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The Sad State Of Star Wars — Page 3
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Originally posted by: battlewars
maybe lucas shouldnt have made the prequels if he didnt want to be defined by it. it seems to me he ended up doing the prequels just for the money despite what he has said to the contrary.
I don't think this was primarily about money. In my view today it must have been George Lucas wanting to experiment with his ideas of an entirely digital filmproduction and moving further towards the goal to create a method of filmmaking that enables "the average guy with cool ideas" to just realise his ideas - without being dependant on high budgets, quirky actors and rebellious directors. The only economically viable way to do this and get enough attention drawn on his methods of filmmaking again was utilizing the StarWars franchise.maybe lucas shouldnt have made the prequels if he didnt want to be defined by it. it seems to me he ended up doing the prequels just for the money despite what he has said to the contrary.
All he wanted was toying with new technology and pushing the envelope on that as much as possible - to me proof of this can be found in any "making of" on the prequel DVDs. His focus always seems to have been on to be able to be virtually barrier free in the terms of were you want the action to take place, to remove the complexity of the film-making process.
Eventually he also wanted to proove that he can create a StarWars trilogy with him at the helms of every relevant aspect of it's creaton and still be successful. And if it was meant as a "finger" it isn't directed at the fans, but moreso at the people who - from his point of view - caused him grief during the production of the original trilogy. He told the parts of the story he wanted to add and filled up the rest with "roller coaster material" he felt people would enjoy.
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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
All he wanted was toying with new technology and pushing the envelope on that as much as possible - to me proof of this can be found in any "making of" on the prequel DVDs. His focus always seems to have been on to be able to be virtually barrier free in the terms of were you want the action to take place, to remove the complexity of the film-making process.
Eventually he also wanted to proove that he can create a StarWars trilogy with him at the helms of every relevant aspect of it's creaton and still be successful. And if it was meant as a "finger" it isn't directed at the fans, but moreso at the people who - from his point of view - caused him grief during the production of the original trilogy. He told the parts of the story he wanted to add and filled up the rest with "roller coaster material" he felt people would enjoy.
just as pointless a reasonOriginally posted by: battlewars
maybe lucas shouldnt have made the prequels if he didnt want to be defined by it. it seems to me he ended up doing the prequels just for the money despite what he has said to the contrary.
I don't think this was primarily about money. In my view today it must have been George Lucas wanting to experiment with his ideas of an entirely digital filmproduction and moving further towards the goal to create a method of filmmaking that enables "the average guy with cool ideas" to just realise his ideas - without being dependant on high budgets, quirky actors and rebellious directors. The only economically viable way to do this and get enough attention drawn on his methods of filmmaking again was utilizing the StarWars franchise.maybe lucas shouldnt have made the prequels if he didnt want to be defined by it. it seems to me he ended up doing the prequels just for the money despite what he has said to the contrary.
All he wanted was toying with new technology and pushing the envelope on that as much as possible - to me proof of this can be found in any "making of" on the prequel DVDs. His focus always seems to have been on to be able to be virtually barrier free in the terms of were you want the action to take place, to remove the complexity of the film-making process.
Eventually he also wanted to proove that he can create a StarWars trilogy with him at the helms of every relevant aspect of it's creaton and still be successful. And if it was meant as a "finger" it isn't directed at the fans, but moreso at the people who - from his point of view - caused him grief during the production of the original trilogy. He told the parts of the story he wanted to add and filled up the rest with "roller coaster material" he felt people would enjoy.
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Originally posted by: battlewars
just as pointless a reason
Well, what would be an acceptable reason to you?just as pointless a reason
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But I think most of us could agree that Lucas' thinking is definitely a bit off center.
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Originally posted by: Master Sifo-Dyas
Originally posted by: battlewars
just as pointless a reason
Well, what would be an acceptable reason to you? just as pointless a reason
aka "Well, what would you like?"
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Originally posted by: kev
EU is worthless anyway. It doesn't even have to do with anything. Star Wars is the films only
EU is worthless anyway. It doesn't even have to do with anything. Star Wars is the films only
I agree. I don't waste my time with the EU. I mean, if it floats your boat, go for it, but I don't subscribe to it.
