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Personally I’d like to see the first RO one (coming in through the clouds) with the TIEs. I like what poppa did with the Swedish forest footage but I dunno to me the shot still doesn’t quite match either the Mustafar we know or the one we see in TROS.

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poppasketti said:

Here’s Kylo’s tie replacement on Exogol:
https://vimeo.com/420155526
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I went with the shuttle (sorry Chase Adams!) as that’s what Hal had wanted to see. The ship is still a little floaty; the track on that shot is near impossible, so it will need more refinement. I tried three different After Effects trackers and Mocha and still have to do much of it manually because of all that darn lightning and haze!

Amazing. Although I liked the TIE Advance idea, I’m just so happy with it not being a standard TIE!

Now if you could just find a way to fix the fact that Kylo coincidently happens to have two unique Tie Whispers and that the wayfinder was in the first one that crashed on Pasaana 😛

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DominicCobb said:

Personally I’d like to see the first RO one (coming in through the clouds) with the TIEs. I like what poppa did with the Swedish forest footage but I dunno to me the shot still doesn’t quite match either the Mustafar we know or the one we see in TROS.

This is a good idea too!

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Wonderful, poppasketti, thanks for doing that! The shot is very shaky but it looks perfectly fine to me, so whenever you have it to your satisfaction I’ll be happy to bake it in.

Good point about Kylo having two TIEs and presumably should have lost the Wayfinder in the first. I guess if he survived he saved it along with himself. But yeah. lol

Mustafar, Mustafar, Mustafar… we’re all split on it, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see eventual edits featuring all three main approaches. Currently I’m leaning toward keeping the scene more or less as is, with an establishing shot to buffer, and adding “Find me” to allow for a hint of what is to come and not require name dropping Palpatine in the crawl.

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Hal 9000 said:

Wonderful, poppasketti, thanks for doing that! The shot is very shaky but it looks perfectly fine to me, so whenever you have it to your satisfaction I’ll be happy to bake it in.

Good point about Kylo having two TIEs and presumably should have lost the Wayfinder in the first. I guess if he survived he saved it along with himself. But yeah. lol

Mustafar, Mustafar, Mustafar… we’re all split on it, and I wouldn’t be surprised to see eventual edits featuring all three main approaches. Currently I’m leaning toward keeping the scene more or less as is, with an establishing shot to buffer, and adding “Find me” to allow for a hint of what is to come and not require name dropping Palpatine in the crawl.

I think I like this idea the best… I don’t know I just think it’s cool they put a Prequel planet in… even if it is massively different from it’s first appearance.

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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Many don’t like the Lightspeed skipping and that Tie Fighters can jump to lightspeed, too. So, they can miniaturized deathstar technology in all star destroyer, but can not upgrade the Tie Fighters? Nobody in the Movie say it, that the tie’s was upgraded, but they are Now. They Fly Now. 😉

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That’s an interesting structure, I will look forward to seeing it in action. Hard to assess on paper.

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Here is a rough markup of my restructure idea, audio and video needs work but I don’t think this is anything that the amazing team of editors here cannot accomplish. I do think the first shot of the Falcon flying by can be cleaned up a lot (looking at you @poppasketti haha). But overall, I feel like this structure allows for a better crawl on the state of the galaxy, not as fast of pacing at the start, and allows for the Mustafar scene to stay in. I wouldn’t also mind switching up Rey’s vision to eliminate Kylo, but that allows him to communicate with the Vader mask before the Mustafar and Palpatine scenes. Let me know your thoughts on this!

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The Skywalker Saga Viewing Order:
I: C.O.D. | II: T.A.S. | III: L.O.E.
IV: Revisited | V: Revisited | VI: Revisited
VII: Restructured | VIII: Rekindled | IX: Ascendant

This is the way.

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DZ-330 said:

Here is a rough markup of my restructure idea, audio and video needs work but I don’t think this is anything that the amazing team of editors here cannot accomplish. I do think the first shot of the Falcon flying by can be cleaned up a lot (looking at you @poppasketti haha). But overall, I feel like this structure allows for a better crawl on the state of the galaxy, not as fast of pacing at the start, and allows for the Mustafar scene to stay in. I wouldn’t also mind switching up Rey’s vision to eliminate Kylo, but that allows him to communicate with the Vader mask before the Mustafar and Palpatine scenes. Let me know your thoughts on this!

