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With so much information, misinformation, and conflicting information out there, who the hell knows what the status of the OT print is?

All I know is that we're 99.9% sure to never see it released by Lucas' orders, if it exists.

“Grow up. These are my Disney's movies, not yours.”

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danny_boy said:

 

OK---here is the definitive proof that the O-neg is in good condition----enough to generate a 1st generation interpositive print that Rick McCallum himself described as perfect to a foreign magazine way back in 1997:

Question: The scenes which were not digitally remastered, but only chemically restored are still looking faded or have a color tinge. You see the shift between the the new scenes and the original material.

Rick McCallum: Here is what we were talking about this earlier. One of the most frustrating things is, if you could see the print that stuck of the original negative that we have done - it's perfect. It's not perfect in terms of the colorrestauration, because we still have a long way to go. We will need to scan the movie. In propably five years, when scanning technology drops at a cost that isn't so prohibitive anymore. Now it would cost 10-12 millions Dollars only to scan the whole movie. We just can't do it. Possible we take 2-3 years to be able to restore the color back to its original. We did the best that we could within the technology we have today. This is one of the big challenges for us in the future. The problem is, film is a chemical process and it's like alchemy. It's magic. If you do a print and the developer bath isn't as clean or whatever it is - it's very hard to stain, because it's a photo-chemical process. It lives, it breath, it changes on every print. We are hoping to drive the technology to a level to distribute movies electronically. So we can incode in digital data the color, the contrast and the level that the soundtrack has to do. No theater owner can screw us up again. It's not just the theater owner, it's this bizarre process called filmmaking that is still so fragile. It's hard to believe that we actually had to restore a film that's only 20 years old. Film is an inherently instable medium. It's there and it's changing every day. It feeds on itself,  it destroys itself. But it's not only Star Wars. The whole films of the 70s are at risk. With the success of Star Wars all the studios are rushing back trying to protect their films. They are inherently what gives them value. But I apologize for the shift. It's something that goes beyond us. That is the thing what is most frustrating.

 

http://www.maikeldas.com/SWrick1eng.html

 


An interesting read for sure.....an I'm not surprised this article hasn't seen much attention considering Rick is apologizing for the color shift (if I understand it correctly).....it wouldn't make Ole George very happy....LOL

 

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The main part of McCallum's job was to oversee the film's restoration. The original negative had been stored since 1977 in a subterranean vault in Kansas at an optimum temperature of 50 to 53 degrees. But because of a type of color film stock that was used for most films in the '70s, the negative had deteriorated dramatically, with a color loss of up to 30 percent in some parts, McCallum said. Dirt was embedded in the six reels of the negative and frames were scratched and pitted. McCallum said that before anything new could be done to the film, the original had to be restored. He said a group of about 30 people worked for three years cleaning the negative with a sponge, frame by frame, using a special chemical bath heated to 100 degrees. Some portions of the negative were too faded to be restored and had to be recreated. The old footage had to be digitally scanned into a computer and then matched to new footage, until finally a new negative and print were made. McCallum said the process can be used in the future to restore negatives from any old films that mayhave similarly deteriorated. All the new and enhanced stuff, which cost about $15 million, then had to be "degraded" to match the original images, McCallum added.

JOURNEY TO THE CENTER OF A FILM
`STAR WARS SPECIAL EDITION' PRODUCER TRACES THE RESTORATION AND RE-ENVISIONING OF THE ORIGINAL


SOURCE:    By Deborah Peterson

Of the Post-Dispatch Staff PUBLICATION: St. Louis Post-Dispatch
SECTION: GET OUT

DATE: January 30, 1997
EDITION: FIVE STAR LIFT
PAGE: 31

I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.

kurtb8474 1 week ago

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This is the best article I have found describing the dissection of the o-neg:

 

As a consequence, the restoration team was forced to struggle with a negative that was not only dirty but badly worn, from making thousands of prints, and was seriously faded, even though it had been stored at prescribed temperatures and humidity in a vault 650 feet down in a salt mine near Wichita, Kan. Blue skies and rich blacks had lost their luster. Silver had almost vanished from the emulsion in certain scenes, like the prelude to Kenobi's duel to the death with Darth Vader. Flesh tones had turned pallid. Strobing effects and those red fluctuations had mysteriously appeared. Some parts, such as the Tatooine desert sequences shot in Tunisia, had never had much luster to begin with. ("Star Wars," it's useful to recall, was first considered the slapdash work of a brash young upstart.) Other pieces weren't even original negative, but intentionally degraded duplicates that Mr. Lucas had stuck in to avoid emphasizing the quality of adjacent optical effects, some of which were so crude as to be almost unacceptable.

