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The most pathetic drivel about the prequels i have ever read. — Page 5

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Easterhay said:

zombie84 said:

No.

I knew you'd take issue with TFNers having a "type." He's not being accused of being okay with the SE or prequels, there are plenty people here who have those views, including to some degree myself. It's not that everyone there fits into said type, because I am a long-standing member there, just that there is a unique brand of Star Wars fan with particularities that is mainly found at that place. Having been posting there for over a decade, I've come to recognize this. CO was a long-standing member there too, I think like me all the way back into the 1990s, and he would be able to recognize someone from there when he met one.

The fact that this guy is (vaguely) familiar with my work in the past seems to indicate this, as my book was first discussed at that place.

 

Well, you see it's very dangerous to assume (and given you've written something which is chock-full of assumptions then you should know this above all others).  I actually found your "work" on the internet and contacted you directly (admittedly before I read it) to say thanks and that this was something I'd wanted to read for a long time.  I was expecting an informed essay on the films, something similar to The Magic Of Myth.  Boy was I surprised.  I didn't contact you since because, well, if you have nothing good to say, say nothing. 

Still, I'm very amused to read your above post.  It seems you have your head so far up your own arse you don't know truth from fiction.  Christ alone knows who you think I am but you just keep sweet-talking me, dumpling - you (like the rest of your ilk) are endless fun.

This has to be a joke.

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Easterhay said:

Thanks, Alexrd.  I was considering leaving the forum alone but I think I'll stay now, in the hope that someone can be tolerated for having a different opinion here, and not be called a "troll" or a "dick" (amazing that such insults fly over the moderators' heads) just for going against the grain on some issues.

 

 I've been a PT defender, CGI defender, and Lucas defender many times on this board, and have never been called a troll nor a dick.

I think acting like a troll and a dick is what gets you called that.

 

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I like that he (?) insulted both zombie and Moth3r in the space of ten minutes.  I can't imagine this will last long.

Oh, and Easterhay, you said somewhere that you came back because someone PM'd you.  That wouldn't happen to be a banned member that sent the PM, would it?  Maybe someone recently banned?

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Wow, easterhay, you just love to desperately try to cling to that "moral high ground" in order to make yourself sound like some kind of oppressed victim here, don't you?  As others have said, having any kind of opinion is tolerated and welcomed here.  It's being sanctimonious and smug that's looked down upon.  You seem much less interested in carrying on a conversation than you do in seeing just how far you can push people's buttons until they get mad and lash out at you, so that you can claim moral superiority and cry out ridiculous "proof" that people are just refusing to be receptive to opposing (read: your) opinions.

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Exactly!

There's no need to act like a stinky poo poo head. No one likes stinky poo poo heads...

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It does seem a bit wonky for someone to join the discussion boards of a site campaigning for the restoration, preservation and legal distribution of the original versions of these films, if the restoration, preservation and legal distribution of the original versions of these films isn't really their thing.

But to go on to complain while here that proclaimed apathy towards the core aim of the site and the community gathered here is vigorously opposed is really out of this world.

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TV's Frink said:

Easterhay said:

zombie84 said:

No.

I knew you'd take issue with TFNers having a "type." He's not being accused of being okay with the SE or prequels, there are plenty people here who have those views, including to some degree myself. It's not that everyone there fits into said type, because I am a long-standing member there, just that there is a unique brand of Star Wars fan with particularities that is mainly found at that place. Having been posting there for over a decade, I've come to recognize this. CO was a long-standing member there too, I think like me all the way back into the 1990s, and he would be able to recognize someone from there when he met one.

The fact that this guy is (vaguely) familiar with my work in the past seems to indicate this, as my book was first discussed at that place.

 

Well, you see it's very dangerous to assume (and given you've written something which is chock-full of assumptions then you should know this above all others).  I actually found your "work" on the internet and contacted you directly (admittedly before I read it) to say thanks and that this was something I'd wanted to read for a long time.  I was expecting an informed essay on the films, something similar to The Magic Of Myth.  Boy was I surprised.  I didn't contact you since because, well, if you have nothing good to say, say nothing. 

