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I'm reserving judgment on this one. It looks fun, but I seriously doubt its faithfulness to the source.



BTW, Roald Dahl himself altered the books to eliminate the Pygmy reference in the Oompa Loompas. Later publications reveal them to look more like diminutive hippies.

Princess Leia: I happen to like nice men.
Han Solo: I'm a nice man.

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Yeah, you'd have to get like a version from the 70s to find the pygmy reference.

I also love the art in the older versions, the new version's art looks like crap.
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I still don't understand why William H. Wonka is such a popular property. I thought both the movie and the book were just weird. Like Invader Zim style weird, which doesn't work in the seventies.

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Candy sells, thats the reason.
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Well, its like explaining why Star Wars is so popular, or Final Fantasy.
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Willy Wonka was too "70s kids movie" to me. Like Disney's "Bedknobs and Broomsticks", you know? Both movies have that creepy early 70s thing going on, the plot is bizarre almost surrealistic, and the kid actors are too irritating to watch. Tim Burton will probably add some Danny Elfman soundtrack (basically depressive kids going "la la la la"), add some goth-depressive aura to the whole thing, and change the ending.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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I know what you mean, I felt uncomfortable watching that scene where he was on the boat going down the chocolate river the first few times I saw it.
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So it goes from an LSD-induced movie about a Chocolate Factory worker who randomly kills off selfish children by giving them dangerous candy, to a depressive, gothic candyman who kills off selfish children for being depressed?

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Yeah, but in the first one he said that the Children were OK at the end, in the new one he actually kills the kids
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Yeah, he did say they were ok in the first one.
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I visited a chocolate factory once, and I don't remember kids being killed.

The Tim Burton film is actually a closer adaptation of the book. Does he really KILL the children on the book? If not, then perhaps Tim Burton might finally need some psychiatric help.
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Its assumed that the children meet the end he said they did in the book, he never denies that.
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That sounds like a comedy sketch to me, Willy Wonka killing the children...
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Well, the Girl falls into the furnace, the other explodes because of too much Berry Juice, Mike get's transfomred into a small person, ect ect.

Wonka is a sick freak.

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Yep, and thats why Depp can pull it off.
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We'll just have to wait and see.

Anyway, we've jacked this thread long enough talking about Wonka, lets get back to hatin' stuff.
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I hate having a food hangover from greasy food.
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Isn't that called heart burn it the other forty-nine states, the D of C, and all territories?

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No, a food-hangover isn't necessarily from greasy food, its just when you eat too much of something and you don't feel well after it.

Its an expression me and my dad made up, like calling the TV remote a "commander".
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