The Unpopular Expanded Universe Opinions Thread

Since there’s already a general Unpopular Opinion Thread, I thought it would have been nice to start a thread dedicated to unpopular opinions specifically related to the Expanded Universe.

I will start with some of my unpopular opinions.

1. I honestly don’t find the post-ROTJ stories from the EU to be that interesting. I’m much more interested in the Old Republic, the Prequel era, and the Imperial era up until the Battle of Endor. I don’t mind the post-ROTJ stories (if we exclude anything post-NJO), I just find the pre-ROTJ stories to be more interesting.
2. I don’t mind the Old Republic MMO, I actually like it quite a lot. However, I think that the expansions are much worse than the original, base game. They introduce a lot of plots that are convoluted and unnecessary, like Vitiate coming back a million times, the Eternal Empire, Malgus surviving, etc. Therefore, even though I actually like the game, I try to stick with the original story and ignore the expansions.
3. The Revan novel — and The Old Republic in general — don’t ruin Revan’s character. Yes, they ruin the Jedi Exile from Knights of the Old Republic II, but they don’t ruin Revan in my opinion.
4. I vastly prefer the way in which the Clone Wars were portrayed in the Prequels (and the 2000s EU) over the vague image of the war that results from reading the Thrawn Trilogy and the rest of the pre-Prequels EU.
5. The old EU didn’t have as much contradictions as anti-EU people claim. It was consistent with itself at least 70% of the time. Which doesn’t mean that there were not contradictions, of course, but they were not nearly as much as some people claim. Especially when you consider how many authors wrote in the EU and how many books and comics were supposed to exist in the same universe, the existence of some contradictions can be totally forgiven. Also, I think that the 2008 Clone Wars TV show was responsible for a good portion of the contradictions of the old EU.

Excited to read your own unpopular opinions as well.

This is getting out of hand! Now there are two of them!

I know! I don’t understand why the forum created two threads… Lol!

Vladius said:

I strongly disagree with points 3 and 4 but I guess that’s the idea. I think those opinions are already more popular than the inverse though.

Well, they are unpopular opinions on here, so I think it still counts hahaha. Besides, my opinion on the Revan novel and The Old Republic is actually quite unpopular. In fact, I see people bashing on both the novel and the game almost on every EU forum and subreddit.

Tobar said:

My apparently unpopular opinion judging by past reactions:

I think they should have used Kyle Katarn and Jan Ors in Shadows of the Empire instead of creating Dash Rendar and Leebo. Kyle and Jan were already mercenaries working for the Rebellion with big accomplishments under their belts and they were active during that period. Instead we got a Han Solo wannabe that was as interesting as a slice of bread.

I think that’s an unfair analogy. A slice of bread can be quite interesting depending on the type.

I’ll be honest, most of the prequel era EU books are kind of boring to me. They’re too dry and political. And a lot of them just seem like damage control to fix plot holes. They don’t really work great as standalone stories. I won’t say I hate them, I just can’t get into them. So yeah, I unfortunately don’t have as fond of an opinion on James Luceno as some do.

I also didn’t really like Darth Bane: Path of Destruction. I don’t really know why. Writing style, plot and characters didn’t do it for me, I guess.

A lot of people really like the Brian Daley Han Solo books, I just think they’re okay. I thought the A.C. Crispin Han Solo trilogy was much better.

One that I like that a lot of people don’t seem to enjoy is Truce at Bakura. For some reason I kind of liked that one. Thought it was a decent one-off. Granted maybe my expectations were low after reading shit like The Crystal Star or The Callista Trilogy.

I didn’t mind the first two books of the Jedi Academy trilogy. They were silly, but kind of fun to read. They were short at least.

I couldn’t really get into the X-wing books for whatever reason. I guess I’d just rather watch space battles than read them.

Kenobi by John Jackson Miller I didn’t really get into. Felt like the title character wasn’t in it enough. My same problem with Dark Lord.

Granted, some of these I haven’t read in awhile, and there’s some I didn’t finish, so make of that what you will.