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http://www.starwars.com/welcome/about/news/f20051223/indexp8.html
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Sure, there were some who weren't wholly pleased -- no movie has managed to unanimously please so broad an audience as Star Wars fans -- but the overwhelming response was overwhelmingly positive. Even jaded movie critics who didn't get the previous prequels were won back by the epic tragedy of Episode III.
1. They used "overwhelming" twice in the same sentence.
2. Those dirty ol' critics just didn't "get" the other prequels!
3. The "epic tragedy" of Episode III. Ya know, I believe my English teacher defined Shakespeare's Macbeth as an epic tragedy. I can think of a lot of words to describe Episode III, but "epic tragedy" is not among them.
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Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Seriously, what's so bad about the EU? Why do some consider it such a waste of time? The same could be easily said about the films.
Seriously, what's so bad about the EU? Why do some consider it such a waste of time? The same could be easily said about the films.
Excellent, and very true. Two hours with a good Star Wars book (or game, or score) is time better spent than two hours with TPM or AotC. (YMMV.)
Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived.
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the thing that i liked 10 years ago, is that everything related SW was cool and top quality (the role playing games, dark forces, jedi knight, x wing alliance, the art of SW books....); there was only 3 movies in one form, the products were rare but cool (well maybe except for the SW figures on steroids!), when you met someone who was a SW fan it was like some kind of brotherhood: "you like SW? you're cool!" now it's more like: "you like SW? even the PT?...."
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Originally posted by: Scruffy
And most Star Wars novels are written by people who can actually write.
Originally posted by: grifter
now it's more like: "you like SW? even the PT?...."
Originally posted by: Adamwankenobi
Seriously, what's so bad about the EU? Why do some consider it such a waste of time? The same could be easily said about the films.
Excellent, and very true. Two hours with a good Star Wars book (or game, or score) is time better spent than two hours with TPM or AotC. (YMMV.)
Seriously, what's so bad about the EU? Why do some consider it such a waste of time? The same could be easily said about the films.
Excellent, and very true. Two hours with a good Star Wars book (or game, or score) is time better spent than two hours with TPM or AotC. (YMMV.)
And most Star Wars novels are written by people who can actually write.
Originally posted by: grifter
now it's more like: "you like SW? even the PT?...."
I gotta admit that's true.
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Originally posted by: Nanner Split
Overwhelmingly, sure, there were some who weren't overwhelmingly pleased -- no movie has overwhelmingly managed to overwhelmingly please such an overwhelmingly wide audience as Star Wars fans -- but the overwhelming response was overwhelmingly positive. Even jaded movie critics who didn't overwhelmingly get the previous prequels were overwhelmingly won back by the overwhelmingly epic tragedy of Episode III. Overwhelmingly.
Overwhelmingly, sure, there were some who weren't overwhelmingly pleased -- no movie has overwhelmingly managed to overwhelmingly please such an overwhelmingly wide audience as Star Wars fans -- but the overwhelming response was overwhelmingly positive. Even jaded movie critics who didn't overwhelmingly get the previous prequels were overwhelmingly won back by the overwhelmingly epic tragedy of Episode III. Overwhelmingly.
There you go. Fixed it for ya'.
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Originally posted by: grifter
the thing that i liked 10 years ago, is that everything related SW was cool and top quality (the role playing games, dark forces, jedi knight, x wing alliance, the art of SW books....); there was only 3 movies in one form, the products were rare but cool (well maybe except for the SW figures on steroids!), when you met someone who was a SW fan it was like some kind of brotherhood: "you like SW? you're cool!" now it's more like: "you like SW? even the PT?...."
thats exactly how i feel about it the thing that i liked 10 years ago, is that everything related SW was cool and top quality (the role playing games, dark forces, jedi knight, x wing alliance, the art of SW books....); there was only 3 movies in one form, the products were rare but cool (well maybe except for the SW figures on steroids!), when you met someone who was a SW fan it was like some kind of brotherhood: "you like SW? you're cool!" now it's more like: "you like SW? even the PT?...."