Cat and the Claw" together, also having "Cat Scratch Fever" in the edit, since it's a direct sequel to it. However, it could be kind of anticlimactic after the events of "The Cat and the Claw," unless I could work something out with other Catwoman footage. Those are just some examples. Interesting things to think about.

One last thing: does anyone know if it's possible to blend titles in Womble? As in, having one title fade out as another fades in? I've been trying, but haven't been able to get it to work.

Thanks!
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Originally posted by: musicman

A big thanks to calisto! I'm loving the set, man!


Pleased to have had helped & really looking forward to seeing this!