I think it was supposed to be implying that the Ewoks just knocked them down and the finsihed them off violently off screen. It was a PG movie after all. But the fact that it isn't show does strain credulity a bit.
As for the Excecutor crashing into the Death Star, I've alwasy figured the flames are coming from the masssive amount of air that would be released when the Death Star's hull was torn open. The vacuum effect would mean that all of that super-heated air would rush out into space. I'm no physics major, but... is it at all plausible this could result in fire?
I just wish they'd tilted the shot so you'd think more like like it's crashing into the DS2 instead of falling onto (which it wouldn't do) it (which it wouldn't do). But it's has to be played down for the little kids cuz they don't understand space and it's physics well.
BTW, I'm not saying they intended to make the shot look like it's falling, it's just seems to have turned out like that because of the angle.
Unfortunately there would be no fire. Such decompression would cool the air so much that there would be no opportunity for flame. But I can still watch that bit. It's no worse than sound in space anyway.
Originally posted by: bindibadgi I have to say I can accept a rock to the ankle killing a stormie much more easily than I can believe stormies killing almost all the Jedi in the space of, what, half an hour maybe?
Touché’
Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab I think it was supposed to be implying that the Ewoks just knocked them down and the finsihed them off violently off screen. It was a PG movie after all. But the fact that it isn't show does strain credulity a bit.
As for the Executor crashing into the Death Star, I've alwasy figured the flames are coming from the masssive amount of air that would be released when the Death Star's hull was torn open. The vacuum effect would mean that all of that super-heated air would rush out into space. I'm no physics major, but... is it at all plausible this could result in fire?
I’m not a scientist myself so I couldn’t answer that accurately. I do know that NASA has conducted some experiments with fire in microgravity. Here’s a quote from one such experiment using a normal candle:
“On Earth, gravity-driven buoyant convection causes a candle flame to be teardrop-shaped and carries soot to the flame's tip, making it yellow. In microgravity, where convective flows are absent, the flame is spherical, soot-free, and blue”
Different gases and different combustibles have varying effects on the shape and color of fire here on Earth so it would be hard to figure out what a flame would look like if it was forced into space by a venting atmosphere. How quickly would the oxygen dissipate as it left the DS2? That would also influence the size, shape and duration of the flame. Then we need to figure out what type of gravity the DS2 had (both natural and artificial) and the impact that would have on the flames. There are many variations at work, but I think it’s safe to say that the explosion would not look like a blowtorch shooting flames around a model and that’s what we saw in ROTJ.
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Originally posted by: garethxxgod I've never felt horrified by that scene although to be objective, I can't honestly remember my feelings as a young child when I first saw Empire. I remember my folks put that Empire was one of my favourite films growing up. I'm assuming though that if I felt anything it was awe.
I was in awe od Vader as well, but that never stopped me from realizing that he was the bad guy. Its not supposed to be pleasant to think of an evil man as our hero's father. It wasn't for me anyways. Darth Vader is an awesome villain, not just some random dude who disagrees with the main characters.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab I think it was supposed to be implying that the Ewoks just knocked them down and the finsihed them off violently off screen. It was a PG movie after all. But the fact that it isn't show does strain credulity a bit.
Some of the rocks were pretty heavy, and didn't they practically bury some stormtroopers with them? That might hurt a bit more. But yes, I also thought they had Ewoks run them through with spears, arrows, etc...
As for my biggest "take you out of the moment" moment, it would have to be Jabba the Hutt in the SE. Ignoring the badly done CGI, this scene is uses most of the exact same dialouge of the Greedo scene earlier, and it shows a very stupid and easly fooled Jabba. Why would Jabba be out collecting his debts himself with all the thugs he has? And he lets Han walk on his tail? If Han talks his way out of trouble with Jabba that easly, why did he worry about him at all? This is clearly not the vile Jabba in ROTJ.
I just thought of another. The sail barge scene stretches credulity a little bit. I mean, Luke goes medieval on all those lackeys, yet there is no visible damage... ever! It's like he's whacking people with a police officer's nightstick. They get hit, are pushed, and fall. Apparently Luke didn't construct his new lightsaber too well because it can't even cut through flesh!
There is no lingerie in space…
C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.
Of course the entire sky-car sequence in AOTC seems to be a rip-off of the sequence in The Fifth Element. I could forgive that, but George took it a little too far over the top for my tastes.
The part of Anakin jumping from ship to ship was ripped off.., I mean an homage to an episode of Flash Gordon.
I'm always taken out of the moment when: In Jedi, Greedo's dialogue to Han Solo is heard in Jabba's palace The Rebels are actually captured by Ewoks. It is one thing to put up with those stupid little fur-balls, but to actually let them tie you up and almost barbeque your friends? Not gonna happen.
I always get bugged when there is a situation where the Jedi ought to be using the force to escape (like the restraints on Geonosis), but they end up doing everything the hard way.