Still, I'm very amused to read your above post.  It seems you have your head so far up your own arse you don't know truth from fiction.  Christ alone knows who you think I am but you just keep sweet-talking me, dumpling - you (like the rest of your ilk) are endless fun.

This has to be a joke.

 Jokes usually are humourous, but I guess there is some amusement to be found in just watching this guy go around provoking and picking fights with people.

For the record Easterhay, TFN stands for theforce.net, and if you aren't already registered there you might want to check it out as you may find likeminded people there, as long as you don't act as you have here and get in everyone's faces. Otherwise, you'll find yourself welcome nowhere.

I should also point out that people's problems here with you have absolutely nothing to do with your preferences and views, but your manner of conduct. There are many people here who regard the SE and PT favourable, to one degree or another--including myself. There are some who even disfavour the OT, like Anchorhead, who only likes the first film--and this person, who isn't that fond of the "masterpiece" ESB (gasp!), is one of the most respected members here. Know why? Because he doesn't go around provoking people and picking fights. And he offers insightful commentry--something you've not yet done. For all your accusations of the emptyness of my work, every single post of yours except two or three that I have seen have not actually been contributing to the discussion but have been personal disputes with various well-respected people here. I can't believe this is the way you behave in real life, because you'd have been pummelled a few times by now if it was. So please, get a clue and stop this self-martyring crap you espoused in your previous post.

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Well put zombie. 

what was this thread about again???

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I believe the thread was originally about some off-site gushers grasping at straws to make the PT look deep.
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Easterhay said:

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Hmm, reusing the same ideas, themes, situations and images from previous movies in later sequels to said movies while also taking them in new and different directions. How novel. Know what they call that in the real world?

A franchise.

 

Hmmm.  I've read your stuff, including the big deal you make of the numerous rewrites Lucas made before settling on a final screenplay (because we all know everyone uses their first drafts all the time.  Ho, and indeed, hum.) and I see you're still making a meal of Lucas using recurring themes in the films to create a kind of symmetry and to show how two people can go on the same journey and make decisions that take them in opposite directions.

Tell me, how many other franchises have done this?  Y'know, telling a story in two halves, thirty years apart, and yet still ensuring mahoosive worldwide success? 

It is interesting Luke and Anakin pretty much being archetypal heroes who take virtually the same path in the beginning, but Lucas really botched things with clones and sith.

In other words an interesting premise, executed rather poorly.  With another writer polishing the script and another director, or directors maybe this concept would have been used in a manner that created real drama and interest, instead of a joke.

 

Imagine if clones and sith were like the reversal of empire strikes back, and you see Anakin stating out with good intentions then slowly seduced by power, and the desire for power to do good, before he is corrupted.

“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.

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skyjedi2005 said:

It is interesting Luke and Anakin pretty much being archetypal heroes who take virtually the same path in the beginning, but Lucas really botched things with clones and sith.

I'd disagree that Anakin is an archetypal hero. Unlike Luke, who continually encounters - and meets - challenges and choices, Anakin doesn't make any significant decisions about who he wants to be until the middle of Clones, which is ironically the point at which he starts channelling the dark side.

Up until that point he's just a whiny object of Jedi and Sith machinations. I can see how the 'mirrored path' might have been intended at the outset, but the problem with the final product is that Anakin's just too young - apart from the occasional glimmer of thoughtful dialogue, he acts and talks like a child, and gets treated as one by everyone around him. Hardly the stuff of legends.

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Easterhay said:

Tell me, how many other franchises have done this?  Y'know, telling a story in two halves, thirty years apart, and yet still ensuring mahoosive worldwide success? 

Mahoosive? Seriously? Sometimes I get the impression you are trying to sound cool, then it dawns on me that it is really that you just don't want people to like you.