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My big problem with this whole idea is that it absolutely kills the fight scene. The big battle just screeches to a halt for a lengthy hallucination dream dialog where Kylo mid-combat is suddenly talked out of being evil with the same converaation that failed to work on him last time, and then just as suddenly unpauses again for more violence. It doesn’t flow well at all as a scene (scenes?), and imo make Kylo’s turn less believable because of how sudden it is in the middle of an unrelated event (in the original he has a near-death experience, and his mother’s death, and a last pleading by Rey, before then having some time to think about his life and make the decision). And all we gain from this change is to turn his memory of Han and inner-turmoil into a mind trick by Leia.

The idea is certainly intriguing, but I just don’t buy it when watching it, where as the original theatrical was a more powerful moment for me (as least, given the circumstances with zombie Carrie Fisher).

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Neerb said:

My big problem with this whole idea is that it absolutely kills the fight scene. The big battle just screeches to a halt for a lengthy hallucination dream dialog where Kylo mid-combat is suddenly talked out of being evil with the same converaation that failed to work on him last time, and then just as suddenly unpauses again for more violence. It doesn’t flow well at all as a scene (scenes?), and imo make Kylo’s turn less believable because of how sudden it is in the middle of an unrelated event (in the original he has a near-death experience, and his mother’s death, and a last pleading by Rey, before then having some time to think about his life and make the decision). And all we gain from this change is to turn his memory of Han and inner-turmoil into a mind trick by Leia.

The idea is certainly intriguing, but I just don’t buy it when watching it, where as the original theatrical was a more powerful moment for me (as least, given the circumstances with zombie Carrie Fisher).

That’s what I was kind of thinking while making it… I remember in the theater that this was one of the moments that really hit for me… also in the scene he mentions that his mother was gone, but obviously she wasn’t quite gone yet lol.

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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kewlfish said:

DarthYcey said:

https://vimeo.com/419416620
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I didn’t even see that you made your clip! Yours was way better than mine was!

Haha thanks. I’ve made a few versions today. Naturally there’s going to be some dissenting opinions but this arrangement makes the most sense to me personally, as I’ve explained in great detail.

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Yeah… as genuinely interesting as that is as an idea and a mock-up, I just don’t quite buy it. I’ll likely keep the Han scene more or less as is.

And poppasketti, I missed your TIE flyover before. Nice work! That’ll make excellent visual continuity between the pan down from the crawl to the planet surface, whether or not anything ends up being placed in between.

Removing some of the Final Order ships wasn’t really a serious idea. It does need to qualify as “the largest fleet the galaxy has ever known.” It’s silly to imagine the Emperor cackling, “Witness my fully armed forty-seven thousand star destroyers! You’ll never defeat that many star destroyers!” But, going to trouble to paint out some of them won’t really make anything any better.

nl0428’s mockup is what got me thinking about Kijimi today, incidentally.

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Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Rebellion has been kindled. To suffocate a growing uprising, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.

While Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training, General Leia Organa has dispatched her brave agents across the stars to unite the disparate worlds in the name of Resistance.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar, chasing whispers of a hidden power that would allow him to destroy any threat to his rule…

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Hal 9000 said:

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Rebellion has been kindled. To suffocate a growing uprising, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.

While Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training, General Leia Organa has dispatched her brave agents across the stars to unite the disparate worlds in the name of Resistance.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar, chasing whispers of a hidden power that would allow him to destroy any threat to his rule…

I like it! Great crawl and fits into that mid-70s word count.

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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Even when the baby sleeps well, leave it to something like my wife having hiccups to drive me here in the middle of the night.

I was perusing the review thread and saw a good point raised by NeverAr: Kylo shouldn’t have been able to take the TIE fighter from the Death Star II to Exogol, as ANH made clear that they do not have hyperdrives. Given that we see it for all of one shot, standing still, it should be feasible to replace with something else, like an Imperial shuttle or a TIE variant.

Then again, it doesn’t really make sense for Luke’s X-wing to be functional without serious work either. TLJ showed us he used part of a wing for a door. Lol, maybe for the few interior shots of the X-wing, it could be made to look gross and covered in moss.

