The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread — Page 59

adywan said:

Scott109 said:

darth_ender said:

But that fight will be between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and therefore we know that Vader did not “betray and murder” Luke’s father, as Obi-Wan tells him later.  So tim’s right, the whole fight would have to be removed.

No, that lightsaber duel was the best of the entire saga.

oh, it really wasn’t . All flash and no substance

Really ? https://geekiversedotcom.files.wordpress.com/2016/01/anakin-kenobi.jpg

For something with no substance, strange it is to emphasize the conflict with a stagging and visual ideas that reflect the inner turmoil of the characters. As if the people involved in the production on this film knew a few things about making movies. Very curious… Oh! I forgot: the PT is the worst thing ever in History, and one day Disney came and Star Wars was great again thanks to… emptiness (ST, Rogue One: here you really have no substance).

But you’re right on one thing: it’s not the best duel of the saga. “Only” one of the best.

adywan said:

Scott109 said:

darth_ender said:

But that fight will be between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and therefore we know that Vader did not “betray and murder” Luke’s father, as Obi-Wan tells him later.  So tim’s right, the whole fight would have to be removed.

No, that lightsaber duel was the best of the entire saga.

oh, it really wasn’t . All flash and no substance

I don’t mean any disrespect. I’m just asking out of curiosity:

Isn’t more ships added to the space battle and pasted shots of Yavin in the background of “A New Hope” also kinda all flash and no substance? They weren’t exactly the main focus of the battle scene.

Again, just asking out of curiosity. If my question offends you, I’m sorry.

It was a jungle gym in a lava lamp.

Bingowings said:

If he is never called Skywalker in the prequels Luke’s dad could have died back at the temple for all we know so that aspect is not really a problem.

Then we’d be wandering in ANH about Vader’s children called Luke and Leia, which ObiWan took in Episode 3, only to curiously have the protagonist of ANH be called Luke.

Unless, the babies are not seen receiving a name in ROTS, but we would still have the doubt about Anakin “the chosen one”'s children and why would they suddenly dissapear.

Unless there is no pregnancy subplot at all, but then we would wander why does Anakin fall to the darkside.

There is no way to preserve the moment in ESB without loosing more than what’s necessary in the PT. And then, even if you manage to preserve it, it’s only to the awe of people living inside a thermos, without any contact with the last 35 years of pop culture.

Well I mean it is flash. But flash isn’t bad so long as it’s not distracting from the main focus and emotion of the scene. The problem with the battle in ROTS (which I will admit is the ONLY prequel duel with even a hint of emotion behind it) is that there’s too much distracting flash and not enough emotional substance. What it needed was less lava explosion and parkour and more talking between Darth and obi wan. It also didn’t need to be nearly as long as it was.

Mithrandir said:

Unless, the babies are not seen receiving a name in ROTS, but we would still have the doubt about Anakin “the chosen one”'s children and why would they suddenly dissapear.

Well yeah… duh! 😄
If we don’t see the birth/death at all the ‘child’ could be anyone of about that age or she could have lost the child, we wouldn’t even know there were twins.

As for keeping the secrets. There are people who exist now who haven’t seen or care to see the Star Wars films and the prequels are billed as the first three episodes.

It would be nice to have a spoiler free prelude to the two and half good films in the OT and the ST which is currently okay. For kids to watch. Kids that like the sound of slowly fried Jedi face.

This is an idea I had. Not necessary by any means, and would probably piss some people off, but maybe a way to connect the trilogies more would be to, instead of replacing Shaw with Christensen in ROTJ, give Shaw the wardrobe worn by the Anakin of the prequels. Would perhaps allow first time viewers to more easily identify who the new ghost is. Doesn’t make much sense for ghost Anakin to be wearing something he never wore in life.

(very hastily and poorly done in photoshop)

Good idea indeed. But would make even more sense to leave Hayden as well.

How would Luke know who it was? Does the Force tag force ghost posed shots on Forcebook?

Bingowings said:

How would Luke know who it was?

Because of the Force ? But aside of that, there is the movie logic (does Luke recognize the - undamaged - face of his father he only saw a few minutes ?) and the saga logic… and both aren’t always logic. Really it’s more or less the same [to me].

He spent some quality time looking into the shattered face of his father. If we could recognise him restored but glowy and translucent back in 1983 I’m pretty sure his son could.

Darth Lucas said:

This is an idea I had. Not necessary by any means, and would probably piss some people off, but maybe a way to connect the trilogies more would be to, instead of replacing Shaw with Christensen in ROTJ, give Shaw the wardrobe worn by the Anakin of the prequels. Would perhaps allow first time viewers to more easily identify who the new ghost is. Doesn’t make much sense for ghost Anakin to be wearing something he never wore in life.

(very hastily and poorly done in photoshop)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIPO2pEzAx4

MalàStrana said:

Good idea indeed. But would make even more sense to leave Hayden as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Y2R01k4SXI

Has anyone else noticed the font for the subtitle, “The Empire Strikes Back,” and “The Force Awakens” in their opening crawls are TFF Franklin Gothic Demi while the other subtitles are Univers LT Std 49 Light Ultra Condensed?

Not suggesting this for Empire Revisited, but just wondering if Ady noticed it and thought to redo Empire’s crawl with the matching font used for A New Hope and Return of the Jedi?

I’m almost positive this must have been brought up before, but I figured I’d bring it up to be safe. Was watching ROTJ yesterday and realized it’s the only one with three ellipses at the end of the crawl instead of four. I hope/assume Ady is planning on remedying this for consistency sake?

adywan said:

G E Predator said:

Has anyone else noticed the font for the subtitle, “The Empire Strikes Back,” and “The Force Awakens” in their opening crawls are TFF Franklin Gothic Demi while the other subtitles are Univers LT Std 49 Light Ultra Condensed?

Way ahead of you 😉

http://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/929655

The crawl has been redone from scratch for ESB:R and it is a template that will be used for all 6 films, so each crawl will match

Awesome!!! Looking forward to ESB:R, Ady 😉

DominicCobb said:

I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again. There’s not much of a point to preserving the OT secrets in the PT, especially not if you’re trying to create a definitive edit saga.

I would agree with you. Everyone should watch the films in the order of their release when watching the saga for the first time. That is the only way to preserve all of the revelations of the original trilogy.

adywan said:

Scott109 said:

darth_ender said:

But that fight will be between Obi-Wan and Anakin, and therefore we know that Vader did not “betray and murder” Luke’s father, as Obi-Wan tells him later.  So tim’s right, the whole fight would have to be removed.

No, that lightsaber duel was the best of the entire saga.

oh, it really wasn’t . All flash and no substance

It was mostly substance, especially the conversation before and after the duel. The ‘flash’ is actually symbolic.
The lava symbolizes Anakin’s spiritual descent into hell.

Obi-Wan: You were the chosen one! It was said that you would destroy the Sith, not join them. You were to bring balance to the force, not leave it in darkness.
Anakin Skywalker: [shouting] I hate you.
Obi-Wan: You were my brother, Anakin. I loved you.

Dueling with a life-long friend is a more emotionally grueling experience than dueling with a long-lost father with whom you have never had a relationship.

Obi-Wan’s duel with Anakin in Revenge of the Sith is also more emotionally powerful than Obi-Wan’s duel with Vader in A New Hope because in that film his past relationship with Vader is only spoken of, never shown.