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I already like many of the ideas for this edit… Peronally I only use Sony Vegas, so that’s not enough to make radical changes other than color correction and new music tracks.

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

To be fair it’s obvious that his face was inserted onto a random Jedi

To be fair, there is only so much you can do.

Yes, but if that is the case you might want to ask if you can pull it off or if it is even needed. I’m always wary of the “to be fair” defenses when a shot can’t be pulled off. I tried to do a force vision reusing footage and many in the community let me know it didn’t hold up, so I eventually axed it because I didn’t have the skills to pull it off at that time. One problem I have with the prequels is that they show way too much and over explain themselves. I’d have to agree that the current scenes are noticeable at the moment and I view it as a workprint/proof of concept. Hope you can pull it off.

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IlFanEditore said:

I already like many of the ideas for this edit… Peronally I only use Sony Vegas, so that’s not enough to make radical changes other than color correction and new music tracks.

I use after effects for the vfx and Davinci Resolve for editing. There are other programs that work with after effects to do 3d models that i need to get into. After Effects is really cool and if your familiar with photoshop, it’s an easy leap. Also a lot of tutorial videos out there for after effects.

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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DigMod said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

To be fair it’s obvious that his face was inserted onto a random Jedi

To be fair, there is only so much you can do.

Yes, but if that is the case you might want to ask if you can pull it off or if it is even needed. I’m always wary of the “to be fair” defenses when a shot can’t be pulled off. I tried to do a force vision reusing footage and many in the community let me know it didn’t hold up, so I eventually axed it because I didn’t have the skills to pull it off at that time. One problem I have with the prequels is that they show way too much and over explain themselves. I’d have to agree that the current scenes are noticeable at the moment and I view it as a workprint/proof of concept. Hope you can pull it off.

I completely agree. If they can’t be pulled off, then they shouldn’t be done. Definitely all a work print, nothing you are seeing is done. So hopefully i can figure out a way to pull it off in a way that satisfies. Would be a nice scene. I also agree about the prequels over explaining them selves and trying to fix some of that. There are some shots from the attack of Naboo that will be tricky to pull off too. I didn’t even include them all in the trailer. There are a few ambitious shots id like to try and pull off, like maybe a scene of Maul on Mustafar or some similar dark planet as his first establishing shot. I don’t expect to be done though for another year or two so there is time to learn and try things. Rotoscoping is by far the longest process, and there is alottttt of rotoscoping to pull off what i want.

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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I have some questions, please.

  1. Will there be a version with the original lightsaber colors? Like having Obi-Wan’s remain blue and not green, for example?

  2. I know this is YOUR edit, and I don’t want to sound controversial, but would it be possible to have a version of the PT Revised that includes the parts about Midichlorians? Because personally, I have no problem with them.

  3. What kind of alien/droid voice dubbing will be done?

  4. What scenes are you planning to cut out completely?

  5. How are you going to make the DVD deleted scenes look more presentable, since they were never released in true HD?

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MarvelVader said:

I have some questions, please.

  1. Will there be a version with the original lightsaber colors? Like having Obi-Wan’s remain blue and not green, for example?

  2. I know this is YOUR edit, and I don’t want to sound controversial, but would it be possible to have a version of the PT Revised that includes the parts about Midichlorians? Because personally, I have no problem with them.

  3. What kind of alien/droid voice dubbing will be done?

  4. What scenes are you planning to cut out completely?

  5. How are you going to make the DVD deleted scenes look more presentable, since they were never released in true HD?

I believe Hal 9000 has high-quality versions of most of the deleted scenes on his Google Drive.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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MarvelVader said:

I have some questions, please.

  1. Will there be a version with the original lightsaber colors? Like having Obi-Wan’s remain blue and not green, for example?

  2. I know this is YOUR edit, and I don’t want to sound controversial, but would it be possible to have a version of the PT Revised that includes the parts about Midichlorians? Because personally, I have no problem with them.

  3. What kind of alien/droid voice dubbing will be done?

  4. What scenes are you planning to cut out completely?

  5. How are you going to make the DVD deleted scenes look more presentable, since they were never released in true HD?

Yes as stated in the Op post, there will be different versions due to saber coloring. One a purist cut, preserving all colors. One to be in line with Adywan’s Revisited Trilogy, and all blue except for Luke green one in VI. And my version, in which Jedi Masters have green, and padawan have blue. Mace may still have purple in mine due to him being the leader of the council.

Probably not on the Metachlorians. Though maybe. I’ve considered doing a total purist cut, with only new vfx for those scenes, and no new scenes.

Itll be an actor recording lines into a mic and ran through some effects and eq, and compression.

Like FreezingTNT2 said, Hal9000’s scenes are the best ones available right now. So im using some of them for the few shots i want. Trying not to use too much. The scene of the droid following Ani and Qui-gon though is kinda of needed. I still have more work to do on them though, but i’ve already tweaked some of them. It would be nice if Disney released the 4k versions and included the deleted scenes (hopefully looking better for the 4k disc). We shall see though.

