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GREENFIELD, OH—A local teenager, standing on the corner of Spring Street and Dunlap Lane, is clearly up to some kind of no good, neighborhood sources reported Thursday.

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Neighbors are keeping close watch on the teen, who has an unsettling number of pockets.

The teenager, spotted by Greenfield residents at approximately 4:36 p.m., has been described as tall, suspiciously quiet, and almost certainly looking for trouble. According to concerned sources, the teenager has absolutely no business being out there like that.

"Just look at him," said Bob Page, one of several men and women currently watching the 14-year-old from their living room window. "That boy's definitely up to something."

Signs that the teenager may be up to no good have so far included his hunched over posture, the way he keeps looking around with his eyes, and the fact that he probably owns a number of those violent video games.

Residents told reporters that they are especially troubled by the teenager's hooded sweatshirt, which he is wearing with the hood drawn, despite it not even raining outside.

"I don't like how I can't see his face," said homemaker Ellen Campbell, who attributed the teen's erratic behavior to the lack of positive role models in today's music industry. "He'd show his face if he weren't thinking of doing something wrong. I bet he's thinking of doing something wrong right now."

Based on his outward appearance, many are worried that the teenager is one of those youths who were recently caught drinking in the woods behind the recycling center.

According to residents, what the teenager will do next remains their chief concern. Though he is not currently in possession of a shopping cart, residents believe that he may in fact steal one from the nearby Stop & Shop, simply for the sake of inconveniencing others. Some have even speculated that the teenager may be planning to burn dead leaves later this afternoon, possibly with the cigarette lighter to which he no doubt has access.

Whatever unlawful acts he may be planning, locals are convinced it will include some sort of profanity, whether spoken, written, or a combination of both.

"He's probably waiting for one of his friends to arrive," said Howard Silverman, who pretended to check on his mailbox four separate times in order to get a better look at the teen. "Once that happens, they'll come up with something really terrible to do together."

Added Silverman, "The songs they listen to make them angry."

Fears among residents increased minutes later when several onlookers noticed that the teenager's hands had entered his pockets. Among the items believed to be inside his pockets were spray cans, spoiled eggs, and probably one of those miniature stereos that all the young people own.

The teenager then removed a cell phone from his pocket, viewed its screen—which sources believe contained a nude picture of another teenager—and placed it back in his pocket.

"What's he hiding?" homeowner Ron Kirkland asked. "One thing I know for sure: He's going to regret whatever it is he's about to do when he's older."

In a recent poll, 56 percent of residents claimed that the teenager is selling drugs, while 34 percent said he is buying drugs. The remaining 10 percent believe that he is currently on drugs.

Ninety-eight percent of those polled wished the teen would just go away.

"Maybe someone should call the police," said neighbor Patricia Meyer, who instead opted to stare out her window with an even more disapproving look. "I just hope something doesn't get robbed."

At press time, the teen adjusted his hood to reveal a giant piercing in his left earlobe.

I just think this is funny because the attitude towards the youth is so true. I've seen so many people so paranoid and disillusioned at us.

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It's an article from the Onion, how can it be true?

On your second comment, what do you look like?  I might be paranoid upon seeing you, depending on what you look like and where we're at at the time.

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lordjedi said:

It's an article from the Onion, how can it be true?

On your second comment, what do you look like?  I might be paranoid upon seeing you, depending on what you look like and where we're at at the time.

 

I'm not saying it is like true as in it actually happens but more like the content in the article are things you'd see snd hear in real life.

The most stand out feature on me is the long hair. I don't dress in anything different or unusual.

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What do you mean, "us"? Aren't you my age? Hate to tell you buddy, but I don't believe we're considered "youths" anymore. :P

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I'm 28 and I still get funny looks because of my scruffy long hair, unshaven face and tendency to always wear converse all-stars no matter what! 

Some people are just extremely narrow-minded, and the worst thing is I am starting to hear my own friends (who are the same age as me and got up to all sorts of things with me when we were kids) making comments not dissimilar to the ones in the article Sean posted.  Not only is it hippocritical but it's also sad to see people lose their sense of humour and understanding as they grow older and become boring, paranoid conformists.

