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Thoughts on One Canon?

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I personally don’t like the idea. I think that Canon and Legends should stay separate. If someone wants to create a head-canon in which he mixes some Canon stories and some Legends stories, then that’s fine, but to take the two universes as a whole and try to merge them is a bad idea, in my opinion.

“Sometimes we must let go of our pride, and do what is requested to us.”
–Anakin Skywalker, Star Wars Episode II - Attack of the Clones

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It’s a pretty cool idea in theory but I don’t find the timeline very impressive

There’s an old saying in Tennessee, I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee, that says “Fool me once, shame on- shame on you… fool me can’t get fooled again.”

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I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to just consider anything you like canon and anything you don’t like noncanon.

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lol that it came down to “somehow, Chewbacca returned”

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Vladius said:

I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to just consider anything you like canon and anything you don’t like noncanon.

Well, that works for Dave Filoni, who’ll even make his own changes in making previous parts of content “canon”!

Seriously, your own “head-canon” is probably more consistent than Lucasfilm’s canon, and why let Lucasfilm or anyone else tell you what is “canon” or not?

“Don’t tell anyone… but when ‘Star Wars’ first came out, I didn’t know where it was going either. The trick is to pretend you’ve planned the whole thing out in advance. Throw in some father issues and references to other stories - let’s call them homages - and you’ve got a series.” - George Lucas

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Sideburns of BoShek said:

Vladius said:

I don’t know why it’s so hard for people to just consider anything you like canon and anything you don’t like noncanon.

Seriously, your own “head-canon” is probably more consistent than Lucasfilm’s canon, and why let Lucasfilm or anyone else tell you what is “canon” or not?

I think a growing number of people are coming around to that way of thinking on longer-running franchises, but especially for Star Wars, where they even ignore the aims and “rules” of their own canon.

Hadrian sunrider said:

Amazingly fun for RPGs

That is a good point! 😃 A lot more fun and possibilities too.

“In the future it will become even easier for old negatives to become lost and be “replaced” by new altered negatives. This would be a great loss to our society. Our cultural history must not be allowed to be rewritten.” - George Lucas

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timdiggerm said:

The real question is: why does anyone care about having a consistent canon?

I’m inclined to blame the modernist understanding of truth.

“The Anarchists are right in everything; in the negation of the existing order and in the assertion that, without Authority there could not be worse violence than that of Authority under existing conditions. They are mistaken only in thinking that anarchy can be instituted by a violent revolution… There can be only one permanent revolution — a moral one: the regeneration of the inner man. How is this revolution to take place? Nobody knows how it will take place in humanity, but every man feels it clearly in himself. And yet in our world everybody thinks of changing humanity, and nobody thinks of changing himself.”

― Leo Tolstoy

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timdiggerm said:

The real question is: why does anyone care about having a consistent canon?

It gives a world a feeling of realism and depth when you can look at any one part of it and think of it as part of a larger whole. Information you get from one part can be applied to another part and vice versa. For example when you watch the movies and see Palpatine and Vader doing Sith stuff, you can fully appreciate that they’re part of a 5000 year tradition and a 1000 year plan within that tradition. You can play a video game, watch a movie, read a comic book, and it all “counts.”

When it works it’s really cool. The issue is that when massive duds come up, the people making the whole project have to consider them canon to stay consistent.

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Disney wanted all one canon. Just so you had to buy every comic, book, video game and watch every show. Its cross merchandising. Its like when Lucas didn’t show the clone wars on the movies and expected you to buy into all the other ancillary material to know about them. Its cynical and driven by profit. Not so good for story, but great for corporate driven interests.

A consistent canon is only possible through editing and retcons. Like in Tolkien for instance.

There is another kind of internal consistency though like the rules of the universe can’t be broken like you can’t Hyperspace skip, can’t lightpeed a ship into another, and can’t lightspeed through shields or go to lightspeed in a planets gravity well. You can’t teleport objects, force heal like a videogame. You can be a Jedi if you have the aptitude and apply yourself and you don’t need midichlorians.

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The EU had massive editing and retcons but I would argue they were very good at it. They usually took it as an opportunity to introduce something even more interesting.