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Isn’t is possible TIE’s got upgraded since ANH?

PT: CoD/TAS/TCW/FotR(NCC)
OT: Reimagined/Revisited/…
ST: Starlight/Rekindled/Resurgence

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Hal 9000 said:

Even when the baby sleeps well, leave it to something like my wife having hiccups to drive me here in the middle of the night.

Lol. I always forget that you’re living the family life. Don’t let this subpar movie ruin that for you.

I was perusing the review thread and saw a good point raised by NeverAr: Kylo shouldn’t have been able to take the TIE fighter from the Death Star II to Exogol, as ANH made clear that they do not have hyperdrives. Given that we see it for all of one shot, standing still, it should be feasible to replace with something else, like an Imperial shuttle or a TIE variant.

Believe it or not, Lucasfilm actually bullshitted their way out of this one.
In the novel, it is revealed that the TIE fighter Kylo used was an “experimental variant TIE with a prototype hyperdrive” or something like that.

It might be a cool idea despite that, to replace it with a model similar to Darth Vader’s TIE Advanced as that has a hyperdrive. Then it could be like Luke’s ship and Vader’s ship during the trench run.

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I was watching over the scene where Luke was raising the X-Wing out of the ocean… are there any plans to change the use of Yoda’s theme?

Like, I get what they were trying to do and The Force Suite is really overused in Star Wars, but it was Luke’s Original theme and it may suit better for that specific scene.

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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It might be a cool idea despite that, to replace it with a model similar to Darth Vader’s TIE Advanced as that has a hyperdrive. Then it could be like Luke’s ship and Vader’s ship during the trench run.

This is a great idea.

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Chase Adams said:

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Here’s the color-corrected alt take for “Rey Skywalker” from idir_hh (the alt shot is at about 20 seconds in).

https://vimeo.com/418315742
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idir sent the 1080p version, which is cropped heavily, so if anyone has the 4K please let me know! Otherwise we’ll have to fake it by adding grain.

Very nice, I should let everyone know that the audio Idir used was an ambient sound-mix created by myself which I will soon be remastering and sending to him since his copy was ripped straight from YouTube! Because of this, it means that the audio in Poppasketti’s clip is unfinished as of now.

Also, Poppasketti, have you made any more progress on the face-morphed “Just Rey” clip? That is the version I am keen on obtaining! 😄

Also, have any of you tried doing this whole scene with no music? I think it would be super interesting to see.

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Lifeincontext said:

Also, have any of you tried doing this whole scene with no music? I think it would be super interesting to see.

That is exactly what I was referring to. I already created a sound-mix of the whole scene without music. I am currently working on finishing a more polished verison of it. It will be available for everyone to download soon.

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I rescored Han Solo’s cameo / Ben Solo’s redemption to have a more Skywalker feel, did this back when the HDR released.

I used the theme from the Phantom Menace when Anakin is freed from Slavery, feels like a really beautiful call back and flows perfectly with this scene, especially being that Ben Solo is the last Skywalker it felt just right, the Saga begins with Anakin being freed to this track and now it ends with Ben Solo being freed from the darkside.

Rescore Test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQt906lt7-U

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f_ck! there is a lot of talent here !!! It is wonderful to see how we come together to make this stinky movie something more beautiful …
the truth is that at first I was hesitant to make edits about the work of someone like JJ abrams, who in my opinion is a great director (I loved the force awakens hahah, even star trek, without being a fan), and he wasn’t sure about doing VFX on his work out of respect, but F_ck, the last two star wars movies have been a mistake, and we’re doing a wonderful job! we deserve a better version of these movies hahahah, because we are fans from a very young age, and OT is our bible !!!
What I mean is that you are all wonderful, and you have very good ideas! we can rule the galaxy hahahahha, congratulations to all, you are all great

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It would be wonderful to see you all face to face one day, but I would not understand anything! I don’t speak english hahahah, without the google traductor hahhaha