I blame the parents (joke!)

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Yoda Is Your Father said:

Some people are just extremely narrow-minded, and the worst thing is I am starting to hear my own friends (who are the same age as me and got up to all sorts of things with me when we were kids) making comments not dissimilar to the ones in the article Sean posted.  Not only is it hippocritical but it's also sad to see people lose their sense of humour and understanding as they grow older and become boring, paranoid conformists.

You mean they grew up and matured and you've decided not to.

I did some pretty stupid shit when I was younger (I'm 34), but I wouldn't do those same things today and I'd actively discourage people from doing them as well.  That doesn't make me hypocritical.  It would be stupid for me to not try to warn someone about possible dangers when I've already had the same experience.

 

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I'm 34

You sound 104.

Kids are supposed to have their own style and do stupid shit. If they didn't, they wouldn't be kids--and they'd never learn. You can fantasize all you want about telling children this and that and expecting them to follow your lead, but if you think kids do anything other than what they want to do, you're naive.

Any kid who does exactly what he's told is either too stupid to think for himself or too scared to incur the wrath of mommy and daddy. I shudder to think about what my life would've been if I'd followed the advice of all the adults surrounding me as I grew up. God bless them, but my life is mine, and the lessons they've taken away from their experiences are unique to them. This is the case with any adult advice. Two different people could experience the same event, but take away entirely different lessons based on their point of view.

And I wouldn't say YIYF is immature because he's saddened by the sounds of friends turning into weak, scared old men. Face it, not everyone is meant to fall in line like you have.

 

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I agree that every kid will and should go about making their own mistakes. I don't see anything wrong with warning kids though. Obviously they are not always going to listen, but on some accounts they will. Some of the things I did landed me in so much trouble, I'd wished someone had tested the waters for me and let me know I might regret it.

To say that any kid who listens to what the adults in his life tell him is either really stupid or scared is a pretty dumb statement. I didn't always listen to my parents, but on many occasions I did, not because I was scared or stupid, but because I had a great deal of respect for my parents and didn't want to disappoint them.

It would be irresponsible parenting to not warn your kids about some of the hardships you have gone through on account of stupid things you have done. By sharing with them your own experiences you cannot expect them to learn 100% from your experiences, but the hope is that they will take them into account and possibly save themselves some trouble.

I wouldn't say YIYF is immature for not wanting to conform to standards and dress the way most other adults around him do. But I also wouldn't say his friends are scared weak old men. Seriously, why does this make them scared and weak? Come on! 

My grandfather felt comic books and video games were foolish wastes of time (and I actually agree with him 100%, though they were things I felt worthy of wasting my time on as a kid). The idea of calling my grandfather scared and weak for his feelings on these things would be absurd! The man survived WW2, was tough as nails, could work from sun up until sun down without taking a break, and was afraid of nothing as far as I could ever tell. These were things he didn't understand, they were things that had no use or merit in his eyes. Wasting hours staring at the TV making a little plumber run around and squash turtles just didn't make any sense to him. Reading stories in colorful books about people who wear tights and have magical powers didn't make any sense to him. Zipping around on skateboards, wearing baggy clothes and refusing to get a hair cut didn't make any sense to him.

So what? It is a generation gap, it is a differing of values, a difference in culture. It is normal and to be expected. When he was that age, he was getting up at the break of dawn everyday and helping to run his families farm. Of course he is going to look at me sleeping in until noon every time I got the chance, waking up and sitting in front of the Nintendo for a couple of hours before donning my backwards hat and baggy clothes and running off with my other baggy clothed friends as a complete waste of time and as being up to no good. Ha, half the time I was up to no good! So his feelings seem to have been pretty air tight.

And in all fairness you do have youths who go around and vandalize, thieve, and carry out other thuggish acts. When I was a youth I was looked upon with distrust by older people, but why not? When there are stories in the news about kids who dress and act like me doing these sorts of things. It bothered me a bit when I was a kid, but I always felt it was perfectly reasonable for them to feel this way.

