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Things you DID NOT like about Episode III — Page 3

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Do you dare to compare the shock taken when we learned Leia was Luke's sister with that of the fact that Vader was Luke's father?
Maybe we should not see the birth at all to avoid loss of emotion on the OT. No, the answer is that future generations should view the films in the order we all saw them.

A comment on your critics:
I really think that most of you guys are just doing your best to find every single flaw in the movie, but apparently you are not trying enough.
The film was f@*&ing great! No comparison with the first two prequels that really sucked. You honestly want people to believe that you think Anakin's turn to the dark side was not convincing, and Luke's LAME strugle not to hit the emperor in ROTJ was?
Fact is that characters and sentiments in this movie are far more conviencing compared to the simplistic Good - Bad struggle in the OT.
Compare for instance the elaborate way in which Palpatine lures Anakin to the dark side, to the "yes, strike me down and then you will belong to me" line in ROTJ
But just to be a little more on-topic, let me say one thing that I hated in the movie that has not been mentioned:
Dear George Lucas, making Ewoks sould like Tarzan in ROTJ was an insult to your imagination, and peolpe hated it. Why the hell would you make wookies sound like Tarzan too? Didn't you get the message 20 years ago?
And now, for your feature presentation:
The Classic Re-re-re-release of Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back.
In this version the word "WOOKIE" has been changed to "HAIR CHALLENGED ANIMAL" and the entire cast has been digitally replaced by Ewoks.
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I didnt like:
Anakin: "You're so beautiful..."
Padme: "Its only because I'm so in love."
Anakin: "No. Its because I'm so in love with you!"

Bleh
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Hmm, they changed around some of their techno-babble for the new Visual dictionary, the little circular thing at the very bottom center used to be the Polarity sink.
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Did anybody else think that Palpatine post-electrocution with his hood off looked like Jim Carrey as the Grinch?
40,000 million notches away
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Something else I've noticed, not just with me but with everyone...this movie is NOT repeat watchable. Seriously...after the second time through, there is really no motivation to go see it again in theatres. I mean, it's got great action, a good storyline...but I'm not watching the movie for clues as to how the next one will be, or how it all links up with the OT. It just feels...done and over. "We got bored" as my mom said during the second viewing.

I wouldn't say the Star Wars films should be over...just stay away from anything already established. A Mace Windu movie, or perhaps a Mandalorian movie would be good. Less Jedi would make it a far different feel.
Which is the more foolish, the fool (the OT) or the fool who follows (the PT)?

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1) Wooden acting
2) Over reliance on CGI
3) Chewbaca being in the film
4) Bail Organa being a senator
5) blatant references to the real world
6) Padme dying
7) Battle droids
8) Clones being able to slay the Jedi
9) Vader killing all the Jedi BEFORE getting his suit.
10) CGI Yoda
11) Wielding Lightsabres with one hand
12) bad makeup on Palpatine.
13) Story contradictions galore
14) Matrix style fighting
15) WORST OPENING SCROLLING TEXT EVER! That was drivel and garbage!
16) Gray area bullshit. "evil is a point of view"
17) Anakin being a slave to his balls and letting many innocents die to save Padme.

My childhood memories have been transformed into a Japanese Schoolgirl, and George Lucas has become a tentacle monster.

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Fine, mister Lucas, while you're at it why dont you replace Lando with will smith?
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you have a point with the crawl. I laughed in the theatre when i saw that the first sentence in the crawl was in fact "WAR!" I then begane to sing a mixture of WAR songs...
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Originally posted by: Kam
1) Wooden acting --Most of that was soley from Anakin. Everyone else was pretty good.
2) Over reliance on CGI - And this is some of the BEST CGI I have ever seen.
3) Chewbaca being in the film - That was a little cheap, granted
4) Bail Organa being a senator - What's wrong with that? He's still Viceroy of the Planet. His wife is queen.
5) blatant references to the real world - Where?
6) Padme dying - That did suck.
7) Battle droids - I like watching them get cut. So they're a plus for me.
8) Clones being able to slay the Jedi - That's betrayal for you
9) Vader killing all the Jedi BEFORE getting his suit. - Better than seing Hayden trying to fight in that suit\
10) CGI Yoda -again some of the best CGI I've ever seen
11) Wielding Lightsabres with one hand They did that in Episode 2 as well
12) bad makeup on Palpatine. -- Not as bad as I thought it would be.
13) Story contradictions galore -- I guess.
14) Matrix style fighting -- Again, I thought that was a plus.
15) WORST OPENING SCROLLING TEXT EVER! -- I agree
16) Gray area bullshit. "evil is a point of view" -- notice that an evil character said that.
17) Anakin being a slave to his balls and letting many innocents die to save Padme. -- Well. He is Vader.