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It’s definitely an interesting structure. I like how it does offer a possible solution to our Mustafar problems and I think eliminating Kylo from the vision sequence would work simply because Dom’s vision sequence makes use of that footage anyways. One thing that I did notice is how would Boolio give the Resistance information about Palpatine, if Kylo hasn’t meet with him yet?

Edit: Also, really love the crawl, nice work

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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The info is not about Palps, it’s can be about rumors of a hidden Imperial fleet. Or whatever else. Do we ever really see any messages in Star Wars except for Leia’s original one? 😉

To me that scene has always felt like it has been there to establish Hux’s role in the film.

Opening with the secret message scene is very reminding of a James Bond opening where we see him on the end of a different mission

The Skywalker Saga Viewing Order:
I: C.O.D. | II: T.A.S. | III: L.O.E.
IV: Revisited | V: Revisited | VI: Revisited
VII: Restructured | VIII: Rekindled | IX: Ascendant

This is the way.

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DZ-330 said:

The info is not about Palps, it’s can be about rumors of a hidden Imperial fleet. Or whatever else. Do we ever really see any messages in Star Wars except for Leia’s original one? 😉

To me that scene has always felt like it has been there to establish Hux’s role in the film.

Opening with the secret message scene is very reminding of a James Bond opening where we see him on the end of a different mission

The only thing about that though is that when Poe and crew get back that’s what sets off the mission to find the Wayfinder. Poe gathers everyone together and says “I don’t know how, but Palpatine has returned…” and we get the weird line about “dark science, cloning… secrets only the Sith knew” etc. Would you cut around these lines in this scene too?

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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Damn it you’re right. I swear this movie is impossible to work with. Unless we cut out that it WAS the message. We could assume that they heard Palpatine’s broadcast. As much as Hal said he isn’t going to put that in the movie I feel it is almost too essential to not include.

The Skywalker Saga Viewing Order:
I: C.O.D. | II: T.A.S. | III: L.O.E.
IV: Revisited | V: Revisited | VI: Revisited
VII: Restructured | VIII: Rekindled | IX: Ascendant

This is the way.

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DZ-330 said:

The info is not about Palps, it’s can be about rumors of a hidden Imperial fleet. Or whatever else. Do we ever really see any messages in Star Wars except for Leia’s original one? 😉

To me that scene has always felt like it has been there to establish Hux’s role in the film.

Opening with the secret message scene is very reminding of a James Bond opening where we see him on the end of a different mission

Maybe it could be the Fortnite message? Could play it at the Resistance meeting instead of Poe saying his “Somehow” line. Everyone can be shocked at the same time.

Anyways, I really like your mockup. During the vision sequence, I would take out Kylo’s helmet fondling and instead have the TLJ shot of him from behind on the Star Destroyer, and we don’t see his face. That way the true reveal of him for this movie is still on Mustafar.

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DZ-330 said:

Damn it you’re right. I swear this movie is impossible to work with. Unless we cut out that it WAS the message. We could assume that they heard Palpatine’s broadcast. As much as Hal said he isn’t going to put that in the movie I feel it is almost too essential to not include.

I feel you… this has been my issue too lol… Everytime you try to move a scene around, it requires another scene to function almost like it is intricately pieced together so editing out of order is difficult. It is a really nice introduction idea though, could still be used IMO

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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DominicCobb said:

Personally I’d like to see the first RO one (coming in through the clouds) with the TIEs. I like what poppa did with the Swedish forest footage but I dunno to me the shot still doesn’t quite match either the Mustafar we know or the one we see in TROS.

I agree this would be the best shot. Unfortunately, it’s also the most difficult to paint out the shuttle. I may be able to try that sometime, but I have a few things going on right now! Just in case, though, can someone send me the shot in prores (or something else sourced from the Blu-ray)?

Question: the shot through the clouds is very symmetrical and will definitely be recognizable no matter how you present it. Given that it’s not from a saga film I think it’s okay to be reused, but I wanted to check!