I feel it is rather closed minded to hold these things against our older generations. The best you can have done was to show them there is nothing to worry about, and to keep your mind open when a younger, stranger generation than yourself comes along. 

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I hear stories about black people selling drugs and shooting each other. I guess I should be afraid of black people.

It's funny how some of you call Obama supporters media whores, yet you're buying into the same bullshit when you express fear and distrust of young people because some kid in a hooded sweatshirt is "loitering" outside your house. Put the handgun back under your pillow and wait for him to be inside your house before you freak out.

People who deal in distrust and criticism of young people because they're young aren't doing so because they're mature; they're doing it out of fear.

Also, please read what I wrote. I didn't say kids who do as they're told are stupid. I said any kid who does exactly what he's told is stupid. Substitute "kid" with "person" or "dog" or "dolphin" if it makes you feel better. I often did what I was told when I was a kid, but not just because I was told to do so.

And I feel sorry for the man who can't see the value in a good bit of foolishness.

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Pretty sure you didn't even read my post. Oh well.

 

Not sure why you went out of your way to bring Obama into the discussion, or what he has to do with the discussion at hand, but I do find it amusing. Anyway, it isn't buying into any kind of bullshit. I explained a rational reason for feeling distrust toward things you don't understand. I never said I had this kind of distrust, I don't mind hooded kids lingering outside my home, and my handguns are right where they belong and it isn't under my pillow.

Glade to see you feel sorry for people who think differently than yourself. Just as you reason and think the way you do because of the things your life has brought you, so do others. To some people there is no room in life for foolishness, and to others life is nothing but foolishness, and others fit anywhere in between.

The same reason an elderly person may find distrust in young men in hoodies, is the same reason someone might see old people who have such distrust are old and weak. It all comes from a lack of understanding.

I hear stories about black people selling drugs and shooting each other. I guess I should be afraid of black people.

Also, I can understand someone hearing stories of black people shooting each other and selling drug and thus being weary of black people, or believing that many black people exhibit this behavior. I can understand it, note the incredible difference between "understand" and saying someone "should" do something.I never suggested anybody should do or act any certain way in my previous post, all I ever said was that I didn't see that sort of behavior and attitude to be 100% unreasonable. You can just as easily flip this on its head and say that just because some white assholes treat black people badly because they are black, doesn't mean all white people are like this. I certainly don't think darker skinned people should feel that all or most lighter skinned people are going to treat them badly, but I can understand it if they do. Especially if they have been mistreated by a white person or if they keep hearing about whites mistreating blacks on the news. Not saying it would be right, but it would be understandable.

 

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C3PX said:

Pretty sure you didn't even read my post.

Bingo.

I put you, lordjedi, ferris, and Tiptup on my skim list. It's too exhausting otherwise.

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Then I suggest you refrain from responding to our posts, because it makes you sound like an idiot when your response has little to do with what you think you are responding to. Just a thought.

 

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Or you could help everyone and stop posting altogether.

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If you'd like.

Seriously, if that is your game Jay, then ban me, do you really need a reason? Judging by your previous post, you obviously seem to think it would be in the best interests of your little site and everyone on it if I were no longer around, so do it. You really seem to resent having some of us around, but it is in your power to get rid of us forever. A permanent ban, and you never have to worry about me again.

Your attitude toward me and a few others here obviously isn't going to change, seems like it is getting miserable for everyone, especially those outside of all this who have to put up with this silly feud, or whatever the hell it is, making its way into every thread of the off-topic section. You might as well take action and bring it to an end.

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C3PX said:

Seriously, if that is your game Jay, then ban me, do you really need a reason?

That's usually the way it works.

Just because I rarely agree with the Four Amigos doesn't mean I go ban crazy. If that's the way you think I operate, then you haven't been paying attention for the last five years.

I also wasn't aware that our "feud" was affecting the online health of those who post in this forum. As I've done in the past, I suggest anyone who doesn't like the atmosphere here go elsewhere. I certainly wouldn't want anyone's mental health to be at risk because their feelings were hurt by someone on teh innernets.

