Everytime I watch it, I can’t stop the excruciating thoughts of Hayden Christensen, the crappy acting, dialog, and poor CGI. Do any of you know a way to wipe the prequels from your memory? I was thinking about smoking plastic, I heard that is a good memory killer?
We must use hypnosis to revert your mind back to when you watched the prequels, so we can erase those horrid memories!
"Fuck you. All the star wars movies were excellent. none of them sucked. Also, revenge of the sith is the best."
- DarthZorgon (YouTube)
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Hmm, what is to keep me from going to a video store sometime, stumbling upon these, and thinking, "Whoa! Three new Star Wars movies?! I must have been living under a rock!", renting/buying the things, and starting the process all over again?
"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
Just completely disconnect yourself from anything new and Star Wars-related. It worked for me. The last new Star Wars thing I absorbed was Revenge of the Sith in theatres, which was nearly four years ago. Other than TMBTM's Star Wars Silent Film Edition edit, I haven't watched any of the prequels since then, just the OT. It's worked brilliantly for me, especially since I've only seen RotS once (seen the other two a handful of times each). I barely remember anything about them.
Hey, the series expands, so not everyone's going to like every part of it, that's all I can say. Immerse yourself in the parts you like instead of being stuck on the parts you hate.
The thing that works for me is to look at the PT as almost EU, so you can take it with a grain of salt and accept it or not. I still do watch them from time to time if they are on TV or whatever (except for AOTC, I H A T E that movie and can't even stand 5 min. of it) but I just dismiss the parts I don't agree with and that don't fit into my idea of what SW is all about.
ESHBG said:I still do watch them from time to time if they are on TV or whatever (except for AOTC, I H A T E that movie and can't even stand 5 min. of it)
Yeah, for some reason AOTC evokes a sort of gag reflex in me. I can't stand it at all.
I have kind of a weird relationaship with TPM though, to me it is kind of like that annoying younger brother. He constantly pisses you off and annoys you, you tell your friends you hate him and you wish he'd die, but then, deep down, there is some strong sense of fondness and love there too.
I can say I hate The Phantom Menace and I wouldn't be lying. But I actually really like it. I have even had the urge to consider sitting down and watching it again sometime over the last few months, that is more than I will ever be able to say about the other two.
Since ROTS has came out, I have not seen any Star Wars movie except for SW: Revisited, and even on that one I skipped around enough that I made it to the end in less than an hour. Nanner mentioned that ROTS came out nearly four years ago, kind of surprising to think about the fact that I have not seen any SW movie in over three years.
"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
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Nanner Split said:Just completely disconnect yourself from anything new and Star Wars-related. It worked for me. The last new Star Wars thing I absorbed was Revenge of the Sith in theatres, which was nearly four years ago. Other than TMBTM's Star Wars Silent Film Edition edit, I haven't watched any of the prequels since then, just the OT. It's worked brilliantly for me, especially since I've only seen RotS once (seen the other two a handful of times each). I barely remember anything about them.
This. Though, I don't know how you can wipe the memory from your mind. It's like the Holiday Special. Once you've seen it, the crappiness is burned into your brain forever.
I have mixed feelings about TPM too. It totally fails as a real Star wars movie, but it's much more human and sincere than the later two films and Liam Neeson is very good in it. It's closer to being Star Wars than the later two. The later two are just total shite.
Exactly.
"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
ESHBG said:The thing that works for me is to look at the PT as almost EU, so you can take it with a grain of salt and accept it or no.
These have been my exact thoughts on the prequels for a while now. They came to me a few months before ROTS came out and I got Labyrinth of Evil from the library. I was thinking "holy shit, this is by far the best Star Wars novel I've read." I'd been collecting the clone wars trade paperbacks over the previous year and a half, but after reading LoE I proceeded to get all six of the clone wars novels in paperback (had to wait until the summer for Jedi Trial) and read through just about all of them by the time May 19th rolled around.
An analogy came to me around that time.
I haven't read the Harry Potter books (seen the first four movies), but I imagine the way at least some of their fans must feel about the movies is the way at least some of the pre-'99 EU fans must feel about the prequels. I mean, one of my friends was pissed about the total lack of Jorus C'Boath and Spaarti cylinders and just about anything else mentioned about the Clone Wars before the PT came along. Even Maul's dual-bladed saber annoyed him because Exar Kun had already done that and to him it was basically GL going "Oh yea, I've got your Expanded Universe right here (makes hand gestures over crotch)."
What, exactly, would people have wanted in the PT?
DGC General X said:What, exactly, would people have wanted in the PT?
Plots that were much more in line w/ the OT, better stories, not as much of a connected universe (e.g. Chewie did not need to know Yoda, Anakin did not need to build C3PO...), things actually being explained, etc., etc., etc.
ESHBG said:DGC General X said:What, exactly, would people have wanted in the PT?
Plots that were much more in line w/ the OT, better stories, not as much of a connected universe (e.g. Chewie did not need to know Yoda, Anakin did not need to build C3PO...), things actually being explained, etc., etc., etc.
I always thought of the connected universe as one of the best parts of star wars, I mean the fate of a whole universe for 40+ years revolved around a small group of people. I just find it fascinating.
LordVader said:ESHBG said:DGC General X said:What, exactly, would people have wanted in the PT?