No i have no plans to do the 4k versions if they are released. Not yet at least. I would need a much better computer to handle doing it in 4k. Plus the effects would have to be redone on somethings. I dont know if i could tolerate a 4k Jar Jar. To redo JarJar completely in Blender or something though, i would need a 20k$ computer. I am hoping though i can meet some one good at cgi models and wants to team up. There is a lot i would like to do, but just depends.

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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FreezingTNT2 said:

MarvelVader said:

I have some questions, please.

  1. Will there be a version with the original lightsaber colors? Like having Obi-Wan’s remain blue and not green, for example?

  2. I know this is YOUR edit, and I don’t want to sound controversial, but would it be possible to have a version of the PT Revised that includes the parts about Midichlorians? Because personally, I have no problem with them.

  3. What kind of alien/droid voice dubbing will be done?

  4. What scenes are you planning to cut out completely?

  5. How are you going to make the DVD deleted scenes look more presentable, since they were never released in true HD?

I believe Hal 9000 has high-quality versions of most of the deleted scenes on his Google Drive.

It would be nice if Hal had done all of the scenes for the trilogy but i totally understand why not.

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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He didn’t do them himself (I think it was DrDre), but there are several scenes that simply aren’t finished enough to use. I can’t recall which ones aren’t included in Hal’s upscaled pack and which ones aren’t, though - it’s possible that some of the finished ones aren’t included.

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ChainsawAsh said:

He didn’t do them himself (I think it was DrDre), but there are several scenes that simply aren’t finished enough to use. I can’t recall which ones aren’t included in Hal’s upscaled pack and which ones aren’t, though - it’s possible that some of the finished ones aren’t included.

I thought DrDre only did TPM and Hal did the other two? Either way, i get what your saying. I dont recall either which scenes where done or not, but thats ok with me. I think there were a couple i kind of wanted where a background replace would have helped.

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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DigMod said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

To be fair it’s obvious that his face was inserted onto a random Jedi

To be fair, there is only so much you can do.

Yes, but if that is the case you might want to ask if you can pull it off or if it is even needed. I’m always wary of the “to be fair” defenses when a shot can’t be pulled off. I tried to do a force vision reusing footage and many in the community let me know it didn’t hold up, so I eventually axed it because I didn’t have the skills to pull it off at that time. One problem I have with the prequels is that they show way too much and over explain themselves. I’d have to agree that the current scenes are noticeable at the moment and I view it as a workprint/proof of concept. Hope you can pull it off.

Tried a few tweaks to the existing scene of Dooku. Altering levels, brightness, contrast, tint, blending mode, and a few other things.

Muclunkey!
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Which specific aliens and droids are you going to change the voices for?

Can you do anything to fix the continuity with Ewan McGregor’s hair and weight in TPM and fake beard in AOTC, or is that too much for you?

In ROTS, when Anakin arrives on Mustafar, and puts his hood on, it looks like they forgot to change Hayden Christensen’s right hand. It’s still fleshy!

I think the digital head replacements for Christopher Lee and Ian McDiarmid could use some touching up on.

What will you do about Vader’s “Noooooo!”?

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GameStation52 said:

Which specific aliens and droids are you going to change the voices for?

Can you do anything to fix the continuity with Ewan McGregor’s hair and weight in TPM and fake beard in AOTC, or is that too much for you?

In ROTS, when Anakin arrives on Mustafar, and puts his hood on, it looks like they forgot to change Hayden Christensen’s right hand. It’s still fleshy!

I think the digital head replacements for Christopher Lee and Ian McDiarmid could use some touching up on.

What will you do about Vader’s “Noooooo!”?

To quote TheAlaskanSandman, “There is only so much you can do.”

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.

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Never noticed anything about Ewan’s weight in TPM personally. And the “Noooo” has been essentially solved by other editors by using the Japanese or Russian dubs for that moment (which are more wordless cries of anguish than anything).

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GameStation52 said:

Which specific aliens and droids are you going to change the voices for?

Can you do anything to fix the continuity with Ewan McGregor’s hair and weight in TPM and fake beard in AOTC, or is that too much for you?

In ROTS, when Anakin arrives on Mustafar, and puts his hood on, it looks like they forgot to change Hayden Christensen’s right hand. It’s still fleshy!

I think the digital head replacements for Christopher Lee and Ian McDiarmid could use some touching up on.

What will you do about Vader’s “Noooooo!”?