As a matter of fact, the only complaints I've received recently are about a certain group of very insistent members who seem to think Off Topic is a place for them to express their very strong and obviously correct opinions and react with outrage and mile-long posts when others do the same.

And yet those accounts are still active. Know why? Because the people I tend to agree with are free to take a hike too if they don't like things around here.

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Jay said:
C3PX said:

Seriously, if that is your game Jay, then ban me, do you really need a reason?

That's usually the way it works.

Just because I rarely agree with the Four Amigos doesn't mean I go ban crazy. If that's the way you think I operate, then you haven't been paying attention for the last five years.

I also wasn't aware that our "feud" was affecting the online health of those who post in this forum. As I've done in the past, I suggest anyone who doesn't like the atmosphere here go elsewhere. I certainly wouldn't want anyone's mental health to be at risk because their feelings were hurt by someone on teh innernets.

As a matter of fact, the only complaints I've received recently are about a certain group of very insistent members who seem to think Off Topic is a place for them to express their very strong and obviously correct opinions and react with outrage and mile-long posts when others do the same.

And yet those accounts are still active. Know why? Because the people I tend to agree with are free to take a hike too if they don't like things around here.

Well, I do appreciate that. But I have to agree with C3PX, it seems to me that within the last few months you have appeared to display an aggression toward us conservatives. Even in threads where no politics are even being discussed. One example would be my tribute thread to Bettie Page. I had always thought you didn't care about a little minor nudity, as long as it wasn't excessive or hardcore. But you put the quash on me and I respected that. But it just lingered in my mind that if I had not just prior had a debate with you regarding my opinion of Obama, would you have done that? Would it have turned out different if any one of our many liberal friends had posted it? All in all, I'd like to think that we can easily disagree on politics, but then all walk away friends because of our shared commitment of someday seeing a restored, unedited, original trilogy.

 

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Well, I do appreciate that. But I have to agree with C3PX, it seems to me that within the last few months you have appeared to display an aggression toward us conservatives. Even in threads where no politics are even being discussed. One example would be my tribute thread to Bettie Page. I had always thought you didn't care about a little minor nudity, as long as it wasn't excessive or hardcore. But you put the quash on me and I respected that. But it just lingered in my mind that if I had not just prior had a debate with you regarding my opinion of Obama, would you have done that? Would it have turned out different if any one of our many liberal friends had posted it? All in all, I'd like to think that we can easily disagree on politics, but then all walk away friends because of our shared commitment of someday seeing a restored, unedited, original trilogy.

Nudity has always been forbidden--not because I'm a prude, and certainly not because of political differences. The result would've been the same for any member.

How many of those "liberal" members you mention are still present? At some point, the hardline conservatism and relentless point-counterpoint of the discussions here become too tiresome for anyone to bother with anymore. Hell, I can't even stand to read some of the novels that get posted by people who seem to be intent solely on proving their point. Taolar has shown remarkable stamina, but eventually he, like everyone else, will grow bored with the discussion and stop coming back.

I'm sorry that those differences spilled into this topic as well, but the split in thinking is as clear in this discussion as in any other. I just find it odd that Off Topic used to be the most active part of the forum (as it tends to be in any busy forum, I've found) and now it's a virtual ghost town.

Informative, productive debate lends itself to further participation. What does it say when most members have chosen not to participate?

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ferris209 said:

Well, I do appreciate that. But I have to agree with C3PX, it seems to me that within the last few months you have appeared to display an aggression toward us conservatives. Even in threads where no politics are even being discussed. One example would be my tribute thread to Bettie Page. I had always thought you didn't care about a little minor nudity, as long as it wasn't excessive or hardcore. But you put the quash on me and I respected that. But it just lingered in my mind that if I had not just prior had a debate with you regarding my opinion of Obama, would you have done that? Would it have turned out different if any one of our many liberal friends had posted it? All in all, I'd like to think that we can easily disagree on politics, but then all walk away friends because of our shared commitment of someday seeing a restored, unedited, original trilogy.

