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The Rise Of Skywalker — Official Review and Opinions Thread — Page 34

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Nothing! I just went back in the thread and it seems pretty consistent with what I’m saying now? Basically - Abrams ruined his own film because he wouldn’t stop cutting it down.

The argument happening now seems to be that someone stepped in from above and forced him to ruin it, and I don’t agree with that. I understand the inclination to pursue that narrative, but I think there’s no reason to pursue it considering who Abrams is, what his filmography looks like, and the stories that have come out since Rise of Skywalker’s release.

If the film was “mucked with” it was mucked with by the director. He did the mucking on his own. Lemme see if I can find the exact quote from earlier in the thread that sums it up:

edit: here it is! This post - from January
https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1322580/action/topic#1322580

specifically, this bit: "I really think that’s the big lesson here. It’s not a story about corporate interference, or meddling bosses.

It’s the story of a couple guys, under the gun and on the clock, delivering sub-par work because their instincts are inherently bad. That’s it."

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Alright let me rephrase studio interference from meddling to pressure and see if we agree, in the same way that the studio put JJ under pressure in the first place with TFA to produce a script in 9 months after dropping Arndt (paraphrasing), JJ and co. were put under a similar level of pressure after Trevorrow was dropped along with his treatment, it’s a time crunch but also a creative decision. Not so much in the stereotypical way of taking some JJ master cut and unknown corporate hands chopping it to bits, but to your point JJ himself played ball in the mucking. Still it doesn’t take total conjecture to say looking at Disney’s track record you’ll find a fairly consistent hands-on approach. You can feel last minute changes in the movie just by watching it which I don’t find as consistent with JJ despite other films he’s made with arguably poor execution. Someone could possibly do a deep dive and piece together what happened behind the scenes and see where the ratio of blame lands, but probably nothing comprehensive for a few years, everyone involved keeping their cards close to the vest.

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idir_hh said:

The real question is, why not release the deleted scenes? The only other film in the franchise that has no deleted scenes with the BlueRay is Rogue One, and we all the story with that.

For the unenlightened, could you share the story? I didn’t like Rogue One so I haven’t paid much attention, but I’m interested in the production.

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Tony Gilroy replaced Gareth Edwards in reshooting more than a third of the film and altering the script, specifically the last act. Most of the deleted scenes wouldn’t have made sense if released since they were part of a different version of the film.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Star Wars movies seem to have a track record of majorly to completely restructuring the entire movie in post-production/reshoots going all the way back to AOTC.

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My final thoughts since I probably won’t watch this again… it’s actually good up to the Star Destroyer, in which you get “I’m the spy” and “you’re a Palpatine” and blah blah. After that the finale is so visually messy that I can’t really get into it just as an action scene. For its faults TLJ has very striking sequences at the end. This just made me tired.

Yub Nub for life

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Mocata said:

After that the finale is so visually messy that I can’t really get into it just as an action scene. For its faults TLJ has very striking sequences at the end. This just made me tired.

I like the colour blue slightly less after watching Rise of Skywalker. I agree, they overdid it.

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Honest question: are there any differences between the theatrical version and home video releases of TROS?

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ATMachine said:

Honest question: are there any differences between the theatrical version and home video releases of TROS?

Nope, none at all. It was the same with every other Disney Star Wars movie, except for TFA. That movie changed the music in the end credits, but that was the only change.

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I thought they might try to limit the lightning flashes and photo sensitive issues for home video, but from what i can tell the scene where Kylo goes to visit Palpatine is the same as in theaters.

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Watching today for the first time since the theater. I’m halfway through it, and honestly, once you accept the dumb premise and just try to roll with it, it’s just kind of… boring.

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I would put this in my sig if I weren’t so lazy.