At least Jar Jar, Gun-Gun’s, Droids, Waiter in ATOC, Etc.
His hair, probably not. Weight either. That is definitely probably more than i can do. Replacing his hair would involve finding all those right frames some where else. They would need to be lit right and more. It would turn out like trying to replace a lightsaber hilt through out a battle scene. Too many angles to duplicate. You’re not likely to find all the angles you need. Then on top of that they would all have to be blended to match the scene.
Anakin’s hand i can definitely fix.
Which scene for Dooku and Sidious are you referring to?
Vader’s No is going bye bye. In fact, Vader is going bye bye from the prequels. Only way to preserve the narrative of the OT. He will not be named Vader, and you wont see him turn to Vader. Last youll see him is burning on Mustafar.

Muclunkey!
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FreezingTNT2 said:

GameStation52 said:

Which specific aliens and droids are you going to change the voices for?

Can you do anything to fix the continuity with Ewan McGregor’s hair and weight in TPM and fake beard in AOTC, or is that too much for you?

In ROTS, when Anakin arrives on Mustafar, and puts his hood on, it looks like they forgot to change Hayden Christensen’s right hand. It’s still fleshy!

I think the digital head replacements for Christopher Lee and Ian McDiarmid could use some touching up on.

What will you do about Vader’s “Noooooo!”?

To quote TheAlaskanSandman, “There is only so much you can do.”

Word. Plus, if i could fix some one’s weight, it would be Maul in Solo haha too many beef cakes

Muclunkey!
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ChainsawAsh said:

Never noticed anything about Ewan’s weight in TPM personally. And the “Noooo” has been essentially solved by other editors by using the Japanese or Russian dubs for that moment (which are more wordless cries of anguish than anything).

Never seen the Russian/ Japanese sub version for that scene. Was it better? Vader won’t appear in mine but cool to hear. And yea i was aware of his hair, braid, and hilt changing sides, but i had never heard about his weight. Worth mentioning though and may be do-able by some one. Just not me. I think it might be technically possible, especially with Deep fake tech. I unfortunately am not versed in those programs yet, and also do not have a work computer, but a straight home computer. The render times on that alone would be tough

Muclunkey!
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ChainsawAsh said:

https://youtu.be/CpC9KIc4zDE

Nein!!! Omg that was f*cking awesome hahaha I thought the Turkish one wasn’t too bad. The Spanish one made me laugh pretty good.

Yea the only versions im doing where Vader will appear is the purist cut, and the Machete Cut. My Revised version, and the version to go with Revisited both cut Anakin. Adywan planned on doing the same thing to preserve the Vader reveal for ESB.

TBH, i prefer the Machete Order but that’s just me. I like the order of information. Start with Luke, end with Luke. Vader reveal, Sidious Reveal, then seeing it all before starting Rotj, where Luke starts off looking dark like Anakin and force choking people like a boss. Also the lightning scene being reinforced by ROTS having been viewed right before ROTJ, really puts it back onto Anakin and his choices in that moment. Along with Lukes belief and hope in him.

Muclunkey!
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Im considering using the music from the 3rd trailer for the beginning of the podrace before Jabba rings the gong. Right then it would cut out and the engines would kick off going into different music to fit the podrace. This is a defining moment in Anakin’s life, and a moment the good guy’s are depending on too. Would like to make this moment have more weight to it, along with fun and excitement.

Muclunkey!
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I was referring to the digital head replacements done during both of Dooku’s fights against Anakin and Obi-Wan, and Palpatine’s fight against Mace.

So, the Purist Cuts will keep the original alien and droid voices, right? The only things different in them from the official versions will be the vfx enhancements, the visual continuity fixes, and the color correction? Just making sure I understand this correctly.

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GameStation52 said:

I was referring to the digital head replacements done during both of Dooku’s fights against Anakin and Obi-Wan, and Palpatine’s fight against Mace.

So, the Purist Cuts will keep the original alien and droid voices, right? The only things different in them from the official versions will be the vfx enhancements, the visual continuity fixes, and the color correction? Just making sure I understand this correctly.

Oh ok. We shall see. Im not there yet. Ill put it on the list of things to try for though. No, on the purist cut ill probably still change the droid voices. Just the events will play out the same. At least thats what i had in mind. Still a little ways off from that though. So ill keep you informed

Muclunkey!
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The main problem I have with getting rid of Midichlorians is that Palpatine mentioned them in the middle of a long shot when he was telling Anakin about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise. How is it even possible to seamlessly edit out “Midichlorians” from this long shot that slowly zooms in?

https://youtu.be/05dT34hGRdg

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GameStation52 said:

The main problem I have with getting rid of Midichlorians is that Palpatine mentioned them in the middle of a long shot when he was telling Anakin about the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise. How is it even possible to seamlessly edit out “Midichlorians” from this long shot that slowly zooms in?

https://youtu.be/05dT34hGRdg

I think Hal 9000 edited the scene to remove the midi-chlorians mention in his Revenge of the Sith edit.

The unfortunate reality of the Star Wars prequel and Disney trilogies is that they will always be around. Forever. They will never go away. It can never be undone.

I also prefer to be referred to as “TNT”, not “Freezing”.