Nudity has always been forbidden--not because I'm a prude, and certainly not because of political differences. The result would've been the same for any member.

How many of those "liberal" members you mention are still present? At some point, the hardline conservatism and relentless point-counterpoint of the discussions here become too tiresome for anyone to bother with anymore. Hell, I can't even stand to read some of the novels that get posted by people who seem to be intent solely on proving their point. Taolar has shown remarkable stamina, but eventually he, like everyone else, will grow bored with the discussion and stop coming back.

I'm sorry that those differences spilled into this topic as well, but the split in thinking is as clear in this discussion as in any other. I just find it odd that Off Topic used to be the most active part of the forum (as it tends to be in any busy forum, I've found) and now it's a virtual ghost town.

Informative, productive debate lends itself to further participation. What does it say when most members have chosen not to participate?

I reckon that's why most forums choose not to allow political discussion. I kind of hate that, I pride myself on being able to vehemently argue my position and then completely forget the issue altogether in the next thread, I even do that in person. I am a highly political person and I love studying politics, reading news stories, studying history, and keeping up on current events. So, I love the political discussion, but I guess if is putting that much of a wedge in the forum, then maybe we should re-evaluate the "Politics" thread and consider banning all political discussion. I apologize if I assumed that a little boobage was fine, I did a search and confirmed that no nudity was always the rule to protect the kiddies and you, Jay, from getting into crap. But I just cannot help but think I've seen some titties on here before. Anyhow, I do certainly feel that you have some sort of prejudice against us conservatives, I respect your point of view just as I hope you respect mine. I had hoped we could argue our points and still be friends in the end. I dunno, maybe C3PX and I are the only ones who sense the hostility you have displayed against us, maybe we're just being over sensitive or just plain silly. Either way, I dunno, that's just been my perception. Again, should we re-evaluate our political discussions policy?

 

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Also, I like Taolar, a lot. I rarely agree with him, but at least he's willing to argue a point and he's even conceded a couple issues and agreed to disagree on others when it was clear the debate would achieve no further help or entertainment. I will agree that some of my fellow conservatives love to argue a lot and can go ON AND ON with it, but I do not think we are some "gang" whose goal is to run off all of the liberal members. I think some of my fellow members could learn a couple things from Taolar as to when it would be best to just drop a subject to avoid further needless debate, but if they want to keep going, they can have at it. I too often can't sit and read the huge posts they make, but if they felt better after doing it, so be it. I hate to see folks give up or leave the off-topic sections. I happen to think I am right and others are wrong, it is natural human desire to prove that I am right, even if I may be wrong. That is human nature which provides me with great insight, fun, challenges, and entertainment.

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Jay said:
C3PX said:

Seriously, if that is your game Jay, then ban me, do you really need a reason?

That's usually the way it works.

Just because I rarely agree with the Four Amigos doesn't mean I go ban crazy. If that's the way you think I operate, then you haven't been paying attention for the last five years.

I also wasn't aware that our "feud" was affecting the online health of those who post in this forum. As I've done in the past, I suggest anyone who doesn't like the atmosphere here go elsewhere. I certainly wouldn't want anyone's mental health to be at risk because their feelings were hurt by someone on teh innernets.

As a matter of fact, the only complaints I've received recently are about a certain group of very insistent members who seem to think Off Topic is a place for them to express their very strong and obviously correct opinions and react with outrage and mile-long posts when others do the same.

And yet those accounts are still active. Know why? Because the people I tend to agree with are free to take a hike too if they don't like things around here.

 

I have been paying attention for the last five years, and I know that isn't how you work.

And again, Feud probably wasn't the right word, but it does feel like you have been going out of your way to call out or nitpick some of us in non-political threads. The recent "spoilers" incident in the video game thread is a good example. You and I both know I didn't post any spoilers, but you still took the time out to complain to me about posting spoilers. If that was a spoiler, then quite honestly over half the posts in the video games thread have been spoilers. By that criteria for spoilers, you could say someone asking for help beating the mutant shark in Resident Evil 4 was posting spoilers by spoiling the fact that at some point in the game you fight a mutant shark. Plenty of real spoilers are posted in movie and tv show threads by other posters and nothing is ever said about it.

