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timdiggerm said:
What happened to Chewie's face??
Wow, I hadn't even noticed this. It looks like eye makeup.
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I thought this was set between Star Wars and Empire Strikes back. What is with the Return of the Jedi design.
Skiff guard outfits and helmets, han looks like he did in return of the jedi, and even the spaceship the sand ship skiff/barge from Jedi instead of hovering over tatooine sand its flying.
Even the little window on the building is from the deathstar II.
Chewie looks more like lumpy from the holiday special but with eyeliner.
I know it is just a couple of pages, hopefully not final pages, but still the cover looks so Star Wars '77 and then the interior is a joke.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
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Not sure why people are so critical of the sail barge style ship? Yes it has thrusters pointing down but it also has the same engine/exhaust pipe looking thing sticking out of the back as Jabba's original sail barge which looks like it would provide some sort of forward thrust.
As for the design, I would assume the barge and skiffs were not native to tatooine but imports from another planet. It would stand to reason the company that made them might also make other vehicles, so why not a starship? I mean, in real life a company like Bombardier makes airplanes, trains, snowmobiles, etc.
And maybe the skiff guard costumes, since they seem aesthetically similar to the design of the skiffs/barge are typical clothing of the people from the planet where the vehicles are made? Perhaps Jabba's, when he imported those vehicles, also hired some people to help operate and maintain them? And here they are again operating the ships they produced? Seems reasonable.
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skyjedi2005 said:
Even the little window on the building is from the deathstar II.
Or, tie fighters, which also happen to be from '77... In fact, that window is FAR closer to a tie fighter windshield than the death star 2 window. Im not really impressed with what I see so far either, but geez, people are picking the smallest nits to be critical of...
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canofhumdingers said:
Not sure why people are so critical of the sail barge style ship? Yes it has thrusters pointing down but it also has the same engine/exhaust pipe looking thing sticking out of the back as Jabba's original sail barge which looks like it would provide some sort of forward thrust.
Even if it does have tiny thrusters at the back why would you place your most powerful ones in a position where they're useless during normal operation.
Second, the proportion of the thing is ridiculous. It's no larger than a Star Tours shuttle and has to fit two guards, a prisoner, an astromech, a protocol droid and presumably Chewie was dropped off somewhere beforehand. With that many passengers aboard there wouldn't even be room for a bathroom. Yet it's shown entering the atmosphere which suggests the thing is supposed to be hyperspace capable.
It doesn't even have room for a cockpit! The only practical viewports on the thing turn out to be tiny windows above the only door which is placed at the very front of the ship. So where are the pilots supposed to be situated and who would design a ship with no functional windows?
The thing is an absolute disaster.
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That's a much better critique and, in general, I actually agree with you.
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I agree as well, but allow me to postulate the idea that it may be a shuttle launched from another, larger ship? The Lambda-class shuttle we saw in Jedi was pretty small itself (though it did have a refresher and was better designed in general).
(incidentally, if you type "Incredible Cross Sections Lambda Shuttle) into Google Image Search, the first link is from OT.com)
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Now this I like:
Awesome homage to Marvel issue #1!
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That artwork would make a fantastic poster/disc cover/tattoo/ anything.
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That's amazing!
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Tobar said:
Now this I like:
Awesome homage to Marvel issue #1!
I only hope the interior's as faithful to the spirit of the original comics.
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darklordoftech said:
I'm so glad that they're avoiding that "eras" crap that plagued the Legends EU. All that Legacy and Old Republic stuff were the worst things to ever happen to Star Wars besides the non-release of the OOT.
Plagued? It helped authors so they were not stepping on each others toes. You think even KOTOR was bad?
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Koryo Songhay said: You think even KOTOR was bad?
KOTOR is responsible for a lot of the worst aspects of the Legends EU. The OOT and its characters are constantly hated on by Revan fans and KOTOR started a trend of armies of lightsaber-users everywhere and constant Sith Wars.
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If new movies happen sooner i could easily see massive sith and Jedi armies, it just looks exciting. I never heard of Revan fans hating the OT characters.
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Koryo Songhay said:
If new movies happen sooner i could easily see massive sith and Jedi armies, it just looks exciting.
It doesn't look exciting. It looks boring. It also destroys everything good about lightsabers. When it comes to lightsabers on screen at once, less is more.
Few lightsabers on screen at once = Star Wars, Many lightsabers on screen at once = glowstick rave
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Koryo Songhay said:
If new movies happen sooner i could easily see massive sith and Jedi armies, it just looks exciting. I never heard of Revan fans hating the OT characters.
I'm bored by lightsabers at this point. Back in the OT days they served the story. Now they're there to sell toys - the more the better. I'd be up for a Star Wars movie without lightsabers, honestly.
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darklordoftech said:
I'm so glad that they're avoiding that "eras" crap that plagued the Legends EU. All that Legacy and Old Republic stuff were the worst things to ever happen to Star Wars besides the non-release of the OOT.
Plagued? It helped authors so they were not stepping on each others toes. You think even KOTOR was bad?
KotOR1 is a pretty bad game overall and in its best moments it's barely mediocre. It's the usual Bioware fare with horrible writing, abysmal quest design, poor story etc. The idea for the twist was pretty good, but the foundations for it just weren't there. KotOR2, on the other hand, despite all its technical shortcomings, and even despite the fact it wasn't finished, was great.
