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You guys are funny.
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Originally posted by: Rob
Zing...Man you're quick. Why don't you and Go-Mer-Tonic go back to your home on a-hole island.


If I'm a dick for thinking that fanboys editing other people's work is revolting, then so be it.

And Go-mer, I see your point, but fan edits are the height of fanboy hubris... its no different than painting over someone else's canvas.

It's a cowardly attempt by a wannabe filmmaker to squeeze a drop of creativity into their own unimaginative lives. All while distorting the work of someone who actually had the balls to make something of their own.

"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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Originally posted by: Stinky-Dinkins
They actually live on Sulu island.


Oh my!

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" I was banned for a lenghty duration for saying that this is the best the O-OT has ever looked on home video to date."

LOL...you are such a big crybaby. Even the gusher mods like TwilekJedi have gotten tired of your "love" for Lucas and his film-making decisions.

It's gotten very, very old, Gomer. Give it a rest.

"but thinking differently and being obnoxious aren't mutually exclusive. Purposely posting inflammatory comments falls under the very definition of "annoying." If you're unable to recognize why your original post was a trollish attempt to annoy people then maybe one of the two gerbils that spins the two tiny wheels in your head has fallen asleep."

Attaboy, Stinky.

And Randy, what kind of balls did you think you were going to grow posting by posting here?

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: MeBeJedi

And Randy, what kind of balls did you think you were going to grow posting by posting here?


You should just hang it up, man.... your attempts to flame me just come off as lame and boring.

"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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I agree it's pretty arrogant, but we all have our own point of view when it comes to taste.

If I thought I could re-edit Blues Brothers 2000 into something I could watch, I might be tempted.
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Rob
Zing...Man you're quick. Why don't you and Go-Mer-Tonic go back to your home on a-hole island.

If I'm a dick for thinking that fanboys editing other people's work is revolting, then so be it.

And Go-mer, I see your point, but fan edits are the height of fanboy hubris... its no different than painting over someone else's canvas.

It's a cowardly attempt by a wannabe filmmaker to squeeze a drop of creativity into their own unimaginative lives. All while distorting the work of someone who actually had the balls to make something of their own.


Kind of like what Lucas did to the work of Marquad, Kershner, Kurtz, and millions of craftsmen when he made the SEs, right before claiming that the originals "don't exist" and then releasing them with a substandard transfer? If he, a multibillion, can do it to the mainstream, what's wrong with fans sharing something with each other? I have the balls to make something of my own. Just not the money. I've never made or seen a fan edit, I'm just making a point.

According to Lucas, the original negatives of the O-OT were permanantley altered when he created the SE version, and all the prints they have left of the O-OT are in poor quality.


There are numeours places, on this website and others, which prove that that statement is false. Even if it is true, there are still ways that the OOT could be restored. Lucas just won't let it happen.

“What Orwell feared were those who would ban books. What Huxley feared was that there would be no reason to ban a book, for there would be no one who wanted to read one.”

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Exactly Mike O, if the faneditors are a-holes, Lucas is the ultimate a-hole. These "Gay for Lucas" types completely disregard the actors, technicians, etc, etc.,etc. If it is wrong for a fan to edit out a sound or garbage matte, it is downright inexcusable to remove Robert Shaw from the film. The "Gay for Lucas" crowd gives him a pass that they would give no other filmmaker.

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Originally posted by: JediRandy

If I'm a dick for thinking that fanboys editing other people's work is revolting, then so be it.

I don't think it makes you a dick, but I'm pretty sure it makes you pathetic. Honestly, what a waste of an investment of care. There are plenty of other causes elsewhere on the internet, you should start searching for one more worthwhile.

Originally posted by: JediRandy
its no different than painting over someone else's canvas.


Did the rocks inside your head rattle around as you posted this? They're nothing alike.

An artist's canvas is a one of a kind item, a completely unique work or art - only one exists. Breaking into SkyWalker ranch, stealing the original Star Wars masters and altering them is no different than painting over someone else's original work of art perhaps, but why bother when Lucas is clearly busy doing just that? Fan edits are like taking a photocopy or reproduction of a work of art after seeing horrible alterations done to the original canvas, and then caringly cleaning the reproduction so that it resembles the long lost work of art the world initially fell in love with.

If Da Vinci, on his death bed, had painted over Mona Lisa's smile, painted a jester's cap on top of her head, and drew ridiculous, fluffy eyebrows on her forehead would you really begrudge another artist for trying to recreate the original masterpiece on a separate canvas? It has nothing to do with altering the original canvas - it has long since been altered by its creator. It's about wanting to look at the original art again.

Trying to reproduce the Original Trilogy in high quality has nothing to do with spiting Lucas or his "personal art" - it's a tribute to his original work. A reflection of the image that originally appeared on the canvas.

Originally posted by: JediRandyIt's a cowardly attempt by a wannabe filmmaker to squeeze a drop of creativity into their own unimaginative lives.



