^Ditto. Why not release the whole thing? :)
EDIT: Having never read through this thread till now, I understand the reasons. I still cannot help but wish for the whole thing. Is there any chance this ever will get a full release, Mr. Neo? Would your source change his mind, given the fact that it was indeed broadcast?
Thanks for sharing what you have so far :)
And will we ever get to see it without a big watermark obscuring the picture?
The watermark plague. Ugh.
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Does anyone have a set of TV Guide from 1980? You could probably find an air-date then and which TV station had it.
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I would hope most people here appreciate the lengths you've gone to getting even parts of this rare documentary out there for fans to see.
Is the owner at least aware there is a fanbase interested in seeing this properly released?
Where were you in '77?
I hope my comments are seen in the positive light I intended. I am grateful you've gone out on a limb thus far. It does sound very cloak and dagger, and I can't help but wonder who this mysterious but relentless benefactor is. One of the articles linked somewhere earlier in this thread where some French guys get a copy is equally cryptic.
Thanks again for sharing what you have.
darth_ender said:
I hope my comments are seen in the positive light I intended. I am grateful you've gone out on a limb thus far. It does sound very cloak and dagger, and I can't help but wonder who this mysterious but relentless benefactor is. One of the articles linked somewhere earlier in this thread where some French guys get a copy is equally cryptic.
Thanks again for sharing what you have.
I don't understand why it matters that
Darth Neo said:
And since people tend to pass releases off as their own the watermark stays where it is.
But please don't get me wrong: I'm incredibly glad that we're getting to see as much as we are.
darth_ender said:
One of the articles linked somewhere earlier in this thread where some French guys get a copy is equally cryptic.
Do you mean this site?
If anyone has TV Guides from 1980, we can find out when this aired in Canada, and on what TV station. That would make it easier to try and track down a full copy.
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Hmm. No chance the site could be editted to add basic playback controls?
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
Just a question for a newbie.
What is the fuzz all about with this documentary?
Just because it is not available because the owner maintains its copyright very strict and only a bad dutch TV Rip is available?
Or is there more into it? Maybe to critical or s.th.
The guy had access to the filmmakers, cast, crew, while the movie was being made. Not sure how many other ESB documentaries can say that, if any.
“I find your lack of faith disturbing.”
The only other official ESB doc, SPFX, concentrated on the special effects.
Where were you in '77?
Well for one thing it is mentioned in Rinzler's making of book. The documentary now has good company seeing as that the real version of the movie from 1980 is unavailable and out of print and no blu ray exists.
As far as film history goes this is unconscionable.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
Does the book say if Lucasfilm has a copy in it's archives?
Where were you in '77?
Nope. It is just barely given a mention in one of those sidebars in the book.
I doubt a film print exists in the archives but the tape Kurtz had a dupe of probably does.
“Always loved Vader’s wordless self sacrifice. Another shitty, clueless, revision like Greedo and young Anakin’s ghost. What a fucking shame.” -Simon Pegg.
Why don't people tweet or email Rintzler and ask? Can't hurt.
Wouldn't the original owner be Michael Parbot since it was his documentary? And he's passed away, so in that respect wouldn't the new owner be the Parbot's estate?
Who cares who you got the tape from, the real issue is who owns the copyright and it sounds like Parbot's estate.
But from Neo's original posting in 2007, it came from Gary Kurtz or someone Gary knew if I'm not mistaken.
I think it's a crying shame that this isn't allowed to be released for the fans. Thank you very much for posting what you felt you were allowed to. I understand your predicament. But this shows just how wrong our endless copyright thing is. We don't even have a public domain anymore. We need copyright reform big time. This will sit locked away in some guy's closet forever. What a shame.
guys,
If you stop by Celebration Europe 2, do no miss:
http://swce13.mapyourshow.com/5_0/sessions/sessiondetails.cfm?ScheduledSessionID=18A8CB
and I'll be happy to meet one of you as I'll introduce it,
;-)
trug wrote:
If you stop by Celebration Europe 2, do no miss:
http://swce13.mapyourshow.com/5_0/sessions/sessiondetails.cfm?ScheduledSessionID=18A8CB
and I'll be happy to meet one of you as I'll introduce it,
Congrats, please write up how this all happened! Did you get lucky and were working CE2 anyway and this became your project or were you part of the individuals who found it and helped get it into the celebration?
I'm the guy who did the review on:
http://www.mintinbox.net/Dossiers/Michel_Parbot
basically the copy I got on DVD was not that good and I decide to work with a freelance guy here in France to enhance it and did some proposals to LFL to have it shown in a wider audience during Celebration Europe 2.
They finally got me a spot and I do hope people would enjoy it. We have it now in HD but from a DVD version, we tried to do our best.
Here is the announcement: http://www.mintinbox.net/Actus/13-06/2806CE2_Parbot
Hooray!!!
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That is very, very cool!