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Why the hell would you want to listen to a bleeped out record, at any volume?
I'm not really into songs that are 'f**k this, f**k that', but once in a while an artist might feel the need for a swear word to espress him/herself (the offending walmart CD I was talking about was a Ryan Adams disk - we're not talking about Eminem or anything) Why should it be bleeped? I'm an adult, I'll listen to what I want.

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Over here songs with the F word or any other profanity are broadcasted by radio stations and MTV any time of the day, although this is rare. CDs are very hardly labeled with "inapropriated content" (except imports from america), but I think I saw a local rap CD with such label once.

As an example, there was this very popular "pop-rock" (can't find a better definition) group, which was extremely popular with kids and teens back in the mid 90s (myself included) because of their humorous lyrics. Their CD sold millions of copies. It featured no warning label whatsoever, the cover had the members of the band and two huge woman's breasts behind them, and the CD was filled with profanity, but the music was aired on TV stations and radio unaltered and uncut, and not even ONCE there were parents complaining or suying them.

On a sad unrelated note, the members of that band died on a plane crash in may 1996, I think. The horrible phorographs of that plane crash, along with photos of the mutilated corpses, leaked into the internet, creating the first and earliest "spam-like internet craze" I can recall.
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Originally posted by: Yoda Is Your Father
Sounds like America is a bit of a 'nanny state' when it comes to entertainment.


Unfortunately, you nailed the problem right on the head. But don't forget that we're a bunch of friggin' hypocrites, too. Wal-Mart will edit their CDs, but not their DVDs or books. And I've seen some books and movies there that, comparatively speaking, would make a fundamentalist's head swim.
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As long as we're on the topic, I hate that we depend on ratings to figure out what is and what is not safe for children to watch. It's just like the parents who complained to George Lucas because Revenge of the Sith was rated PG-13. "Now we can't let our kids see it, and they wanted to so bad!" as if this giant number 13 was suddenly blocking the door of the movie theatre, and there was nothing the parents could do about it. Parents should make up their own minds about what they feel is appropriate for their children, not let some number system do it for them. Each child is different and is at different levels of maturity, so we don't need to fall into some stupid form-fitting system.

And I especially hate television ratings, but that's because they are annoying to look at. I watched some tapes I recorded back in 1997, and it's amazing how tiny the rating was back then. I was still annoyed with it blocking the screen then, but as of June of this year, have you noticed that the ratings are now huge at the beginning of the show? They take up nearly a quarter of the screen, and then they show a smaller rating when they come back from each commercial break. It's just so stupid. Anybody who actually cared about the TV ratings (which is no one in my household) could already see it easily enough without it covering up the entire screen. The whole thing is just stupid.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Wait. Wait. Wait.

You mean there are actually parents who deny their kids the chance to see PG-13 fare?!?! And here I am constantly seeing parents escort their six-year-old kids into R-rated sex romps like Whipped and blood fests like Kill Bill.
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Heh, as amazing as it is to believe, Bossk, it's true. But I really don't believe Revenge of the Sith was really bad enough to force a parent's hand to say that it was off-limits... especially compared to your examples.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Originally posted by: Bossk
Wait. Wait. Wait.

You mean there are actually parents who deny their kids the chance to see PG-13 fare?!?! And here I am constantly seeing parents escort their six-year-old kids into R-rated sex romps like Whipped and blood fests like Kill Bill.


If God ever makes the horrible mistake of allowing me to have kids, I would try to refrain them to watch movies that would bore them or they wouldn't understand, and I wouldn't be concerned on violence or nudity. I would take them into a violent movie or a movie that features nudity or profanity, but I wouldn't take them to see an art film or something like "Waking Life" or "Touch of Evil", stuff they wouldn't enjoy.