JadedSkywalker said:

Is it unpopular to pretty much hate everything that happened after Vision of the Future. I like Luke and Mara settling down together maybe they have one or more children based on Vision of the Future, I even like Ben. But all the grimdark stuff from the Vong, to killing Anakin Solo, making Jacen Hayden Skywalker and killing him, and killing Mara I despise.

I share the same opinion, for what it’s worth.

JadedSkywalker said:

Is it unpopular to pretty much hate everything that happened after Vision of the Future. I like Luke and Mara settling down together maybe they have one or more children based on Vision of the Future, I even like Ben. But all the grimdark stuff from the Vong, to killing Anakin Solo, making Jacen Hayden Skywalker and killing him, and killing Mara I despise.

I think that, even though you dislike the New Jedi Order series and the Vong War, you might still like the Young Jedi Knights series. It’s the series that immediately proceeds the NJO, and tells the adventures of young Jacen and Jaina when they were still young teenagers, before the Yuuzhan Vong invaded the Galaxy. There is no foreshadowing of the future Vong War, since the series was written before the NJO, the Force powers are not over the top, and Luke is portrayed as a wise Jedi master. I think that it might be a nice epilogue if you don’t want to accept the NJO.

Spartacus01 said:

JadedSkywalker said:

Is it unpopular to pretty much hate everything that happened after Vision of the Future. I like Luke and Mara settling down together maybe they have one or more children based on Vision of the Future, I even like Ben. But all the grimdark stuff from the Vong, to killing Anakin Solo, making Jacen Hayden Skywalker and killing him, and killing Mara I despise.

I think that, even though you dislike the New Jedi Order series and the Vong War, you might still like the Young Jedi Knights series. It’s the series that immediately proceeds the NJO, and tells the adventures of young Jacen and Jaina when they were still young teenagers, before the Yuuzhan Vong invaded the Galaxy. There is no foreshadowing of the future Vong War, since the series was written before the NJO, the Force powers are not over the top, and Luke is portrayed as a wise Jedi master. I think that it might be a nice epilogue if you don’t want to accept the NJO.

Shit, you think people are going to take your posts or advice on here seriously after you telling a black member on here that:
 

“If you focus on the ethnicity of the characters of a movie instead of enjoying the movie itself, I honestly think you are the problem here. Who cares if the characters are white, black, green or transparent? That’s not the point. So yes, it’s a stupid criticism.”

Yeah, the italics in the “you” of the “you are the problem here” really adds the icing on top of your racist cake. And that a black man highlighting inequality in films is “a stupid criticism”.
 

When Caston then asked you in PMs if you already knew Keyan was black, and all Keyan had done is highlight some scenes that could have easily featured some non-white males, included women, or re-dressed aliens, instead being predominantly white men, in response to George’s recent statement and claims which George himself brought up at Cannes, you then replied:

“The fact that a person is black doesn’t mean he can’t be criticized, just as it doesn’t mean he can’t make the mistake of focussing excessively on the ethnicity of the characters.”

 
You then tried to deflect away from the focus of your statement accusing Keyan of “being the problem here”, by slating members on here and the site itself, by posting:

“I don’t have a problem with anyone, but I feel you’re all nitpicking just for the sake of finding something to criticize about Lucas. And look, I’m not one of those people who think Lucas never made mistakes, or is a flawed genius, but members of this forum tend to criticize him for everything, even the most insignificant and irrelevant things. If you guys don’t like the Prequels and the Special Editions, that’s fine. But there is no need to bash Lucas for everything he says and does, because it simply makes you unsure of your own opinions. We are in 2024, the Prequels and the Special Editions are past history, just get over the fact that Lucas made something you don’t like and move on.”

 
Well, good luck with that. I’ll be scrolling right past all your posts from now on. I guess others may be too. Each to their own.

Sideburns of BoShek said:

Shit, you think people are going to take your posts or advice on here seriously after you telling a black member on here that:

First, that’s not a black person, that’s just you with another of your sock accounts, and stop pretending otherwise, because the whole forum has realized that it’s just you talking with yourself at this point. Second, I’m a Communist, so good luck with finding racism in my ideas, and if you are illiterate and are incapable of understanding what I wrote in the posts you have quoted, that’s your problem, not mine. Third, I’m partially Latin American (my name is literally Luis), so good luck with trying to accuse me of racism again. Fourth, you have no right to publish private conversations in public spaces. Fifth, you are the only one who is having a racist behavior here, because you are pretending to be black when you are not. Stop creating sock accounts and tormenting the entire forum by creating entire threads where you just talk with yourself, we are sick of you.