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Originally posted by: Kam

My childhood memories have been transformed into a Japanese Schoolgirl, and George Lucas has become a tentacle monster.


AHHAHAHAAHAAHAAHAAAAAAA!!!
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Kam, most of your reasons are pretty dumb reasons. I mean, you have a few up there that make sense, and you have a few up there that are just personal opinion... But I mean, you listed things like "wielding Lightsabres with one hand" and "Vader killing all the Jedi before getting his suit." What does that have to do with anything? Those are pretty weak reasons to dislike the movie.

The CGI stuff is just opinions. I didn't mind it, but I can understand how you would dislike it.

I could go on and just write a list countering all your reasons, but I'd rather not. I doubt me saying anything would change your mind.
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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
Kam, most of your reasons are pretty dumb reasons. I mean, you have a few up there that make sense, and you have a few up there that are just personal opinion... But I mean, you listed things like "wielding Lightsabres with one hand" and "Vader killing all the Jedi before getting his suit." What does that have to do with anything? Those are pretty weak reasons to dislike the movie.

The CGI stuff is just opinions. I didn't mind it, but I can understand how you would dislike it.

I could go on and just write a list countering all your reasons, but I'd rather not. I doubt me saying anything would change your mind.


How is that weak, the title of the thread is "Things you DID NOT like about Episode III" making it all a matter of opinion...

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There's a difference between things that actually made the movie bad, and things that you're just complaining about because you didn't like the movie. most the stuff on his list was fine, if that's his opinion... But some things were just dumb and he didn't need to list them.

Why should it matter if Vader killed Jedi before or after he got his suit? And why would people wielding lightsabres with one hand have any effect on the movie?

It's obvious he's just trying to pull excuses out of his ass just so he can make it sound worse than it actually was. I'd be fine if he listed valid reasons, but really... I doubt some of those things actually took away from his movie experience.
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Originally posted by: Jaster Mareel
There's a difference between things that actually made the movie bad, and things that you're just complaining about because you didn't like the movie. most the stuff on his list was fine, if that's his opinion... But some things were just dumb and he didn't need to list them.

Why should it matter if Vader killed Jedi before or after he got his suit? And why would people wielding lightsabres with one hand have any effect on the movie?

It's obvious he's just trying to pull excuses out of his ass just so he can make it sound worse than it actually was. I'd be fine if he listed valid reasons, but really... I doubt some of those things actually took away from his movie experience.

i agree with you, i was just being a instigator.

but i see his grief with the no vader in the suit kicking tale. That is all i wanted to see, and has been one of the biggest wishes i have had since hearing about the pt in early 90's and i am sure tha ti am not alone with that...


edit: am i the only one that was amazed that RotS was over a 7-9 month span? i didnt think about it at first, but Padme tells ani she is pregnant in the beginning and gives birth in the end, not to mention gets the belly. It just felt like it took place over a couple weeks to a months, not 7-9 months. Oh another thing, did they not have ultra sounds or something equivilant in a galaxy far far away. One would think that in the 7-9 months period padme would seek some medical assistance, unless she was trying to hide it. but then why walk around with the dresses that show the belly? just more question i have...
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its not necessarily a 7-9 month span. They never say how far along she was when she first told Anakin, and she was showing at that point. remember they had been apart for what 'seems like lifetimes' or something. so unless the twins arent really Anakin's then he must have knocked her up when last he was home. which could have been been almost 9 months. Plus you assume that the development rate of a fetus out in a galaxy far, far away is the same here on earth

i think this was all mentioned in one of the other million threads that popped up after ROTS came out, its nice some of those have died off, though they did hold nice ideas/thoughts.. the only thing really left to consider is that it seemed her belly size fluctuated as time went by.

-Darth Simon
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

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*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
its not necessarily a 7-9 month span. They never say how far along she was when she first told Anakin, and she was showing at that point. remember they had been apart for what 'seems like lifetimes' or something. so unless the twins arent really Anakin's then he must have knocked her up when last he was home. which could have been been almost 9 months. Plus you assume that the development rate of a fetus out in a galaxy far, far away is the same here on earth

i think this was all mentioned in one of the other million threads that popped up after ROTS came out, its nice some of those have died off, though they did hold nice ideas/thoughts.. the only thing really left to consider is that it seemed her belly size fluctuated as time went by.