You're like an actual talking ass. A "cowardly" attempt? Honestly, you sound like such a silly cunt. Get over yourself.

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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
According to Lucas, the original negatives of the O-OT were permanantley altered when he created the SE version, and all the prints they have left of the O-OT are in poor quality.

Actually what they did give us is substantially better than a laserdisc rip. I am sure you know they went to the laserdisc master for their O-OT transfer.

I do agree it would be better if it had been anamorphic but at least Lucas did release it on DVD.

Personally I think this is the best the O-OT has looked on home video so far, not counting the 2004 SE version.

I did see one of the Phantom Edits, but I didn't think it was all that good. It was the one that didn't alter Jar-Jar's dialogue. For some reason they cut out some of the more important scenes, and left in some of the more annoying bits with Jar-Jar.

Personally I loved Jar-Jar, but I figured the first priority for making a fan edit like this was to get rid of as much Jar-Jar stuff as possible.

I don't think that was the Magnoliafan edit though.


It sounds like you saw the Phantom Edit, but it could be another one, I don't keep up with every edit out there. lol
The MagnoliaFan edit had Jar Jar and all gungans, and the neimodian's dialouge changed to alien language, then subtitled them differently to change dialouge. As a result, some plot points were changed or modified. The neimodians are a bit less wimpy, and there is given a reason why the gungans and the people of Naboo don't like each other, among other things. I thought it was a good edit, and even made Jar-Jar less annoying. It wasn't just a FF past Jar-Jar. I encourage you to check out the threads dealing with these two edits and to see the changes he made.

I know it was the laserdisc master, as I said in my post. But they could of done better than that. Lucas has never thrown anything away in his life. He has kept most every prop, costume, and model from all his films. He supposedly has the master tape of the Star Wars Holiday Special. So I don't buy that he got rid of all copies of the OOT. He 'somehow' found the original crawl to put with the OUT. (assuming it isn't a repro, which since no one has been able to show is, I'll say is original).


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Wow stinky, you hit the nail on the head. He is just like an actual talking ass.

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"You should just hang it up, man.... your attempts to flame me just come off as lame and boring."

I guess you've not been reading your own posts, then.

Nice try at deflection, though.

" I agree it's pretty arrogant, but we all have our own point of view when it comes to taste."

Again, it's not about taste, Gomer. Even a gusher-haven like TF.n is tired of your posting habits - and that's pretty damned pitiful and funny at the same time.

Someday, you'll get the hint, but don't bother bringing your sloppy seconds here.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
Personally I loved Jar-Jar


Why don't you marry him, you can be Meesah Meesah Gomer Binks!

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Originally posted by: Mike O
According to Lucas, the original negatives of the O-OT were permanantley altered when he created the SE version, and all the prints they have left of the O-OT are in poor quality.


There are numeours places, on this website and others, which prove that that statement is false. Even if it is true, there are still ways that the OOT could be restored. Lucas just won't let it happen.
Really? Maybe I haven't seen those web sites. The ones I have seen appear to operate under the speculation that Lucas is lying about not having any quality prints laying around.

I agree he probably could cobble something together and clean the ever living crap out of it to produce a nice anamorphic transfer, but I also see his point about not wanting to bother with that considering how much time and effort he has put into getting away from the pre-se versions.


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Originally posted by: Number20
I know it was the laserdisc master, as I said in my post. But they could of done better than that. Lucas has never thrown anything away in his life. He has kept most every prop, costume, and model from all his films. He supposedly has the master tape of the Star Wars Holiday Special. So I don't buy that he got rid of all copies of the OOT. He 'somehow' found the original crawl to put with the OUT. (assuming it isn't a repro, which since no one has been able to show is, I'll say is original).
Well okay, but I think that's assuming quite a bit.

And I thought someone had shown that the 77 crawl was artificially reproduced? Is that not the case?

If it was the original, then perhaps they found one print laying around where the crawl portion was relatively in tact.

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Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Rob
Zing...Man you're quick. Why don't you and Go-Mer-Tonic go back to your home on a-hole island.

If I'm a dick for thinking that fanboys editing other people's work is revolting, then so be it.

And Go-mer, I see your point, but fan edits are the height of fanboy hubris... its no different than painting over someone else's canvas.

It's a cowardly attempt by a wannabe filmmaker to squeeze a drop of creativity into their own unimaginative lives. All while distorting the work of someone who actually had the balls to make something of their own.


King of like what Lucas did to the work of Marquad, Kershner, Kurtz, and millions of craftsmen when he made the SEs, right before claiming that the originals "don't exist" and then releasing them with a substandard transfer? If he, a multibillion, can do it to the mainstream, what's wrong with fans sharing something with each other? I have the balls to make something of my own. Just not the money. I've never made or seen a fan edit, I'm just making a point.

According to Lucas, the original negatives of the O-OT were permanantley altered when he created the SE version, and all the prints they have left of the O-OT are in poor quality.


There are numeours places, on this website and others, which prove that that statement is false. Even if it is true, there are still ways that the OOT could be restored. Lucas just won't let it happen.