I am sorry to hear you get complaints about us. I do find it really funny though. I can only imagine the content of those complaints, "OMG! I can't believe you let all these neo fascist conservatives run amok on your site spreading lies and hate! As a tolerant liberal, I cannot stand for this kind of behavior. Until you clean the vermin from your site, I shall be fulfilling my off-topic discussion needs elsewhere!"

We do not think the off-topic section is here just for us express our views. We keep our politics to the politcs thread or spin off threads where political discussion is taking place. We do have very strong political opinions, and like to discuss why we do and do not believe in certian things. While I cannot speak for the other guys, I enjoy the debates and discussion, especially when there is a diversity of opions, and hold no ill feelings toward those who do not agree with me. I don't think my opinions are always correct, in fact, I am sure I am wrong on many occasions. I have a great deal of respect for opposing views, and I like the fact that we are all free to express our various opinions.

Many forums are very restrictive and have a great many regulations, restricting things such as political discussion. I didn't join OT.com to talk about politics, but over the years I have found it an enjoyable place for doing so. I have always appreciated your hands off approach to moderating this forum. Everybody enjoys a great deal of freedom, and yet nobody gets away with stuff they shouldn't.

The last paragraph of your above quoted post is one of the reasons why I have come to respect you so much over my years as a member here.

I will definitely tone down my participation in political discussion on these boards, if not stop it completely, since you seem to feel as strongly about it as you do, and since you seem to feel it is hurting OT.com's off-topic traffic. In the recent discussion with Taolar, he took the time to respond to one of my typically long winded posts and asked for example/sources on a few things. Since he took the time to respond to my post, I have been meaning to take the time to reply to his questions. I will do this, then I will be done with political discussion here.

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The only time I ever remember nudity being "allowed" was when one or two people decided to fuck with a hypersensitive member (I think it was Ingo Sucks, or Ziegfried, or whatever name he was using at the time). And even then, the threads were slapped with a NSFW label.

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Nanner Split said:

The only time I ever remember nudity being "allowed" was when one or two people decided to fuck with a hypersensitive member (I think it was Ingo Sucks, or Ziegfried, or whatever name he was using at the time). And even then, the threads were slapped with a NSFW label.

 

Yeah, I knew I'd seen it somewhere, I got the NSFW on the Bettie Page thread when I did it. But I was wrong, no doubt.

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ferris209 said:
Nanner Split said:

The only time I ever remember nudity being "allowed" was when one or two people decided to fuck with a hypersensitive member (I think it was Ingo Sucks, or Ziegfried, or whatever name he was using at the time). And even then, the threads were slapped with a NSFW label.

 

Yeah, I knew I'd seen it somewhere, I got the NSFW on the Bettie Page thread when I did it. But I was wrong, no doubt.

 

Bettie Page did all of her pin-up work in the 1950s. She eventually stopped modeling, became a born-again Christian (was even a Baptist missionary in Angola for a while), and very much regretting having done her modelling career.

So yes ferris, it was in poor fucking taste.

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Nanner Split said:

The only time I ever remember nudity being "allowed" was when one or two people decided to fuck with a hypersensitive member (I think it was Ingo Sucks, or Ziegfried, or whatever name he was using at the time). And even then, the threads were slapped with a NSFW label.

 

Yeah, I knew I'd seen it somewhere, I got the NSFW on the Bettie Page thread when I did it. But I was wrong, no doubt.

 

Bettie Page did all of her pin-up work in the 1950s. She eventually stopped modeling, became a born-again Christian (was even a Baptist missionary in Angola for a while), and very much regretting having done her modelling career.

So yes ferris, it was in poor fucking taste.

Obviuosly a non-fan of Bettie. Although she was religious, she really cherished that point in her life in which she did the photgraphs. Allow me to show you some of her quotes:

"Being in the nude isn`t a disgrace unless you`re being promiscuous about it. After all, when God created Adam and Eve, they were stark naked. And in the Garden of Eden, God was probably naked as a jaybird too!"

