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The Usual Sequel Trilogy Radical Redux Ideas Thread - * TROS SPOILERS WITHIN * — Page 25

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Anakin Starkiller said:

How could we reduce all this excessive “poetry” (read: plagiarism)? How do we make the plots feel different enough?

First, edit the prequels to get rid of the plagiarism (e.g. the hero’s Force-knowing mentor is killed by a dark side Force-user).

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

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No, I think that gives it a reasonable amount of poetry, and with both other trilogies too.

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Exactly. All mentors are contractually obliged to perform a noble sacrifice. And they tend to return in some form. Gandalf (ressurrected because God said so), Dumbledore (meets Harry in purgatory), Obi-Wan (Force ghost), etc… Actually, this makes me realize there is no such figure in Avatar, one of my go-to examples of a fantasy epic like the other three, unless you count that one monk Aang liked who died in the Air Nomad genocide.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Exactly. All mentors are contractually obliged to perform a noble sacrifice. And they tend to return in some form. Gandalf (ressurrected because God said so), Dumbledore (meets Harry in purgatory), Obi-Wan (Force ghost), etc… Actually, this makes me realize there is no such figure in Avatar, one of my go-to examples of a fantasy epic like the other three, unless you count that one monk Aang liked who died in the Air Nomad genocide.

This is Joseph Campbell territory. It’s an archetype.

Avatar has hundreds because they’re all contained within him.

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Here’s an idea: Pasaana is Geonosis. It would tie the saga together more.

And for the love of the Force, give some of the aliens different skin tones then the same tone of fleshy orange they all seem to have some variant of. Give me purples, yellows, and greens!

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So I be wandering youtube and I run into this wonderful little fanfilm:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrmLeX20CY

Not of the best quality, but a fun, uncanon idea that serves its purpose. But naturally, I started thinking about fanediting.

I wonder if we could make this scene “Kylo’s training” in TLJ. The moment Snoke zaps him with lightning, we could cut to a trimmed version of this: planted by Snoke, taking place inside Ben’s mind. It would show how Kylo uses Vader as an idol, and the ending (where he kills Vader) could symbolize “letting the past die”.

For edits meant to be seamless, this wouldn’t work: the costumes are cheesy, the audio is all off, and the choreography pretty boring. But for more radical edits I thought it might be something to throw out.

Maul- A Star Wars Story

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I agree, and I always felt like there’d be more tie-ins between the sequels and the spinoff movies. Reminds me of people thinking TLJ would feature Vader’s Castle on Mustafar after Rogue One.

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Jedha is just another boring desert planet, though, and it doesn’t appear in the saga itself. Geonosis appears in the saga, and has a very distinct appearance.

People who thought the Sequels were gonna tie into the Spinoffs are too use to the MCU. Not everything needs to be connected.

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I’d like to cut Rey and Poe’s strangely romantic first meeting in TLJ. It’s the sole remnant of Colin Trevorrow’s Episode IX and feels thoroughly out of place in the Reylo-focused TLJ and TRoS. It’s just awkward, really. It’s another instance of setting something we get no payoff for.

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I’ve heard some alternate interpretations of that scene.
The whole film she is doubting herself and trying to place the responsibility of saving the galaxy on Luke and then Ben. She’s desperate to find out where her parents are and why her parents left her, only to discover her parents sold her for drinking money. She was a nobody, and she meant nothing to them.

So in the end, when she says she’s Rey and someone says, “I know”. It validates her identity in a way that says she is important. She has already begun to forge her new identity, and Poe has acknowledged that.

I don’t really care about how TROS retcons that or how it contradicts the TFA novelization. I don’t see it as romantic. It is just Rey, who sees herself as no one, realizing that someone actually does know her, and that’s a big deal to her.

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Also, someone pointed out (I can’t remember if it was here, sorry) that Oscar Isaac has chemistry with literally everyone he interacts with.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Here’s an idea: Pasaana is Geonosis. It would tie the saga together more.

And for the love of the Force, give some of the aliens different skin tones then the same tone of fleshy orange they all seem to have some variant of. Give me purples, yellows, and greens!

Nah, that would make the galaxy feel smaller.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

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As someone who’s removing Leia being Luke’s sister from the saga, I think it might make sense to replace her death through Force projection with a death via the bridge of the Raddus exploding. It would eliminate both instances of her using the Force in one fell swoop. Then again, maybe there’s nothing wrong with her being Force sensitive. I definitely don’t want her being a Jedi, though, so that flashback has to go.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

As someone who’s removing Leia being Luke’s sister from the saga, I think it might make sense to replace her death through Force projection with a death via the bridge of the Raddus exploding. It would eliminate both instances of her using the Force in one fell swoop. Then again, maybe there’s nothing wrong with her being Force sensitive. I definitely don’t want her being a Jedi, though, so that flashback has to go.

The Resistance wasted resources and sacrificed lives just to have Luke show up and help distract the First Order while they escape and nobody, not even Poe Dameron or Billie Lourd, ever even thought about using Leia as a Force-sensitive person to, say, crumble the Supremacy into a tinfoil ball since Force-sensitive people like the kid who Force-pulled that broom automatically know how to use Force-powers like telekinesis, and you think there’s nothing wrong with Leia being Force-sensitive?

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

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There’s a big difference between levitating yourself and crushing a colossal warship with telekinesis. I doubt any Force save perhaps Yoda and Palpatine have the strength to do that.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

There’s a big difference between levitating yourself and crushing a colossal warship with telekinesis. I doubt any Force save perhaps Yoda and Palpatine have the strength to do that.

Size matters not. Luminous beings are we; not this crude matter.

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Darth Lucas said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

There’s a big difference between levitating yourself and crushing a colossal warship with telekinesis. I doubt any Force save perhaps Yoda and Palpatine have the strength to do that.

Size matters not…

…but your heritage

EDIT: This is a crude matter.

“You want to sell me Death sticks” -Obi-Vod Kanobi

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We don’t talk about that.

My preferred saga experience:
TPM/AOTC/ROTS (Hal 9000 edits), ANH/ESB/ROTJ (Despecialized), The Mandalorian.
May the midichlorians be with you.