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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released) — Page 417

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I don’t see how saying there were rumors that Palpatine wanted to cheat death means everyone in the OT knew he was a Sith.

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Palptine seems pretty giddy at the end about his Sithhood.

“Nothing will stop the (secret) return of the Sith!”

To be fair, he was like that in ROTS too.

I think the line in question takes place as the character is offscreen or in the extreme background, right?

I guess this movie makes it ‘canon’ that there were always rumors he wanted to cheat death, eh?

My stance on revising fan edits.

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jarbear said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I’m going to take a look at the audio in that scene to see if Merry’s background speech could be removed without deleting the actual visuals.

oooh, that would be nice.

Or you can include a line that he likes DeadPool who breaks the 4th wall.

Am I right?

I’ll see myself out.

“There were always whispers that we are actually in a world that revolves entirely around Skywalkers and Palpatines.”

https://youtu.be/gKppwACQ-qk

Anyways, I took a peak at the 5.1 audio and it looks like Merry’s dialogue appears in 2 of them. 1 of them can easily be removed to make it quieter, but the other has Rey’s movements attached. So more work would need to be done to make it perfect.

And Burbin, it’s problematic because it suggests that Palpatine has otherworldly powers. In actuality, most people would assume he was a normal dude from Naboo (at least until after ROTJ). Thus why the Final Order would put a Sith Empire in place, not a normal Empire.

In ROTS he was still hiding his abilities. Nobody saw the battle between him and Yoda except us.

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I’m going to play Devil’s Advocate concerning The Hobbit’s line in that he IS supposed to be the Big History Boy according to the TROS Visual Dictionary and the book states (and I quote): “Even now, most galactic citizens have no idea that Emperor Palpatine was the last known and prominent Sith adherent, though those in Resistance circles are more likely to be aware.”

So, Jar Jar does have a point about how most people probably didn’t know Palpatine had a hunger to cheat death. However, there is at least a canon precedence to keep the line as it is seeing that The Hobbit may very well have just been talking about the Resistance and himself rather than the Galaxy as a whole.

Anyways, to talk about the edit itself, I also agree that just completely cutting the scene is way too abrupt. If there’s any work to be done, it would have to be effects wise in order to remove the lightsaber. And yet again… this whole tangent is really more appropriate in another thread (like, were we really talking about ANH in this thread of all places? Come on, guys.)

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I mean, it kinda makes sense there would be rumors that the old decrepit guy that has the rule over the whole galaxy with an iron grip might be seeking to prolong his dictatorship indefinitely.

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Burbin said:

I mean, it kinda makes sense there would be rumors that the old decrepit guy that has the rule over the whole galaxy with an iron grip might be seeking to prolong his dictatorship indefinitely.

Ah, yes, just like every other real world dictator, everybody feared that the individual would soon discover the secret to immortality.

I joke, of course.

And yes, the cut is too quick. I see two options right now: figure out a way to completely remove Rey grabbing the book, or remove Merry’s line that is off in the background. Because the way it is worded implies to me at least that he is taking about the galaxy at large, not just the Resistance.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

And yes, the cut is too quick. I see two options right now: figure out a way to completely remove Rey grabbing the book, or remove Merry’s line that is off in the background. Because the way it is worded implies to me at least that he is taking about the galaxy at large, not just the Resistance.

Honestly, if you just cut the whole “Rey retrieving the book” part and just cut from her leaving to Poe and Leia talking, then have her show back up with the book, it could possibly be seamless.

However, I can’t really say for sure without having the footage in front of me. Maybe someone can have a go at it?

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BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

And yes, the cut is too quick. I see two options right now: figure out a way to completely remove Rey grabbing the book, or remove Merry’s line that is off in the background. Because the way it is worded implies to me at least that he is taking about the galaxy at large, not just the Resistance.

Honestly, if you just cut the whole “Rey retrieving the book” part and just cut from her leaving to Poe and Leia talking, then have her show back up with the book, it could possibly be seamless.

However, I can’t really say for sure without having the footage in front of me. Maybe someone can have a go at it?

I can absolutely create that visually, but it isn’t going to have sound. The problem is that there isn’t enough space for the first half of Poe’s line to play because most of it happens off screen when Rey is grabbing the book.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I can absolutely create that visually, but it isn’t going to have sound. The problem is that there isn’t enough space for the first half of Poe’s line to play because most of it happens off screen when Rey is grabbing the book.

Dang. Well, we’ll just have to figure out something in regards to that.