Tom Christopher, the Lucasfilm editor in charge of restoring the "Star Wars" trilogy, describes the team's three-year travail as deconstruction; another term might be Herculean, as in those nasty stables. Each optical effect had to be taken apart, layer by layer, link by link. Gaps and defects were replaced by original trims and outtakes, which Mr. Lucas had kept in his own vaults. Precious pieces of negative were washed, rewashed, matted, filtered ("We were handling the Holy Grail!" Mr. Christopher says), chemically or optically manipulated when possible, replaced with other original or duplicate material when necessary. Eventually 748 of the 2,228 shots in the movie were redone in the course of creating a new negative, from which some 2,000 new prints have been struck for the current national release. (Similar though less extensive work has been done for the two sequels, "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi.")

When I met Messrs. Christopher, Gagliano and Briggs in a projection room on the 20th Century Fox lot in Los Angeles earlier this week, they ran a demonstration reel of their work. Side-by-side, before-and-after comparisons of a dozen or so shots convinced me that they'd done wonders, albeit incomplete ones. "It can't be a perfect restoration," Mr. Christopher acknowledged, "because you can't go back 20 years. But this film has a heart, which is what we hope audiences will respond to again. This is a film that lots of people remember in the same way they remember key moments of their lives; they talk about the day they first saw 'Star Wars.'"

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB854660380658056000.html?mod=googlewsj

 

I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.

kurtb8474 1 week ago

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^ As you're cntrl C/P, could you do the full article?  The 748 out of 2,228 is a great number to read in print.

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^ As you're cntrl C/P, could you do the full article?  The 748 out of 2,228 is a great number to read in print.

By JOE MORGENSTERN

Back on the big screen after 20 years, "Star Wars" has regained its grandeur; that far-away galaxy was never meant to be squeezed into videocassettes. George Lucas's special rejiggered edition will be a revelation for kids who've never seen this seminal space opera in a theater, and a delicious treat for longtime "Star Wars" lovers, of which I'm one.

It's great to rediscover sly Obi-Wan Kenobi at the height of his powers, and spunky Luke in the fullness of his shallowness; to rejoin that most charming of gay couples, R2-D2 and C-3PO; to revisit that "wretched hive of scum and villainy," the space port Mos Eisley, now a much busier hive thanks to the wizardly interweaving of new footage. But at a recent screening I, like Obi-Wan, felt a disturbance in the Force. If my unease was less than his, I started feeling it earlier in the picture, about the time Luke first appears on the sands of his home planet, Tatooine. The colors, once so radiant, seemed subtly wrong. The print looked faded here, muddy there, occasionally beset by fluctuating reds, sometimes far too blue.

[Media]

C-3PO and R2-D2

Wrong compared to what, though? To the objective rightness of some perfectly preserved master? Or to my subjective, unreliable memories that may have grown in radiance as the movie grew in reputation? I sought answers and found them, thanks to the help and candor of three topnotch obsessives who had supervised this restoration: Tom Christopher from Lucasfilm, Ted Gagliano from 20th Century Fox and the veteran film consultant Leon Briggs. I learned that the film medium itself is more unreliable, more shockingly fragile, than I'd ever guessed--not just notorious old nitrate stock, but the stuff being used today. Many of our most cherished modern movies, features from the 1970s and even the 1980s that form the canon of contemporary cinema, are already in deep decay, and could be lost to theatrical audiences forever.

First a sense of how close to the grave the big-screen version of "Star Wars" actually came. (While quite good versions are widely available on laserdisk, the disks can never be blown up into theatrical prints because they don't provide anywhere near enough resolution.)