-Darth Simon



quite right, quite right, so the movie is covers more like 4-6 months...
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yeah, i think thats probably more what it actually covers.

does anyone know if there is an official time line of the movie. I know there are official time lines for between the movies but what about for the span of the movies, or is that all fan speculation. Maybe on starwars.com or maybe the book is a bit more clear (havent read the book yet)

speaking of, does anyone have a good time line that covers the whole movie saga as well as include the EU materials

-Darth Simon
Why Anakin really turned to the dark side:
"Anakin, You're father I am" - Yoda
"No. No. That's not true! That's impossible!" - Anakin

0100111001101001011011100110101001100001

*touchy people disclaimer*
some or all of the above comments are partially exaggerated to convey a point, none of the comments are meant as personal attacks on anyone mentioned or reference in the above post
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"The film was f@*&ing great! No comparison with the first two prequels that really sucked. You honestly want people to believe that you think Anakin's turn to the dark side was not convincing, and Luke's LAME strugle not to hit the emperor in ROTJ was?"

Luke showed a great deal more anger in almost turning to the dark side, than Anakin did when he did turn to the dark side. Other than that, your "lame" comment sounds like something Kam would say about the PT.

Besides, I thought the later part of ROTS was very watchable.

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: Sadly, I believe the prequels are beyond repair.
<span class=“Bold”>JediRandy: They’re certainly beyond any repair you’re capable of making.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>MeBeJedi: You aren’t one of us.
<span class=“Bold”>Go-Mer-Tonic: I can’t say I find that very disappointing.</span></span>

<span class=“Italics”>JediRandy: I won’t suck as much as a fan edit.</span>

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Originally posted by: Darth Simon
yeah, i think thats probably more what it actually covers.

does anyone know if there is an official time line of the movie. I know there are official time lines for between the movies but what about for the span of the movies, or is that all fan speculation. Maybe on starwars.com or maybe the book is a bit more clear (havent read the book yet)

speaking of, does anyone have a good time line that covers the whole movie saga as well as include the EU materials

-Darth Simon


there are great time lines in the "Star Wars Guide to the Galaxy" and "The Star Wars Encyclopedia", here is the TF.Net onehere
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Personally, I like Nathan Butler's Timeline Gold much better.

You wouldn't believe the amount of information in this piece of work, NB truly is a super-fan.
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I noticed something new to bug us all about PT/OT continuity that I didn't see posted before.

I just watched ESB for the first time since seeing Ep III. There is the scene where R2 fights Yoda for the lamp. Given that R2 was on the Tantive, and that R2's mind was NOT wiped (which, originally, to me, was a very cool idea) I couldn't help but wonder why R2 would do this. R2 should know who Yoda is, and should know better than to try to pick a fight with him.

I can't buy any notion of R2 just playing along, which I'm sure some apologists will try to suggest. In the end, it would have been better to have R2's mind wiped as well. Then this sequence in ESB wouldn't be at odds with the PT.
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Originally posted by: Darth Chaltab
I'm one of those apologists! LEAVE R2's MIND ALONE!



It actually would have made more sense. You would think that in the 20 years separating episode 3 and 4 that R2 would have filled 3P0 in a bit on what had gone on.
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Why go to the touble of keeping a secret, and then tell blabber mouth 3PO all about it.
But the R2 and Yoda thing is also something I thought of the other day.

ROTS is a very good film though. I fucking love it. Seen it about 7 times now(5 on DVD ), and the end still brings a tear to my eye.

All I have to do now is get my other half to watch episode 2, then we can go to the cinema and watch it again. The way it's meant to be seen, on the big screen! (see what I done there...it rhymes!!)

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Here's what I didn't like about Episode III:

1. Vader's "Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!" - Made me bust out laughing with tears flowing out of my eyes.

2. General Grievous - Dumb character, speaks with some backwoods European accent. I kept expecting him to say, "So LoneStar! We meet at last!"

3. Anakin is supposed to be a godly Jedi, yet we only see him behead an old man and pilot a crashing starship. Obi-Wan on the other hand takes on Greivous and kicks Anakin's butt.

4. People can fight on floating metal in the middle of a molten lava river and not die from massive heat? C'mon!

5. Hayden's acting was completely awful.

6. The Wookie battle was not needed. It was just there to provide some flashy CGI and to show Chewbacca for 5 seconds to the rabid fanboys.

7. The Palpatine rescue scene (first 20 minutes or so) was horrible. Enough with the slapstick/annoying trade robots. Must have been there for the kiddies. Ugh!!!

I could go on and on, but this was the worst of it.