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Tupac, whats the big deal
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
It's the martyr effect. Because he was murdered he becomes a saint in the eyes of people who otherwise might only have had a passing interest in his music.
It's the martyr effect. Because he was murdered he becomes a saint in the eyes of people who otherwise might only have had a passing interest in his music.
Sorta like Dimebag Darrell of Pantera.
Only difference is people idolized him while he was still alive anyway, and for good reason.
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Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
Well what about Kurt Cobain? Nirvana rocked, but no one really idolizes him.
Well what about Kurt Cobain? Nirvana rocked, but no one really idolizes him.
MY OLD BEST FRIEND DID.
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Sorta like Dimebag Darrell of Pantera.
Only difference is people idolized him while he was still alive anyway, and for good reason.
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
It's the martyr effect. Because he was murdered he becomes a saint in the eyes of people who otherwise might only have had a passing interest in his music.
It's the martyr effect. Because he was murdered he becomes a saint in the eyes of people who otherwise might only have had a passing interest in his music.
Sorta like Dimebag Darrell of Pantera.
Only difference is people idolized him while he was still alive anyway, and for good reason.
DIMEBAG WAS A FRIEND OF MINE.
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
But still you can't compare him to John Lennon or Elvis (They have equal fame IMHO). There both rock gods. Plus Lennon fans don't get angry when you call him stupid.
But still you can't compare him to John Lennon or Elvis (They have equal fame IMHO). There both rock gods. Plus Lennon fans don't get angry when you call him stupid.
Good. Lennon is stupid
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Good question. I guess it's because rap really does rot the brain, or something. Eh, I don't mean this in a racist way, but you know how some people are. They freak out if you say something negative about a black person and call you a racist, even if your comment wasn't so in the least.
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Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
Well what about Kurt Cobain? Nirvana rocked, but no one really idolizes him.
Well what about Kurt Cobain? Nirvana rocked, but no one really idolizes him.
Nirvana became internationally famous in 1992. Cobain died two years later. If he'd been around 5 more years or so, and had a couple more albums out, I think he'd qualify as a Lennon or Elvis.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
It's the martyr effect. Because he was murdered he becomes a saint in the eyes of people who otherwise might only have had a passing interest in his music.
It's the martyr effect. Because he was murdered he becomes a saint in the eyes of people who otherwise might only have had a passing interest in his music.
Sounds about right.
Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
DIMEBAG WAS A FRIEND OF MINE.
Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Sorta like Dimebag Darrell of Pantera.
Only difference is people idolized him while he was still alive anyway, and for good reason.
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
It's the martyr effect. Because he was murdered he becomes a saint in the eyes of people who otherwise might only have had a passing interest in his music.
It's the martyr effect. Because he was murdered he becomes a saint in the eyes of people who otherwise might only have had a passing interest in his music.
Sorta like Dimebag Darrell of Pantera.
Only difference is people idolized him while he was still alive anyway, and for good reason.
DIMEBAG WAS A FRIEND OF MINE.
You lucky bastard. Wish I could've met him. He's my hero.
Well, one of them.
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Tupac can't even mesure up to Vinilla Ice who is still alive and was alive when he was famous.
Tupac can't even mesure up to Vinilla Ice who is still alive and was alive when he was famous.
tupac was an engima, he was famous and is idolised because of his work, almost every single one of his songs had more mean when reading between the lines and people respected his for that, he was one of the first true political rapper, and tried his hardest to describe the getto to the general population. so many of his songs were just heart touching, when you pay attention to the lyrics. you want some examples, listen to songs like 'life goes on', or 'all eyes on me'. changes is also a great song. in my experience most people that dislike tupac cant relate to his music and thus can understand why he is considered great. vinilla ice was a peice of shit i can beleive you would even compare the shit that guy spat out to tupac stuff.
as for how tupac is still releasign stuff. thats all cutting board stuff. people dont release that most of the time rappers will go into the studio and free style away till they find something they like, and use that as there song. there is so much stuff that tupac made that wasnt released and thats why its still coming out every now and then. i think on one of his records eminem set a record by recording an entire album in 12 hours.
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Originally posted by: Zion
Nirvana became internationally famous in 1992. Cobain died two years later. If he'd been around 5 more years or so, and had a couple more albums out, I think he'd qualify as a Lennon or Elvis.
Originally posted by: Jagdlieter
Well what about Kurt Cobain? Nirvana rocked, but no one really idolizes him.
Well what about Kurt Cobain? Nirvana rocked, but no one really idolizes him.
Nirvana became internationally famous in 1992. Cobain died two years later. If he'd been around 5 more years or so, and had a couple more albums out, I think he'd qualify as a Lennon or Elvis.
exactly...the tragedy of Kurt Cobain is the lost potential...he was a good songwriter & was getting better
the impact of his suicide was not so much the loss of what was, but what could have been
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Tupac was a dunce... his "music" (a.k.a. expensive karaoke) is and always was terrible (although a few were catchy, probably from the loops he stole from other musicians) and his fans are all knuckleheads. All of them.
Kurt Cobain was idolized before and after his death. His suicide was the healthiest thing to have happened to his career as far as his legacy is concerned. Grunge was on the way out, Cobain's buckshot or not, and he knocked himself off as the rollercoaster paused at the top of the track. He would have released terrible albums, no doubt about it.... Look at Pearl Jam. If Eddie Vetter had hung himself from some rafters the day after Cobain put lead through his head they'd both be remembered as angels. I loved Nrivana back in the day, and I still listen to them occasionally... but Coabin bled that scene dry.
Elvis is overrated. Way, way overrated. He was the Eminem (and this is coming from someone who thinks Eminem is a walking ball of douche who gets paid to create unlistenable douche noise) of 50's and 60's Rock and Roll. He repackaged an existing flavor of music for an audience with lots and lots of money, and he's remembered as some musical prodigy. If he continued to live any longer during his fat, drug-addicted slob period he would have begun to taint his legacy. For Elvis fans it's probably best that he died when he did, although sooner would have been better I suppose.