The movie was shot, in 1976, on four different varieties of Eastmancolor stock, all of them bad--i.e. subject to rapid fading and color shifts--in different ways. Shortly after production, the finished negative was supposedly preserved on a pair of YCM protective masters; the term refers to a three-strip process in which a record of each basic color component--yellow, cyan and magenta--is deposited separately in stable silver, rather than unstable dye, on black-and-white film stock that may last for more than a century (or may not; like every other archival medium, including optical disks, the YCM process has its quirks and instabilities).

But the preservation effort was botched, mostly by a failure to clean the negative before copying it, and the studio never bothered to inspect the final results. Far from constituting a single studio's sin, such neglect of corporate assets was endemic to Hollywood at the time, and remains widespread today.

As a consequence, the restoration team was forced to struggle with a negative that was not only dirty but badly worn, from making thousands of prints, and was seriously faded, even though it had been stored at prescribed temperatures and humidity in a vault 650 feet down in a salt mine near Wichita, Kan. Blue skies and rich blacks had lost their luster. Silver had almost vanished from the emulsion in certain scenes, like the prelude to Kenobi's duel to the death with Darth Vader. Flesh tones had turned pallid. Strobing effects and those red fluctuations had mysteriously appeared. Some parts, such as the Tatooine desert sequences shot in Tunisia, had never had much luster to begin with. ("Star Wars," it's useful to recall, was first considered the slapdash work of a brash young upstart.) Other pieces weren't even original negative, but intentionally degraded duplicates that Mr. Lucas had stuck in to avoid emphasizing the quality of adjacent optical effects, some of which were so crude as to be almost unacceptable.

Tom Christopher, the Lucasfilm editor in charge of restoring the "Star Wars" trilogy, describes the team's three-year travail as deconstruction; another term might be Herculean, as in those nasty stables. Each optical effect had to be taken apart, layer by layer, link by link. Gaps and defects were replaced by original trims and outtakes, which Mr. Lucas had kept in his own vaults. Precious pieces of negative were washed, rewashed, matted, filtered ("We were handling the Holy Grail!" Mr. Christopher says), chemically or optically manipulated when possible, replaced with other original or duplicate material when necessary. Eventually 748 of the 2,228 shots in the movie were redone in the course of creating a new negative, from which some 2,000 new prints have been struck for the current national release. (Similar though less extensive work has been done for the two sequels, "The Empire Strikes Back" and "Return of the Jedi.")

When I met Messrs. Christopher, Gagliano and Briggs in a projection room on the 20th Century Fox lot in Los Angeles earlier this week, they ran a demonstration reel of their work. Side-by-side, before-and-after comparisons of a dozen or so shots convinced me that they'd done wonders, albeit incomplete ones. "It can't be a perfect restoration," Mr. Christopher acknowledged, "because you can't go back 20 years. But this film has a heart, which is what we hope audiences will respond to again. This is a film that lots of people remember in the same way they remember key moments of their lives; they talk about the day they first saw 'Star Wars.'"

The demonstration also convinced me that the current or imminent decay of relatively recent films represents a cultural emergency. What films? A list might start with "Close Encounters of the Third Kind," "The Conformist," "Shampoo," "The Conversation," "The Godfather," "Taxi Driver," "Apocalypse Now" and "Raiders of the Lost Ark." They may be safe for a while on video and laserdisk, but not in the only format that can do them full justice. I'll write again soon about what is being done and what ought to be done to keep our movie heritage on the big screen.

 

I saw Star Wars in 1977. Many, many, many times. For 3 years it was just Star Wars...period. I saw it in good theaters, cheap theaters and drive-ins with those clunky metal speakers you hang on your window. The screen and sound quality never subtracted from the excitement. I can watch the original cut right now, over 30 years later, on some beat up VHS tape and enjoy it. It's the story that makes this movie. Nothing? else.

kurtb8474 1 week ago

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Thanks for posting that article, danny_boy, very interesting.

We want you to be aware that we have no plans—now or in the future—to restore the earlier versions. 

Sincerely, Lynne Hale publicity@lucasfilm.com