The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 375

TDS91939 said:

This is no shade to Temuera Morrison. What if the clones, JUST the clones got dubbed over with Dee Bradley Baker’s voice so it’s consistent. It would make sense if it’s just Jango and Boba with Temuera’s voice since Boba is “unaltered”.

Not a bad idea…

When watching A New Hope, and the droids are trekking Tatooine, there’s meant to be an air of mystery. You don’t know what you’re gonna find.
The Prequels ruin that.

So I propose turning Tatooine into Geonosis. This would be done through color grading and new mattes. Then have it so Yoda and Obi-Wan move the Lars and Luke to a different planet to increase the chances of Vader not finding them.

G&G-Fan said:

When watching A New Hope, and the droids are trekking Tatooine, there’s meant to be an air of mystery. You don’t know what you’re gonna find.
The Prequels ruin that.

Not if you watch the movies in release order, like almost everyone does. Don’t take this as a personal attack, but by following your logic, the Prequels should not exist in the first place, because almost every single element of the Original Trilogy feels like that. The Jedi, the Dark Side, the Empire, Alderaan, and so on. You need to remove some of the mystery surrounding these things if you want to watch the Prequels first, that’s just inevitable.

u made tatooine in the prequels geonosis but that wouldn’t make the everything a little smaller, like geonosis where the planet were anakin lived with his mother where the separatist droids is where the clone wars started where anakin lost his arm and his mother ?

Spartacus01 said:

Not if you watch the movies in release order, like almost everyone does. Don’t take this as a personal attack, but by following your logic, the Prequels should not exist in the first place, because almost every single element of the Original Trilogy feels like that. The Jedi, the Dark Side, the Empire, Alderaan, and so on. You need to remove some of the mystery surrounding these things if you want to watch the Prequels first, that’s just inevitable.

When talking about the movies as they are, then yes, the Originals need to be watched first.
But I’m talking about a version of the Prequels where they’re watched as the first movies. There’s merits to that, first and foremost being the ability to watch it at one cohesive story, like you would any other film series.

The Jedi can be introduced in the Prequels. They aren’t mentioned in ANH until the scene in Ben’s hut, and the emotions between Luke and Ben carry it well enough without mystery of what the Jedi are. Especially since there’s very little time between when the concept is introduced and when it’s explained.

The Empire isn’t mysterious. You jump into ANH with an Imperial Star Destroyer, Stormtroopers and Darth Vader immediately showing up. And while there was a mystery to Vader at first, his introduction is badass enough that the scene is still awesome without it, especially if proceeded by a good version of the Prequels.

Alderaan is a mystery? From space it just looks like Earth, and we never see the surface.

There is a difference between those examples and a whole 5 minute stretch of time where we’re supposed to feel nervous for the droids because they’re in a dangerous wasteland.

Skybatman said:

u made tatooine in the prequels geonosis but that wouldn’t make the everything a little smaller, like geonosis where the planet were anakin lived with his mother where the separatist droids is where the clone wars started where anakin lost his arm and his mother ?

No universe shrinking has occurred because no planet was deleted or added.

Geonosis is an Outer rim planet, making it both a good candidate for the humble beginnings of Anakin like Tatooine is for Luke, but also makes sense for Separatist sentiments to grow, as they could feel abandoned by the Republic.

Either that or turn any appearance of Tatooine in the Prequels to a whole new planet.

G&G-Fan said:

There is a difference between those examples and a whole 5 minute stretch of time where we’re supposed to feel nervous for the droids because they’re in a dangerous wasteland.

The Jedi are mentioned quite a bit in the Original Trilogy, and they come across as mysterious because you have no real sense of how their Order was structured, what their rules were, or what their temple looked like. Watching those films, you are left with a sense of mystery surrounding the Jedi simply because you know so little about them. If you watch the Prequels first, they take that mystery away.

The same applies to the Empire. It is not mysterious in the sense that we do not know what it is, but rather in the sense that we do not know how it came to be. How was the Empire established? Who is this Emperor we see in the films? What connection did he have to the Old Republic? These are all unanswered questions when watching the Original Trilogy, and the Prequels take away that mystery by giving us all the answers upfront.

So, if we were to follow your logic and remove everything in the Prequels that diminishes the sense of mystery in the Original Trilogy, there would not be much of the Prequels left at all.

As for Tatooine, the Prequels do not ruin it. They only show a very small part of the planet, just like the Original Trilogy does. The Prequels never take us deep into the desert, nor do they explore its dangers. The story stays within a relatively civilized area where you have a clear idea of what to expect — exactly like in A New Hope. When the droids wander into the desert in A New Hope, the tension remains, even if you have seen the Prequels, because the desert is still an unknown. The Prequels only show the parts of Tatooine that are full of people, places where there are no real surprises. The desert, on the other hand, remains an unpredictable and dangerous place, no matter how much you have already seen in the Prequels.

It is not exactly a radical idea, but I would still like to propose it. Essentially, I believe I have found a way to integrate the scene from Attack of the Clones in which Anakin vents his grief to Padmé after his mother’s death, without necessarily including any mention of the massacre he committed against the Tusken Raiders.

My idea is quite simple: right after Anakin says, “It is all Obi-Wan’s fault. He is jealous. He is holding me back,” the scene would be cut immediately to the moment when he collapses to the ground and sits down, with Padmé approaching and saying, “To be angry is to be human.” I believe that, with the right cut, it could come across as realistic. This way, it would be possible to preserve the most important part of the scene — namely, Anakin’s desire for omnipotence and his determination to prevent people from dying — without keeping the part where he essentially admits to Padmé that he killed children.

To achieve this, I think the scene would need to be stripped of its original score and rescored entirely. However, I am fairly confident that it is feasible. What do you think?

Spartacus01 said:

It is not exactly a radical idea, but I would still like to propose it. Essentially, I believe I have found a way to integrate the scene from Attack of the Clones in which Anakin vents his grief to Padmé after his mother’s death, without necessarily including any mention of the massacre he committed against the Tusken Raiders.

My idea is quite simple: right after Anakin says, “It is all Obi-Wan’s fault. He is jealous. He is holding me back,” the scene would be cut immediately to the moment when he collapses to the ground and sits down, with Padmé approaching and saying, “To be angry is to be human.” I believe that, with the right cut, it could come across as realistic. This way, it would be possible to preserve the most important part of the scene — namely, Anakin’s desire for omnipotence and his determination to prevent people from dying — without keeping the part where he essentially admits to Padmé that he killed children.

To achieve this, I think the scene would need to be stripped of its original score and rescored entirely. However, I am fairly confident that it is feasible. What do you think?

For what it’s worth, here’s my two cents on how to address that problem: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ml90rgWBTyGyIv0d2pM0xU-foauZ_Esp/view?usp=sharing

To me, the “I hate them!” line isn’t over done. . . cause it’s his mom. . . My mom broke her ankle in the Grand Canyon, and I’ve never been so ready to fight a National Park in my life!

Has anyone tried filming people in clone armor to try and replace some of the CG troopers?

Thought I’d actually finish this up

https://streamable.com/l89w6s

Really rough wip audio, and one shot I need to work on better.

paja said:

Thought I’d actually finish this up

https://streamable.com/l89w6s

Really rough wip audio, and one shot I need to work on better.

good!