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DuracellEnergizer said:

I've decided to say that the 21st century is the worst era in human history, as I hate most of the movies, music, slang, fashions, technology, celebrities, etc, etc, etc. made in the last fourteen years.

 In purely musical terms it's the worst for sure because since about 1990 no new music has been invented and I suspect there will never be anything new ever again for the rest of human history. Rap was the last earth shattering advance to happen in music where you could honestly say “Wow I’ve never heard anything like that before!” and that's it folks… sorry. It's been almost a quarter century now and based on that I've concluded that there is no more, all discoveries have been made.

With space travel, we will go to Mars, then outside our solar system, we'll invent FTL travel, we'll colonise other worlds!... but musically I'm afraid the human race reached the pinnacle of it's evolution about 23 years ago.

(This pessimistic appraisal of the situation, from a former music blogger)

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There was a mall shooting this morning five minutes from our home in Columbia, MD. We ate there last night, right near where the shooting took place. WTF

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I don't mean to be rude, as I have probably already been too harsh on frievous in the past, and he is often the subject of others' ridicule in other threads, but...why would you start a thread like this?  If you were someone else, I'd take it as a serious topic worth discussing.  But coming from you, it just convinces me further than you have an extremely negative outlook on just about everything.  I really think you need to lighten up, try to see a little more of the good in life, and spend at least part of your day dwelling on happier thoughts.  Life sucks now, but it has always sucked in different ways throughout history.  But there is also much good, much to make us happy.  Psychologists say that sad people are more realistic, but I'd rather be a little more optimistic than realistic.  The optimists are the ones who turn negative realities into positive ones.  Change your world rather than dwelling on the bad.

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Ryan McAvoy said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I've decided to say that the 21st century is the worst era in human history, as I hate most of the movies, music, slang, fashions, technology, celebrities, etc, etc, etc. made in the last fourteen years.

 In purely musical terms it's the worst for sure because since about 1990 no new music has been invented and I suspect there will never be anything new ever again for the rest of human history. Rap was the last earth shattering advance to happen in music where you could honestly say “Wow I’ve never heard anything like that before!” and that's it folks… sorry. It's been almost a quarter century now and based on that I've concluded that there is no more, all discoveries have been made.

With space travel, we will go to Mars, then outside our solar system, we'll invent FTL travel, we'll colonise other worlds!... but musically I'm afraid the human race reached the pinnacle of it's evolution about 23 years ago.

(This pessimistic appraisal of the situation, from a former music blogger)

 I'd say it's been longer than that. Music hasn't advanced much at all in the last 40 years. Sure, we got fancy gadgets, and people like Pink Floyd played with them, but you strip it down, it's still not different than what came before. Jazz died when it turned into nonsensical phrases of pure soulessness. Rock died when guitarists became the only focus. Blues hasn't had it's moment since Muddy Waters played with James Cotton. Folk music remains the same, though I won't knock a genre for keeping it's integrity. Electronic music hasn't advanced too far. Really, about the only difference from Deadmau5 and Kraftwerk is the ease in which things are done now. Country hasn't been right since the 60's. If you count anything after to be good, it's because they emulated the past.

Movie soundtracks are the closest to classical we'll ever get, and even they have lost their flare.

Music has gotten far too easy to create, and as long as the normal person can bob their head to it, they don't care if it blows their mind. People these days don't want Dark Side of the Moon. They just want the same ol stuff.

Do I think music is dead? Absolutely not. It's just harder to find good music than it used to be.

"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas

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ray_afraid said:

TV's Frink said:

The black plague and the holocaust, just to name two, would like a word with you.

 But Duracell didn't have to live through that, so how could all those horrible deaths and atrocities be worse than living in a world where you can simply choose not to watch Michael Bay type films or listen Lil' Wayne type music but instead choose to turn your attention to all of the wonderful artists at work today? IT'S HORRIBLE!!!

 I see you humans haven't discovered "hyperbole" yet.

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EyeShotFirst said:

Ryan McAvoy said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

I've decided to say that the 21st century is the worst era in human history, as I hate most of the movies, music, slang, fashions, technology, celebrities, etc, etc, etc. made in the last fourteen years.

 In purely musical terms it's the worst for sure because since about 1990 no new music has been invented and I suspect there will never be anything new ever again for the rest of human history. Rap was the last earth shattering advance to happen in music where you could honestly say “Wow I’ve never heard anything like that before!” and that's it folks… sorry. It's been almost a quarter century now and based on that I've concluded that there is no more, all discoveries have been made.

With space travel, we will go to Mars, then outside our solar system, we'll invent FTL travel, we'll colonise other worlds!... but musically I'm afraid the human race reached the pinnacle of it's evolution about 23 years ago.