"No, I don`t think my fans want to see me old and fat. I`ve got to get another 20-25 lbs. off somehow - remember me as I looked when I was younger. I get sad when I see my favorite movie stars when they`re old. Who wants to see Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau now as the The Odd Couple (1968)? Jack Lemmon is a fan of mine."

"I love to swim in the nude and roam around the house in the nude. You`re just as free as a bird!"

"I was never one who was squeamish about nudity. I don`t believe in being promiscuous about it, but several times I thought of going to a nudist colony."

"It makes me feel wonderful that people still care for me... that I have so many fans among young people, who write to me and tell me I have been an inspiration."

"I was not trying to be shocking, or to be a pioneer. I wasn`t trying to change society, or to be ahead of my time. I didn`t think of myself as liberated, and I don`t believe that I did anything important. I was just myself. I didn`t know any other way to be, or any other way to live."

 

She often felt her greatest gift to the world was her photographs, what better way to celebrate the woman to show her how she wanted to be remembered. I do not think, nor will I ever think, that displaying pictures of her that she was proud of to be "in poor fucking taste". You must be in the same camp that thinks Michelangelo's David is in "poor fucking taste".

 

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lordjedi said:

I'm 34

You sound 104.

Kids are supposed to have their own style and do stupid shit. If they didn't, they wouldn't be kids--and they'd never learn. You can fantasize all you want about telling children this and that and expecting them to follow your lead, but if you think kids do anything other than what they want to do, you're naive.

 

I don't expect them to follow my lead 100%.  They just better be ready for the consequences when they fuck up.  Most "kids" (read: teens) these days are not ready for the consequences.  Oh, that's right, they have no consequences when they screw up because mom and dad fix everything so they learn nothing.

Any kid who does exactly what he's told is either too stupid to think for himself or too scared to incur the wrath of mommy and daddy.

Or C, figures, on some things, that maybe his/her parents, who are a lot older than him/her, know more than him/her and can give far better advice than experimenting will provide.  I didn't listen to my parents 100%, but I also wasn't out partying until all hours of the night getting into trouble.  The worst thing I did was stay out late with some friends, after I graduated high school, playing roleplaying games (think Rifts and AD&D).  But during high school, I kept my nose clean.

And I wouldn't say YIYF is immature because he's saddened by the sounds of friends turning into weak, scared old men. Face it, not everyone is meant to fall in line like you have.

Weak and scared?  Who's weak and scared?  I've never been more confident in my life.  I don't "fall in line" either.  When I see something wrong, either in my family or at work, I speak my mind.  If I "fell in line" then I'd be just another drone.

I may have more responsibilities now, but that's what happens when you get married, buy a house, and start a family.  There are more people than myself to think about, but none of that makes me "weak and scared".  Being a responsible adult doesn't mean you're "weak and scared".  I know far more "adults" that are weak and scared because they aren't responsible than I do the ones that are responsible.

I have a friend that's 32.  He still parties like he did when he was 22.  That's all fine and dandy, except that he actually called me up one night to see if I'd be able to pick him up if he got to drunk to drive.  Being a good friend, I simply asked him where he was and how far it was from my house.  It was relatively close by (20 freeway mins) so I agreed to do it (if necessary).  Another friend ended up taking him home.  If the drive had been further, he would've been out of luck.

The point is, and the other friend talked to him about it, he knows he really shouldn't be out partying all night like he does.  He does it because the only responsibility he has is an 8-5 job and paying rent.  As long as he does both on time, he's good to go.  But when that lifestyle starts to conflict with others responsibilities, that's when trouble starts.

BTW: YIYF mentioned that he and his friends are 28.  Maybe his friends look back on some of the things they did and realize that those things were pretty stupid.  Now they see other kids doing the same things and think it's stupid.  How does that make them weak and scared?  Their parents probably thought what they were doing was stupid too.  I look back on some of the shit I did as really stupid, even though it was TOTALLY mild compared to what other kids my age were doing.

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