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If we could sandwich in a scene of palpatine’s broadcast in between rey asking what’s the message and the meeting it would work. Poe’s first line in that scene is “We’ve decoded the message, and it confirms the worst. Palpatine has returned.”

The Skywalker Saga Viewing Order:
I: C.O.D. | II: T.A.S. | III: L.O.E.
IV: Revisited | V: Revisited | VI: Revisited
VII: Restructured | VIII: Rekindled | IX: Ascendant

This is the way.

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majoras_wrath said:

DZ-330 said:

The info is not about Palps, it’s can be about rumors of a hidden Imperial fleet. Or whatever else. Do we ever really see any messages in Star Wars except for Leia’s original one? 😉

To me that scene has always felt like it has been there to establish Hux’s role in the film.

Opening with the secret message scene is very reminding of a James Bond opening where we see him on the end of a different mission

Maybe it could be the Fortnite message? Could play it at the Resistance meeting instead of Poe saying his “Somehow” line. Everyone can be shocked at the same time.

Anyways, I really like your mockup. During the vision sequence, I would take out Kylo’s helmet fondling and instead have the TLJ shot of him from behind on the Star Destroyer, and we don’t see his face. That way the true reveal of him for this movie is still on Mustafar.

Here’s a rough test I did a while a go for that. This version of the broadcast establishes that Palpatine orchestrated the events of the past 2 films so that the Republic would be destroyed and Luke would be out of the picture, leaving the seat of power empty for Palps to take, unopposed.
https://vimeo.com/404134108

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DZ-330 said:

“We’ve decoded the message, and it confirms the worst. Palpatine has returned.”

But why would they have to “decode” a message that everybody just heard in plain English?

I think some of these ideas being thrown around are better suited to Idir’s ideas thread. Much of this discussion about bringing in the message in completly newly created scenes doesn’t seem like something Hal is planning on pursuing.

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idir_hh said:

majoras_wrath said:

DZ-330 said:

The info is not about Palps, it’s can be about rumors of a hidden Imperial fleet. Or whatever else. Do we ever really see any messages in Star Wars except for Leia’s original one? 😉

To me that scene has always felt like it has been there to establish Hux’s role in the film.

Opening with the secret message scene is very reminding of a James Bond opening where we see him on the end of a different mission

Maybe it could be the Fortnite message? Could play it at the Resistance meeting instead of Poe saying his “Somehow” line. Everyone can be shocked at the same time.

Anyways, I really like your mockup. During the vision sequence, I would take out Kylo’s helmet fondling and instead have the TLJ shot of him from behind on the Star Destroyer, and we don’t see his face. That way the true reveal of him for this movie is still on Mustafar.

Here’s a rough test I did a while a go for that. This version of the broadcast establishes that Palpatine orchestrated the events of the past 2 films so that the Republic would be destroyed and Luke would be out of the picture, leaving the seat of power empty for Palps to take, unopposed.
https://vimeo.com/404134108

Ooooo that looks great! Obviously needs some work on the audio and editing, but I think it could work.

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idir_hh said:

majoras_wrath said:

DZ-330 said:

The info is not about Palps, it’s can be about rumors of a hidden Imperial fleet. Or whatever else. Do we ever really see any messages in Star Wars except for Leia’s original one? 😉

To me that scene has always felt like it has been there to establish Hux’s role in the film.

Opening with the secret message scene is very reminding of a James Bond opening where we see him on the end of a different mission

Maybe it could be the Fortnite message? Could play it at the Resistance meeting instead of Poe saying his “Somehow” line. Everyone can be shocked at the same time.

Anyways, I really like your mockup. During the vision sequence, I would take out Kylo’s helmet fondling and instead have the TLJ shot of him from behind on the Star Destroyer, and we don’t see his face. That way the true reveal of him for this movie is still on Mustafar.

Here’s a rough test I did a while a go for that. This version of the broadcast establishes that Palpatine orchestrated the events of the past 2 films so that the Republic would be destroyed and Luke would be out of the picture, leaving the seat of power empty for Palps to take, unopposed.
https://vimeo.com/404134108

I’ve seen this before on Youtube! I’ve always thought that this was a great edit and really the only pluasible way to incorporate the Fortnite message

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y