I think this would be the best possible route to take if we’re really considering cutting out The Hobbit’s line (which I don’t think is necessary but I understand why people would take umbrage with it)

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BrotherOfSasquatch said:

Jar Jar Bricks said:

I can absolutely create that visually, but it isn’t going to have sound. The problem is that there isn’t enough space for the first half of Poe’s line to play because most of it happens off screen when Rey is grabbing the book.

I think this would be the best possible route to take if we’re really considering cutting out The Hobbit’s line (which I don’t think is necessary but I understand why people would take umbrage with it)

That is actually a completely different issue that I didn’t even notice until messing with this scene. The primary purpose of this would be to fix the lightsaber continuity issue.

Here’s another continuity issue: Rey leaves the books lying on some crates when the Falcon arrives. When she returns to get them, they are suddenly in the box? What is wrong with this tiny scene LMAO.

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Sorry for the double comment. Here is the visuals without the audio. Can you tell where the cut is?

https://youtu.be/O02jz6fZs4E

If anybody is really good at working with audio this might be possible. I believe 3PO’s line would need to be pushed over a bit (since his lips don’t move).

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Hal’s already said he doesn’t mind the line or the continuity error so I don’t see a reason to continue this topic here.

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DominicCobb said:

This thread is aging me rapidly.

Looks like someone needs a Dyad to restore the one true DominicCobb. 😉

(Or maybe just some time away from this thread. That may also work.)

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Burbin said:

Hal’s already said he doesn’t mind the line or the continuity error so I don’t see a reason to continue this topic here.

He hasn’t commented on the second continuity error yet.

Might have missed it, but where did he say the line was ok?

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Burbin said:

Hal’s already said he doesn’t mind the line or the continuity error so I don’t see a reason to continue this topic here.

Yes, I don’t plan to remove the little cutaway or line so let’s move this over to the main thread please.

JEDIT: To be clear, I will see if a simple crop can remove the saber from the shot. If not, oh well.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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So, to change the subject from the hostilities that are occurring today, I was telling a friend of mine about this edit and shared it with him. As I did so, I went ahead and went over the changes that occurred with V1.

And guys… I’m getting so excited for V2 and the potential Rey Nobody version. The work that has been done on this and is still being done on it is absolutely amazing. And even though I wasn’t here from the beginning, I’m so amazed to at least be a small apart of this project and this community.

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Hal 9000 said:

Burbin said:

Hal’s already said he doesn’t mind the line or the continuity error so I don’t see a reason to continue this topic here.

JEDIT: To be clear, I will see if a simple crop can remove the saber from the shot. If not, oh well.

Cool. Could you send whatever you come up with my way even if you decide not to use it? The crop feature on my editing software is terrible. Doesn’t let you select precise number amounts.

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DZ-330 said:

Not sure if this is something to be discussed in this thread, but has anyone found a good way to remove Rey healing the worm? I think it works better for the story if the only “force healing” is a result of the Dyad between Rey and Ben.

For the sake of the whole saga, it just opens up WAY too many questions. Maybe it can be adjusted for for the worm creature to be scared of her darkness or something along those lines.

It’s already inferable that only dyads can use Force healing. Think about it, the dyad is treated as super special, we’ve only seen Rey and Ben, both part of the dyad, use Force healing, and there was no indication that any other Jedi or Sith was part of a dyad.

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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Hal 9000 said:

Burbin said:

Hal’s already said he doesn’t mind the line or the continuity error so I don’t see a reason to continue this topic here.

JEDIT: To be clear, I will see if a simple crop can remove the saber from the shot. If not, oh well.

Cool. Could you send whatever you come up with my way even if you decide not to use it? The crop feature on my editing software is terrible. Doesn’t let you select precise number amounts.

Sure, if it seems halfway decent but I decide not to go with it for whatever reason.

My stance on revising fan edits.

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TestingOutTheTest said:

It’s already inferable that only dyads can use Force healing. Think about it, the dyad is treated as super special, we’ve only seen Rey and Ben, both part of the dyad, use Force healing, and there was no indication that any other Jedi or Sith was part of a dyad.

Baby Yoda uses it in The Mandalorian. He’s not a Dyad and it takes place years before TROS.

😉

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We’re talking about the movies alone, and even then Grogu’s use of Force healing is different, he just removes the venom from the dude and he passes out.

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TestingOutTheTest said:

We’re talking about the movies alone, and even then Grogu’s use of Force healing is different, he just removes the venom from the dude and he passes out.

Well, I hate to break it to you but it’s all a part of the same continuity and is canon.