Attacking others to deflect away from the content of your own posts? Good job!

I think I’ll keep on scrolling past your posts.

Two of us each have a number of forum memberships and social media from years before, a decade even, before joining up here. + Keyan is who he said he is from his pre-covid socials. From your posts it appears you knew that when you made your insult, and then doubled down on it afterwards.

Keyan:

Caston:

me:

 
Your claims are something that have previously occurred on here, by others also trying to deflect away from their own actions and posts. Those false claims were disproved then, and these new false claims above have now been disproved above too. According to others here who saw through both the previous and this latest round of horseshit the accusations were made by previously banned users, friends of, or people who’d previously burnt their britches here. Caston & Keyan have already left here, and now me also. This forum is awesome, as nearly all the users are on here, but it does obviously have a small dark poisonous clique, a cancer. I hope that gets cut out or removed, for the benefit of everyone else here and for the forum itself.

I now see why you chose to try and shift the discussion onto slurring others, rather than own the rancid views you posted above. You do you.

BedeHistory731 said:

Spartacus01 said:

Sideburns of BoShek said:

Shit, you think people are going to take your posts or advice on here seriously after you telling a black member on here that:

First, that’s not a black person, that’s just you with another of your sock accounts, and stop pretending otherwise, because the whole forum has realized that it’s just you talking with yourself at this point.

Exactly. This is ridiculous that the moderators have allowed this sock organization to keep circulating.

Increasingly I have begun to think that everything except the preservation and fan-edit sections of the site should be deleted. This place is mostly a graveyard…especially if all the sock accounts get removed.

theprequelsrule said:

BedeHistory731 said:

Spartacus01 said:

Sideburns of BoShek said:

Shit, you think people are going to take your posts or advice on here seriously after you telling a black member on here that:

First, that’s not a black person, that’s just you with another of your sock accounts, and stop pretending otherwise, because the whole forum has realized that it’s just you talking with yourself at this point.

Exactly. This is ridiculous that the moderators have allowed this sock organization to keep circulating.

Increasingly I have begun to think that everything except the preservation and fan-edit sections of the site should be deleted. This place is mostly a graveyard…especially if all the sock accounts get removed.

I disagree. In my opinion, a lot of people try not to write on the other sections of the forum precisely because they don’t want to be bullied by the guy and surrounded by all the sock accounts. For example, I’m in contact with one of the members of the forum (whose name I’ll not reveal), who openly confessed to me that he doesn’t write here anymore because he doesn’t want to be involved with the guy. Once you remove the guy from the equation, a lot of people might want to return to write on the other sections of the forum too.

Spartacus01 said:

theprequelsrule said:

BedeHistory731 said:

Spartacus01 said:

Sideburns of BoShek said:

Shit, you think people are going to take your posts or advice on here seriously after you telling a black member on here that:

First, that’s not a black person, that’s just you with another of your sock accounts, and stop pretending otherwise, because the whole forum has realized that it’s just you talking with yourself at this point.

Exactly. This is ridiculous that the moderators have allowed this sock organization to keep circulating.

Increasingly I have begun to think that everything except the preservation and fan-edit sections of the site should be deleted. This place is mostly a graveyard…especially if all the sock accounts get removed.

I disagree. In my opinion, a lot of people try not to write on the other sections of the forum precisely because they don’t want to be bullied by the guy and surrounded by all the sock accounts. For example, I’m in contact with one of the members of the forum (whose name I’ll not reveal), who openly confessed to me that he doesn’t write here anymore because he doesn’t want to be involved with the guy. Once you remove the guy from the equation, a lot of people might want to return to write on the other sections of the forum too.

Maybe. But I think Star Wars is mostly played out. Look at all the members who don’t post about Ashoka or Acolyte (like myself!). The people who really care about the OT don’t seem to care much about the current stuff and you can only rag on Lucas for so long for not releasing the OOT.