I can try that whenever I get more time, but know that it’s a short shot.
Here’s a test for the Sith whisper thing. At least the first chunk of it. It’s unfortunately a little cramped since there’s no extra footage to work with and the arrival of the riders comes up suddenly.
Nice cut. I also took out Rey saying “It’s a bad place…”. It’s called THE DEATHSTAR! It’s hardly gonna be full of Bunnies and Candy haha.
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Here’s a test for the Sith whisper thing. At least the first chunk of it. It’s unfortunately a little cramped since there’s no extra footage to work with and the arrival of the riders comes up suddenly.
I was legit working on this yesterday and ran out of time! Haha! I had something like that. It’s already better.
To help add some kind of breathing room before the rider’s appear, there is that shot of Rey looking at the DSII wreckage after she “pops out the pointer thing” and looks at the wreckage before she then raises up the blade. its about 2 seconds of footage.
With that idea, I would have the whispers be softer when she first looks at it, but then when we see her now look at the death start, the whispers are louder?
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
Here’s another test. I just dropped the whispers in, and I’d blend them in and adjust volume once we’re happy with placement. That extra shot helps a lot, actually. I can’t tell if the second whisper makes the cutaway to riders more abrupt, or if it is effective at implying the voices are guiding her into the DSII.
The second whisper is definitely an improvement! The ONE thing that could make this great (which may not work) is if you could smash cut to the throne for a split second, then a just-as-quick close-up of Rey’s face (if she has a surprised look anywhere during this scene that could be zoomed in on) and then the horses show up
That’s great. Hal! I like the second whisper. It implies that there’s some magic continuing to guide her and it’s not just an “aha evil thing!” moment in the score.
The second whisper is definitely an improvement! The ONE thing that could make this great (which may not work) is if you could smash cut to the throne for a split second, then a just-as-quick close-up of Rey’s face (if she has a surprised look anywhere during this scene that could be zoomed in on) and then the horses show up
If only. I can take a look again later but I really doubt it.
This was my SUPER rough idea with the Sith Whisper stuff I was working on:
https://vimeo.com/431017550
PW:fanedit
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
Here’s another test. I just dropped the whispers in, and I’d blend them in and adjust volume once we’re happy with placement. That extra shot helps a lot, actually. I can’t tell if the second whisper makes the cutaway to riders more abrupt, or if it is effective at implying the voices are guiding her into the DSII.
Looking good. Going off some of the other suggestions, what if while she’s looking out at the Death Star include cuts to the throne room, maybe throw in Vader’s breathing, the Emperor’s line from ROTJ “Fulfill your destiny,” and then re-use the shot of Rey looking down at the dagger. And then cut to the shot of the riders coming up, cut to Poe turning, Finn turning, and finally the shot of Jannah on horseback.
There isn’t usable footage for all that, and I don’t think adding more sound effects beyond the whispers would help.
There isn’t usable footage for all that, and I don’t think adding more sound effects beyond the whispers would help.
Watching the workprint something was off about Palpatine’s first line of ‘Find me’
You’re second whisper test was fine just needs to be more subtle and echo.
Would have been if Sith Troopers had clone voices
Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore
Here’s another test. I just dropped the whispers in, and I’d blend them in and adjust volume once we’re happy with placement. That extra shot helps a lot, actually. I can’t tell if the second whisper makes the cutaway to riders more abrupt, or if it is effective at implying the voices are guiding her into the DSII.
Oh my so good. Kill the McMuffin’s little McMuffin that leads to the other McMuffin!
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
There isn’t usable footage for all that, and I don’t think adding more sound effects beyond the whispers would help.
Watching the workprint something was off about Palpatine’s first line of ‘Find me’
Yeah, I lowered the volume substantially on it so it’s almost subliminal.
And yeah, I’m happy we could castrate the knife.
So to “finish” this concept of whispers is to have some of those whispers during Rey’s journey through the wreckage. She will need to have some guidance since there is no exact spot reveal now. Fortunately it’s a simple thing to add in. They can either get louder/more frequent/whatever as she gets close.
It’s also a good addition this route since how did try figure out how to get in the throne room exactly? It would have been so easy to get lost in there. Especially during the boat ride would get you a bit turned around and there was no guarantee of an opening right next to the throne room area.
So having those whispers while she is exploring/climbing also is a simple but effective way of being guided to it, again, relying on the dark side once again to make the struggle with the dark and light which kind of later reveals she may have gone through striking down Palps later in the movie if Ben wasn’t there.
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
So having those whispers while she is exploring/climbing also is a simple but effective way of being guided to it, again, relying on the dark side once again to make the struggle with the dark and light which kind of later reveals she may have gone through striking down Palps later in the movie if Ben wasn’t there.
This is so good!!
So having those whispers while she is exploring/climbing also is a simple but effective way of being guided to it, again, relying on the dark side once again to make the struggle with the dark and light which kind of later reveals she may have gone through striking down Palps later in the movie if Ben wasn’t there.
That’s a great idea. Nice!
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Interesting. I like the idea of the whispers slowly getting louder as she gets closer to the location of the wayfinder. It would be interesting if she heard whispers each time she picked it up, starting from the cave, then in Kylo’s chambers. That way the whispers are a mystery at first, then their purpose becomes more apparent once they arrive there. But at those points, and on the cliff side, it’s extremely subtle. And like jarbear said, as she is making her way through the wreckage, the whispers become louder.
It would be interesting if you got rid of the music that plays when she enters the Emperor’s throne room, and let the scene be propelled just by the whispers. Maybe they could become almost overwhelming until the point she touches it, and they suddenly stop. You have a beat of silence, and then Dark Rey surprises her.
Might be too much, but I definitely like the idea of the whispers become stronger/clearer as she gets closer to the wayfinder.
Lol I re read my comment and I am terrible at writing. Sorry if it’s not the clearest.
“Because you are a PalpaWalker?”
Rogue, that’s an idea that would definitely be worth experimenting with.
Peace is a lie
There is only passion…
Poppasketti sent me this link, but the whispers used don’t have to come from there.
Feel free to mock any of this up, as that sounds like some tricky audio work. One would have to re-foley the whole environment.
It sounds like it’d be pretty noisy to have increasing whispers. I imagine it being better to just have a few occasional whispers just enough to make the connection.
Knight of ren voice test (unedited)
Filmic Crossroads, Daniel L. Isidore
This was my SUPER rough idea with the Sith Whisper stuff I was working on:
https://vimeo.com/431017550
PW:fanedit
What’s the source for those whispers? They sound more similar to the ones Rey hears when the door opens in the DSII throne room. Not to mention that they are feminine, and better able to tap into her inner conflict.
Knight of ren voice test (unedited)
Nice test. I think there should be a slight pause after find her… just to break up the wording as it can sound a little muddy with the effect added.
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I think Luke’s line “because you’re a Palpatine” makes it worthwhile to retain Kylo’s line “You are a Palpatine.”
Kylo’s “You are a Palpatine.”
Every time i hear that line i cringe and die a little inside 😛