Plots that were much more in line w/ the OT, better stories, not as much of a connected universe (e.g. Chewie did not need to know Yoda, Anakin did not need to build C3PO...), things actually being explained, etc., etc., etc.
I always thought of the connected universe as one of the best parts of star wars, I mean the fate of a whole universe for 40+ years revolved around a small group of people. I just find it fascinating.
I have to agree completely. For me it was the writing, acting, and visual style that was mostly at fault in the PT.
Octorox said:LordVader said:ESHBG said:DGC General X said:What, exactly, would people have wanted in the PT?
Plots that were much more in line w/ the OT, better stories, not as much of a connected universe (e.g. Chewie did not need to know Yoda, Anakin did not need to build C3PO...), things actually being explained, etc., etc., etc.
I always thought of the connected universe as one of the best parts of star wars, I mean the fate of a whole universe for 40+ years revolved around a small group of people. I just find it fascinating.
I have to agree completely. For me it was the writing, acting, and visual style that was mostly at fault in the PT.
I thought it was completely contrived and asinine to have so many of the characters from the OT connect to the PT. Chewy knows Yoda? Anakin built C3Po? Boba was a clone of his father and he was the host of the clones used to make stormtroopers?!!! Baby greedo in TPM? C3Po spent years with the Lars on Tatoonie prior to ANH?!!! It goes on and on and on...
If the original versions are released, with their original look intact, I think it'll be surprising how easy it'll be to forget everything that came after.
It made the galaxy seem tiny. Like a neighborhood where everybody knows everybody. Quite the opposite of fascinating for me.
"Fuck you. All the star wars movies were excellent. none of them sucked. Also, revenge of the sith is the best."
- DarthZorgon (YouTube)
DarkFather said:It made the galaxy seem tiny. Like a neighborhood where everybody knows everybody. Quite the opposite of fascinating for me.
Agreed!
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DarkFather said:It made the galaxy seem tiny. Like a neighborhood where everybody knows everybody. Quite the opposite of fascinating for me.
Yeah! Dumbest thing ever.
A similar thing is how they set up the end of ROTS to match the beginning of ANH so much, like nothing changed in 20 years. Vader is already hanging out with Tarkin, C3PO and R2 are already on the Tantive IV ship which they were on in the beginning of ANH and Captain Antilles is already there. I mean, come on, let things develop a bit in 20 years. Makes things feel less real. Like the everybody knowing everybody thing, it leaves less room in the Star Wars universe.
write a replacement backstory for the OT, either on paper, or in your mind. Seriously,
because that's what I'm doing, and when I watch the Original trilogy, no thoughts of the "prequels" ever come to my mind:
I imagine Sebastian Shaw Behind Vader's Mask, I picture Luke and Leia's Mother as a Jackie-Kennedy type figure and not a selfish pu$$y whose husband was more important to her than her children,
and the force remains something fantastic and mystical, not a cheap freak of nature,
just as the force ghosts remain a spiritual afterlife, and not a cheap Jedi trick.
Vaderisnothayden said:DarkFather said:It made the galaxy seem tiny. Like a neighborhood where everybody knows everybody. Quite the opposite of fascinating for me.
Yeah! Dumbest thing ever.
A similar thing is how they set up the end of ROTS to match the beginning of ANH so much, like nothing changed in 20 years. Vader is already hanging out with Tarkin, C3PO and R2 are already on the Tantive IV ship which they were on in the beginning of ANH and Captain Antilles is already there. I mean, come on, let things develop a bit in 20 years. Makes things feel less real. Like the everybody knowing everybody thing, it leaves less room in the Star Wars universe.
Ha! I had never even thought of that before. I guess my brain has always been too numb after watching that awful movie to really think about it. We have all the other movies just a few years apart each, and the characters and circumstances change, or at least they are in different places from one film to the next. But you are right, at the end of ROTS every one is placed right where they are at the beginning of ANH. Only mystery left of this intertrilogy era is how Leia got from Alderaan to the Tantive IV.
For some reason I used to really like the Darkhorse Droids comic book series. Still one of my favorite bits of the EU, because it showed a totally different side of the SW universe. Never heard a peep about the Empire or the Rebellion or Tantooine or the Millenium Falcon or the Force. Instead you just get a look at the crazy mixed up galaxy through the eye of R2 and 3PO.
Like most comic books, Droids had a fan mail section at the back of each issue. One of the questions that a fan wrote in to ask about was Threepio's leg. All through the SW trilogy 3PO has one silver leg, this fan wrote in to ask if the reason for his mismatched leg would be addressed in the series, and their response was "no". Their reason was that the prequels were going to be coming eventually, and they didn't want to get in George's way, since he was more than likely going to be answering that himself. If only they'd have known that George had probably forgotten Threepio even had a mismatched leg (much like he'd forgotten Obi-Wan gave Luke Anakin's lightasabre), they wouldn't have had to worry about getting in his way. If only I'd have known that that stupid comic book series was going to be fifty times better than any of the prequels, I could have quit looking forward to it way back then.
"Every time Warb sighs, an angel falls into a vat of mapel syrup." - Gaffer Tape
Guys guys guys, haven't ANY of you read the original shooting scripts for the prequels? All the ships are equipped with Infinite Improbability Drives, a la "Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy", which is why the same handful of characters keep meeting up again and again. Duh.