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Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
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Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
Originally posted by: ferris209
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
Well, if you pay to get the internet, you ought to get the internet. I guess its from years of having unlimited internet, but I just can't fathom having a limit set on my downloading ability. I agree I don't this will last, especially once all the major studios and music companies start greasing hands because they do want folks to download their stuff and if it starts getting capped, they could stand to lose some money.
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Originally posted by: ferris209
Well, if you pay to get the internet, you ought to get the internet. I guess its from years of having unlimited internet, but I just can't fathom having a limit set on my downloading ability. I agree I don't this will last, especially once all the major studios and music companies start greasing hands because they do want folks to download their stuff and if it starts getting capped, they could stand to lose some money.
Originally posted by: lordjedi
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
Originally posted by: ferris209
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
Well, if you pay to get the internet, you ought to get the internet. I guess its from years of having unlimited internet, but I just can't fathom having a limit set on my downloading ability. I agree I don't this will last, especially once all the major studios and music companies start greasing hands because they do want folks to download their stuff and if it starts getting capped, they could stand to lose some money.
Actually, I'm betting that at least the movie studios will love this, especially if they end up getting a cut. Not only will you be limited in what you can download now, but you'll have to pay more if you want to go over that limit. Music wouldn't have much of an effect on your total bandwidth since most of the files are pretty small. But a season of the Sopranos (HBO just introduced web downloads of their tv shows) would cost you quite a bit of bandwidth. With this in place, people won't be able to just download gobs and gobs of TV shows and movies without paying someone for it somewhere.
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Actually, I'm betting that at least the movie studios will love this, especially if they end up getting a cut. Not only will you be limited in what you can download now, but you'll have to pay more if you want to go over that limit. Music wouldn't have much of an effect on your total bandwidth since most of the files are pretty small. But a season of the Sopranos (HBO just introduced web downloads of their tv shows) would cost you quite a bit of bandwidth. With this in place, people won't be able to just download gobs and gobs of TV shows and movies without paying someone for it somewhere.
Originally posted by: ferris209
Well, if you pay to get the internet, you ought to get the internet. I guess its from years of having unlimited internet, but I just can't fathom having a limit set on my downloading ability. I agree I don't this will last, especially once all the major studios and music companies start greasing hands because they do want folks to download their stuff and if it starts getting capped, they could stand to lose some money.
Originally posted by: lordjedi
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
Originally posted by: ferris209
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
Well, if you pay to get the internet, you ought to get the internet. I guess its from years of having unlimited internet, but I just can't fathom having a limit set on my downloading ability. I agree I don't this will last, especially once all the major studios and music companies start greasing hands because they do want folks to download their stuff and if it starts getting capped, they could stand to lose some money.
Actually, I'm betting that at least the movie studios will love this, especially if they end up getting a cut. Not only will you be limited in what you can download now, but you'll have to pay more if you want to go over that limit. Music wouldn't have much of an effect on your total bandwidth since most of the files are pretty small. But a season of the Sopranos (HBO just introduced web downloads of their tv shows) would cost you quite a bit of bandwidth. With this in place, people won't be able to just download gobs and gobs of TV shows and movies without paying someone for it somewhere.
Yeah, but with Microsoft pushing the HD downloads on the Xbox and Amazon really starting to focus on the Unboxed Video service they have, along with Apple's itunes movie service, it would only seem to me that they could stand to lose since folks would be limited on what they could download.
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I don't have a problem with this, actually. It keeps the ISPs from outselling their bandwidth, and will keep congestion in check until next-gen internet comes along.
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Gauging from the replies in that blog entry, I think this will backfire on them.
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worst company ever. dial up service in 2008, lol!
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Hyde: Fezzy, man, it's Star Wars.
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Originally posted by: skyjedi2005
anybody who has time warner aol should quit as soon as they can.
worst company ever. dial up service in 2008, lol!
anybody who has time warner aol should quit as soon as they can.
worst company ever. dial up service in 2008, lol!
Time Warner has distanced itself from AOL for a long time. Time Warner also happens to be one of the better broadband companies around. Unlike Comcast, Time Warner isn't blocking bittorrent traffic.
From what I've read, this is something they're going to introduce in one market as a test. More than likely, they'll receive hundreds of complaints from people and they'll be forced to increase capacity rather than try to bill high usage users high rates.
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Originally posted by: sean wookie
Does this have anything to do with net neutrality?
Does this have anything to do with net neutrality?
I don't think so. So far as I know, NN is more about ISP's using control of "the last mile" to give preferential treatment to certain apps and content. This sounds more like a pay as you go type scheme.
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Originally posted by: lordjedi
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
Originally posted by: ferris209
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
MY BANDWIDTH IS UNLIMITED ON MY PLAN.
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
MY BANDWIDTH IS UNLIMITED ON MY PLAN.
Originally posted by: lordjedi
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
Originally posted by: ferris209
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Your link ain't working, you got http: twice.
Anyhow, I heard about this and it ought to be outlawed. It is ridiculous.
Why is it ridiculous? I don't like it either, but it's no different from what the hosting companies do right now. You don't get free, unlimited bandwidth on a webhost. You pay for a certain amount each month and if you go over, you're billed for it.
I'm betting this won't last long anyway. With Verizon rolling out FiOS and Wireless ISPs becoming more prevalent, people will just switch to something that has no limits. Once they do that, TW will just remove the tiered packaging.
As the article says, at least they're being fully open about what they're doing and offering different packages. A lot of ISPs simply cap the bandwidth and don't tell you where the cap is at. You pretty much have to figure it out yourself based on when they slow you down.
MY BANDWIDTH IS UNLIMITED ON MY PLAN.
Yeah, that might be what they told you and what they advertised, but that's not what the TOS says. You can argue about it all day, but it's not going to get you anything but disconnected. "Unlimited" except that you can't run a server and if you start impacting other users ability to surf they'll disconnect your ass. Unlimited is not unlimited in the ISPs eyes. Unlimited is "use it as much as you want until it starts impacting service to other people".
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"I'VE GROWN TIRED OF ASKING, SO THIS WILL BE THE LAST TIME..."
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
ACTUALLY, I CAN RUN A SERVER WITH MY PLAN.
ACTUALLY, I CAN RUN A SERVER WITH MY PLAN.
Sounds like you have business class Internet then, not regular home user Internet (I haven't heard of a single ISP that provides standard home user access that allows you to run a server). In which case, this won't affect you at all. These "tiered plans" are more than likely only going to effect the home user plans, not the business class plans.
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Originally posted by: PSYCHO_DAYV
I HAVE THE TOP LEVEL HOME PLAN.
I HAVE THE TOP LEVEL HOME PLAN.
So what service are you with and what do you pay, if you don't mind me asking?
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But seriously, all that means is that 1) they don't do regular scans of their network and 2) they're not blocking the ports. Any ISP of significant size (like TW and Comcast) already does both.
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