(This pessimistic appraisal of the situation, from a former music blogger)

 I'd say it's been longer than that. Music hasn't advanced much at all in the last 40 years. Sure, we got fancy gadgets, and people like Pink Floyd played with them, but you strip it down, it's still not different than what came before. Jazz died when it turned into nonsensical phrases of pure soulessness. Rock died when guitarists became the only focus. Blues hasn't had it's moment since Muddy Waters played with James Cotton. Folk music remains the same, though I won't knock a genre for keeping it's integrity. Electronic music hasn't advanced too far. Really, about the only difference from Deadmau5 and Kraftwerk is the ease in which things are done now. Country hasn't been right since the 60's. If you count anything after to be good, it's because they emulated the past.

Movie soundtracks are the closest to classical we'll ever get, and even they have lost their flare.

Music has gotten far too easy to create, and as long as the normal person can bob their head to it, they don't care if it blows their mind. People these days don't want Dark Side of the Moon. They just want the same ol stuff.

 I agree with the gist of what you say but I still think the late 80s is the last creative peak (Not the early 70s).

Sure, despite it's utter awesomeness, late 70s Punk can be written off as nothing more than a remix of ideas that had been well worn by 60s American Garage Rock and 50s Rockabilly, and acts like The Stooges and Patti Smith had laid down the complete Punk template years before 1977. Also the Electronic era of the 80s could be said to have been a reheated version of the work of Kraftwerk, Pete Townshend and Walter/Wendy Carlos. As well as the vast experimention with synthesisers going on in the Prog Rock and Disco movements throughout the 70s.

But with the late 80s you get Rap, Sampling and Rave/Dance (The latter two, I omitted from my above post, whoops) that sound like nothing else before. Sure there were inspirations from the past for these forms of music but they were nothing more than vague sketches. The late great Gil Scott-Heron had spoken over records in the early 70s but it is worlds away from Public Enemy and NWA. The Beatles had done (Almost unlistenably bad avant garde) sound collage experiments in the late 60s but these bare no real relation to the catchy Pop music from sample-created albums like '3 Feet High and Rising' and 'Paul's Boutique'. With Dance I'd conceed it sounded a little less 'fresh' than the other two, you could trace it's roots to Disco and to the Electronica of Kraftwerk but even Kraftwerk weren't experimenting with the pure hedonistic Dance beat until the late 80s.

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Do I think music is dead? Absolutely not. It's just harder to find good music than it used to be.

 I think the oposite might be true in an odd way. In the 90s (When I was in my teens) the charts were awash with pretty decent Pop and Rock music. Good enough that I did little digging into the underground or into the past, it wasn't really needed. It was only from the late 90s onwards (When most chart music had become almost universally drab, awful and corporate) and armed with this new internet thingy that I was forced to go find music for myself rather than wait for the record companies to dish it out. So in that way it was easier to find the goodies when the top layer of drek was bypassed. There are many huge Pop acts around now that I keep seeing on posters, who get movies made about them and are always in the papers that I have never heard a single song by because I've checked out of that machine a long time ago. The internet allows me and the kids today to find anything we want from any decade in seconds, it's easier than ever to find good music.

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Of course it's easier to find good music now.  Kids today don't realize that the radio used to tell us what to listen to, instead of us telling the internet what we wanted.

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AntcuFaalb said:

There was a mall shooting this morning five minutes from our home in Columbia, MD. We ate there last night, right near where the shooting took place. WTF

 Yeah, I went to the library around 1:15 and found them in a "partial lockdown", which meant... people could come and go as they pleased. Not really sure what was locked down about that, but okay.

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Heavy metal has came in the last 40 years.  And while it at first was just more aggressive rock, it has since morphed into something completely different and original.  Sure, it's more a combination of hard rock with blues elements taken out of it and replaced with classical elements, but it's a different kind of music all together.  Take black metal for example.  Whether you like it or not, it is unrecognizable from rock music.  It has elements of classical music and melody thrown in in a way that is totally unique and does not resemble anything else.

And as for blues music, I think it died with Stevie Ray Vaughan.  Sure he didn't invent anything, or do anything TRULY innovative, but the style and intensity with which he played made it SEEM like a new experience and has not been replicated since his passing.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IxZvmc5-tTo

Like it, love it, hate it, regardless of your feelings for it, it resembles NOTHING that classic rock has to offer, other than the actual instruments used.

And even if you do hate it, it is NOT just noise.  It has deeply written melodies that are strongly rooted in classical music, whether the distortion or the drums gets in the way of you appreciating that or not.