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darklordoftech said:
Koryo Songhay said:
If new movies happen sooner i could easily see massive sith and Jedi armies, it just looks exciting.
It doesn't look exciting. It looks boring. It also destroys everything good about lightsabers. When it comes to lightsabers on screen at once, less is more.
Few lightsabers on screen at once = Star Wars, Many lightsabers on screen at once = glowstick rave
tht's like saying all martial arts fights should be between 2 people in movies. You gotta mix it up a little, it's not 1977.
[QUOTE] I'm bored by lightsabers at this point. Back in the OT days they served the story. Now they're there to sell toys - the more the better. I'd be up for a Star Wars movie without lightsabers, honestly. [/QUOTE]
No sabers and no Jedi.
[QUOTE] KotOR1 is a pretty bad game overall and in its best moments it's barely mediocre. It's the usual Bioware fare with horrible writing, abysmal quest design, poor story etc. The idea for the twist was pretty good, but the foundations for it just weren't there. KotOR2, on the other hand, despite all its technical shortcomings, and even despite the fact it wasn't finished, was great. [/QUOTE]
What? Bioware is known for being bad at storyteling?
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Koryo Songhay said:
No sabers and no Jedi.
Who says all Jedi need to wield lightsabers?
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The rule of cool says most of them should wield it.
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Koryo Songhay said:
What? Bioware is known for being bad at storyteling?
For the most part people don't care about narrative in video games so my guess is: they probably aren't. Who cares, though? You can whack things until they drop dead and romance some terrible npcs recycled from other Bioware games where you can whack things until they drop dead and romance some terrible npcs recycled from other Bioware games. Yay.
Yeah, I'm still bitter over the fact that after an incredibly exciting and creative period in the 90s when crpgs bloomed (Fallout, Planescape: Torment, Arcanum to name a few examples) there came the Dark Ages when crpgs had to cater to the widest possible audience and become bloated, terribly written, mind-numbingly dull self-parodies in order to even recoup the ridiculous budgets spent on presentation - a focus which impeded every other aspect of said games.
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No sabers and no Jedi.
I'd be fine with that as well. Not that there's ever going to be a Star Wars movie completely devoid of Jedi.
Jedi not using lightsabers doesn't seem like an outlandish concept to me, though. The Emperor wasn't particularily fond of them so who says he's the only one? If the Death Star wasn't a match for the power of The Force why would a silly laser sword be any better? :)
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Koryo Songhay said:
darklordoftech said:
Koryo Songhay said:
If new movies happen sooner i could easily see massive sith and Jedi armies, it just looks exciting.
It doesn't look exciting. It looks boring. It also destroys everything good about lightsabers. When it comes to lightsabers on screen at once, less is more.
Few lightsabers on screen at once = Star Wars, Many lightsabers on screen at once = glowstick rave
tht's like saying all martial arts fights should be between 2 people in movies. You gotta mix it up a little, it's not 1977.
I actually do think that armies of sword wielders inherently suck. The reason that the OOT didn't have armies of sword wielders was because there were people to say no to Lucas, not because of technical limits.
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darklordoftech said:
Koryo Songhay said:
darklordoftech said:
Koryo Songhay said:
If new movies happen sooner i could easily see massive sith and Jedi armies, it just looks exciting.
It doesn't look exciting. It looks boring. It also destroys everything good about lightsabers. When it comes to lightsabers on screen at once, less is more.
Few lightsabers on screen at once = Star Wars, Many lightsabers on screen at once = glowstick rave
tht's like saying all martial arts fights should be between 2 people in movies. You gotta mix it up a little, it's not 1977.
I actually do think that armies of sword wielders inherently suck. The reason that the OOT didn't have armies of sword wielders was because there were people to say no to Lucas, not because of technical limits.
Citation needed.
Perhaps he just hadn't thought of it, or the fact that there were a very limited number of Jedi in the OT eliminated that possibility?
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RicOlie_2 said:
darklordoftech said:
Koryo Songhay said:
darklordoftech said:
Koryo Songhay said:
If new movies happen sooner i could easily see massive sith and Jedi armies, it just looks exciting.
It doesn't look exciting. It looks boring. It also destroys everything good about lightsabers. When it comes to lightsabers on screen at once, less is more.
Few lightsabers on screen at once = Star Wars, Many lightsabers on screen at once = glowstick rave
tht's like saying all martial arts fights should be between 2 people in movies. You gotta mix it up a little, it's not 1977.
I actually do think that armies of sword wielders inherently suck. The reason that the OOT didn't have armies of sword wielders was because there were people to say no to Lucas, not because of technical limits.
Citation needed.
In "The Star Wars", everyone has lightsabers. In between the writing of "The Star Wars" and the production of Star Wars (1977), people said no to Lucas on lots of things. In the prequels, where nobody said no to Lucas, everyone has lightsabers again.
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Koryo Songhay said:
The rule of cool says most of them should wield it.
Of course, what constitutes "cool" is entirely subjective.
Personally, I'd find it cooler if Jedi relied on their Force powers in battle than their lightsabers. If Carrie, Scanners, Babylon 5, etc. can portray psionic abilities as formidible primary weapons, then so can Star Wars.