Sex might be an issue though, I wouldn't take my kids into a movie that has a graphic sex scene until they are about 11, and after I have the infamous talk with them.
“Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” — Nazi Reich Marshal Hermann Goering
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Yeah, I pretty much agree with you, Ric. I wouldn't care if my kids saw violent movies. If, however, they ended up having nightmares or it scared the ever-loving crap out of them, I wouldn't let them see any more for a while. As for sex, well, as long as sex isn't the main theme of the movie, I probably wouldn't mind too much if they were really little, and it had one mild sex scene it, because, really, if they're extremely young, it will go right over their heads, and they'll have no idea what they just saw. If it was graphic sex with nudity, well, that would be a no-no.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I have to agree with gaffer
"A Jedi can feel the force flow through him".
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Thank you.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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I'm sure you'll make a good father.
"A Jedi can feel the force flow through him".
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Originally posted by: ricarleite
Originally posted by: Bossk
Wait. Wait. Wait.

You mean there are actually parents who deny their kids the chance to see PG-13 fare?!?! And here I am constantly seeing parents escort their six-year-old kids into R-rated sex romps like Whipped and blood fests like Kill Bill.


If God ever makes the horrible mistake of allowing me to have kids, I would try to refrain them to watch movies that would bore them or they wouldn't understand, and I wouldn't be concerned on violence or nudity. I would take them into a violent movie or a movie that features nudity or profanity, but I wouldn't take them to see an art film or something like "Waking Life" or "Touch of Evil", stuff they wouldn't enjoy.

Sex might be an issue though, I wouldn't take my kids into a movie that has a graphic sex scene until they are about 11, and after I have the infamous talk with them.


I KNOW A PARENT WHO WOULDN'T TAKE HIS KIDS TO SEE ROTS BECAUSE OF THE PG-13 RATING. I HELP THE KIDS OUT BY TELLING THEIR DAD JUST WHAT GAVE THE MOVIE THE PG-13 RATING. HE THEN WENT TO SEE IT ON HIS OWN, AND HE THEN TOOK HIS KIDS TO SEE THE MOVIE.

I'M AT THE POINT WITH MY KIDS (KIONA-7 AND HARRISON-2) THAT I HAVE TO MONITOR WHAT THEY WATCH AND LISTEN TO MUSIC WISE. MUSIC IS ACTUALLY HARDER TO MONITOR WHEREAS TV AND MOVIES AREN'T AS BAD. GENERALLY I WATCH THE MOVIE BEFORE MY KIDS DO OR I'LL WATCH THE SHOWS WITH THEM. MY KIDS HERE CUSSING AT HOME JUST AS MUCH AS IN THE MOVIES, SO THAT'S NOT AN ISSUE. THEY KNOW NOT TO USE THE "BAD WORDS."

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Don't we all hate remakes and/or pointless, crappy sequels?
I'd like a qui-gon jinn please with an Obi-Wan to go.

Red heads ROCK. Blondes do not rock. Nuff said.

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Originally posted by: Han Solo VS Indiana Jones
Don't we all hate remakes and/or pointless, crappy sequels?


I REALLY hate those! Good call!
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tsk tsk

all for that money
"A Jedi can feel the force flow through him".
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Either that, or movies based on books or games. Whatever happened to original movie concepts? Then again, I'd rather see a movie based on the "Sin City" comic than an original movie like "Stealth". Blech.

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Well, I thought Sin City the film was WAY overdone, but I know what you mean.

Still, there are some good original movies, or so I've heard. The Island and Sky High come to mind right now.

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Sky High?! I admit I don't have much to go on, but that movie looks pretty crappy to me, ranking up there right around Baby Geniuses and Spy Kids.

There is no lingerie in space…

C3PX said: Gaffer is like that hot girl in high school that you think you have a chance with even though she is way out of your league because she is sweet and not a stuck up bitch who pretends you don’t exist… then one day you spot her making out with some skinny twerp, only on second glance you realize it is the goth girl who always sits in the back of class; at that moment it dawns on you why she is never seen hanging off the arm of any of the jocks… and you realize, damn, she really is unobtainable after all. Not that that is going to stop you from dreaming… Only in this case, Gaffer is actually a guy.

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Well, Spy Kids and Baby Geniuses were really bad, and I've not atually seen Sky High, but all the reviews I've seen say it's pretty good.

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Spy Kids 3D was apalling
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whoo hoo
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The only good thing I can see about Sky High is the fact that Bruce Campbell is in it. Other than that, it's more than likely a waste of 2 hours.


Bruce Campbell rules.

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Well, evne if you don't care to see Sky High, there is always the Island. Sessler said it was good.

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