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jonh said:

f_ck! there is a lot of talent here !!! It is wonderful to see how we come together to make this stinky movie something more beautiful …
the truth is that at first I was hesitant to make edits about the work of someone like JJ abrams, who in my opinion is a great director (I loved the force awakens hahah, even star trek, without being a fan), and he wasn’t sure about doing VFX on his work out of respect, but F_ck, the last two star wars movies have been a mistake, and we’re doing a wonderful job! we deserve a better version of these movies hahahah, because we are fans from a very young age, and OT is our bible !!!
What I mean is that you are all wonderful, and you have very good ideas! we can rule the galaxy hahahahha, congratulations to all, you are all great

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It would be wonderful to see you all face to face one day, but I would not understand anything! I don’t speak english hahahah, without the google traductor hahhaha

Your force ghost clips are literally incredible… they must have taken ages to create. You are truly a master of your craft!

Clips - for Editors folder -https://drive.google.com/open?id=1mfEISVdMldOKuSNjcjYO2QSggvqI_7-Y

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Hal 9000 said:

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Rebellion has been kindled. To suffocate a growing uprising, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.

While Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training, General Leia Organa has dispatched her brave agents across the stars to unite the disparate worlds in the name of Resistance.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar, chasing whispers of a hidden power that would allow him to destroy any threat to his rule…

It keeps getting better and better. “… in the name of Resistance” may be slightly redundant with the first sentence. Wouldn’t necessarily start one paragraph with while and the next one with meanwhile. Overall the crawl is more well thought out than the one we got!

heil palpatine.

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I just realised!
If we assume that Leia force-projects an image of the late Han Solo to forgive Ben, does that mean that when Han says “Your mother’s gone, but what she stood for and what she fought for, that’s not gone” Leia is saying this about herself?!
Seriously, Leia… You seem to be a little full of yourself… 😉

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Hal 9000 said:

Episode IX
THE RISE OF SKYWALKER

Rebellion has been kindled. To suffocate a growing uprising, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.

While Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training, General Leia Organa has dispatched her brave agents across the stars to unite the disparate worlds in the name of Resistance.

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar, chasing whispers of a hidden power that would allow him to destroy any threat to his rule…

Resistance has been RE-kindled.

Resistance is the word that keeps it in keeping with the sequels, and it’s not that this is the first resistance.

To suffocate (STIFLE may allow a swifter sentence read and fits with the imagery) a growing uprising, the tyrannical First Order has silenced communication between neighboring systems.

While Rey, sole heir to the Jedi, continues her training, General Leia Organa has dispatched her brave agents across the stars to unite the disparate rebelling worlds.

Following a previous comment by Krausfadr, this reduces the redundancy. Also not sure about the word brave. It seems cheesy, and is a given considering the general feeling of suppression from the first paragraph. Then again, the theatrical used the word diabolical. Which made it feel a bit spoofish. Personally I would go with “dispatched agents”

Meanwhile, Supreme Leader Kylo Ren has traveled to Mustafar, chasing whispers of a hidden power that would allow him to destroy any threat to his rule…

I think the last section works

“It’s over anakin. I have the high ground.” After Darth Maul, Obi Wan should have known better.

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Early concept art of the finale 👀: https://mobile.twitter.com/PhilSzostak/status/1261017777608880128/photo/1

I think if we’re to have Kylo on Tatooine this would be a feasible way of doing it. We could have Kylo’s ship parked beside the homestead, creating anticipation for him to appear. This way you could get away with replacing the ghosts with Kylo. She looks to her right, smiles at kylo, he looks back at Rey, shot of Rey and Kylo silhouettes gazing at the twin suns, add the ghosts of Luke, Leia and Han for good measure.
Fin.

Edit: You could even have both the Falcon and Kylo’s ship take off towards the sunrise in separate ways.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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It’s a shame not to have seen Luke Han and Leia together …
Maybe we can break the rules, and since force is not something that belongs to the Jedi, perhaps force has adopted han, hahahah

love has united them to han and leia in life, why not in death?