Then if you're making/buying fan-edits you're pissing over all the work the hundreds of people put into it. And again, with the bad "transfer"... god, get over it.

And not having the money to make a movie is an excuse that doesn't hold water. Robert Rodriquez made a movie on film for 7 grand. He would've done it for next to nothing today with digital cameras and desktop editing progams that are standard on Macs now. Go make a movie, don't fuck up someone else's.

"Among many things I have to be thankful for are you, the fans. I know that some of you haven't liked every single thing that I've done with the saga, and that you have a strong sense of ownership over all things Star Wars. But take that passion and devotion and channel it into a creative project of your own."
-George Lucas
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic

but I also see his point about not wanting to bother with that considering how much time and effort he has put into getting away from the pre-se versions.


Well then what the fuck are you doing here? You love swinging from Lucas' bearded goiter, we get it.

Do you and your boyfriend Randy find people who make mix tapes for their own personal use revolting? It is after all a "fan" edit of original works of art. Who gives a fuck?

If people want to petition Lucas to release the highest quality version of the Original Trilogy that he is able, why exactly do you care? If people decide to clean up or alter his films for their own personal use, why do you care? Don't you have anything better to do?




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I know you aren't really paying much attention to what we are saying, because that would take time away from your pursuit to insult us outright, but I'm not against the fan edits.

I think that if it makes a movie you can't watch watchable, then you should be able to do what you want. Assuming you purchase the movie in the first place, I don't see a problem with it.

I also don't have any issue with pettitioning Lucas for better.

I am a bit disappointed to see people hating on Lucas, but we all have our reasons for feeling the way we do.
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Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Mike O
Originally posted by: JediRandy
Originally posted by: Rob
Zing...Man you're quick. Why don't you and Go-Mer-Tonic go back to your home on a-hole island.

If I'm a dick for thinking that fanboys editing other people's work is revolting, then so be it.

And Go-mer, I see your point, but fan edits are the height of fanboy hubris... its no different than painting over someone else's canvas.

It's a cowardly attempt by a wannabe filmmaker to squeeze a drop of creativity into their own unimaginative lives. All while distorting the work of someone who actually had the balls to make something of their own.


King of like what Lucas did to the work of Marquad, Kershner, Kurtz, and millions of craftsmen when he made the SEs, right before claiming that the originals "don't exist" and then releasing them with a substandard transfer? If he, a multibillion, can do it to the mainstream, what's wrong with fans sharing something with each other? I have the balls to make something of my own. Just not the money. I've never made or seen a fan edit, I'm just making a point.

According to Lucas, the original negatives of the O-OT were permanantley altered when he created the SE version, and all the prints they have left of the O-OT are in poor quality.


There are numeours places, on this website and others, which prove that that statement is false. Even if it is true, there are still ways that the OOT could be restored. Lucas just won't let it happen.


Then if you're making/buying fan-edits you're pissing over all the work the hundreds of people put into it. And again, with the bad "transfer"... god, get over it.

And not having the money to make a movie is an excuse that doesn't hold water. Robert Rodriquez made a movie on film for 7 grand. He would've done it for next to nothing today with digital cameras and desktop editing progams that are standard on Macs now. Go make a movie, don't fuck up someone else's.


What is more pathetic - having a legitimate hobby based on passion or having a hobby that completely revolves around ridiculing the hobbies of others? Lucas still has his "original" works of art - they are his and his alone to alter, destroy, re-release, etc. Fans who are so dedicated and fascinated by Lucas' original works of art that they cater them to their own personal tastes is hardly "revolting" or immoral. It is absolutely no different than taking a handful of albums making a mix tape to play on your iPod, or giving the mix tape to your friend.

You are a silly, lifeless cunt. You should take the time it takes you trying to talk others out of their legitimate hobbies and build a ship in a jar. At least after all is said and done you'll have something tangible to show for your wasted time and effort.

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It boggles my mind that you "Gay for Lucas" types are wasting your time here. You have visited the home page right? You do know that this entire site is dedicated to the preservation of the OT right? Stinky had a pretty good idea with that ship in the bottle thing, but I think an even better solution would be for Randi and Gomer Binks to start a "Gay for Lucas" site of their own. There you could frolic in the fields of Lucas' genius, and setup weekend marathons where you all get together to watch the six different versions of each film. You could also swap Jar Jar memorobilia and have contest to find how who loves George the most. That would be really cool, www.GayforLucas.com

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Posting that was not a good idea.

If Boon sees it he'll make a GayerForLucas.com before you're even out of the gate.

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It boggles my mind that someone who loves Star Wars wouldn't be "gay for Lucas", but I handle it okay.
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
It boggles my mind that someone who loves Star Wars wouldn't be "gay for Lucas", but I handle it okay.


Wow, that says it all. Your mind must be constantly boggled. Now I'm being serious, you really should start GayforLucas.com.

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Actually, that's my pet name for the official site.
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