The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 373

What if there’s a reoccurring motif of nightmares symbolizing Anakin’s fear of death throughout the trilogy?

I got the inspiration from this panel from Soule’s Vader comic run. As well as the ROTS novel, which has this symbolic “Dragon” that tells Anakin that “All things die. Even stars burn out”.

In TPM, Anakin has nightmares of this figure of Death taking himself and his mother someday.
In AOTC, Death taunts him, telling him he has his mother now, just as he will have him someday.
In ROTS, after the death of Dooku, Death taunts him that it doesn’t matter how strong he becomes, he will have him someday. Then later (going with the idea that the nightmare of Padme’s death happens way later in the movie, to plant the idea of Anakin craving immortality), we see this figure of Death taking Padme. Perhaps choking her, or some variant of the OG nightmare; perhaps take a cue from the original idea where she’s consumed by flames, as described in The Secret History of Star Wars.

This figure could be straight up Vader, or a more abstract shape of Vader, or even just straight up the Grim Reaper. Or maybe take a cue from the novel and have it be a Dragon, and when Anakin becomes Vader, just as in the novel, it chokes and kills the Dragon.

If the shape is Vader or resembles Vader, it further cements the symbolism of Anakin becoming an angel of Death in trying to cheat it.

I’m brainstorming ways I could execute it visually. I know Snooker made this demo of Anakin facing Vader in a nightmare in AOTC.

That’s a cool idea!

I’d watch that!

I’m glad you guys like that idea. Finally, another way to organically and feasibly implement Anakin desiring immortality into the movies.
Now I just got to figure out how to do it. I’d want this figure of Death to resemble Vader, but more abstract. Retains the idea of Vader symbolically being The Angel of Death but without it being so on the nose.

Other ideas were flooding in recently, thought I’d share.

I’m sick of how many green forest planets there are in Star Wars. What if Naboo was made into a planet that’s perpetually autumn? Trees with orange leaves, an overall warm yellow tint, like LOTR Rivendell.

Turn Geonosis into a gray ash field (idea from a DeviantArt user named Angel/SWRemixed).

Turn Alderaan into a purple crystal planet. Purple is a traditionally royal color that fits Bail and Leia.

Replace Count Dooku’s force lightning with a red vampiric power that absorbs the Living Force from another user (that user can recover, of course). Adds more unique dark side powers.

Further extrapolating from what I said before, reveal that Dooku has a more Dracula-like face as his true form. I don’t like that Dooku isn’t physically corrupted by the dark side.
It’s also foreshadowing of Palpatine also masking his monstrous appearance with dark side alchemy.

Grade the medical bay where Vader’s suit is created to look like the carbon freezing chamber in ESB. I attempted this today in Premiere, but am admittedly an amateur and couldn’t get it to look good. I might keep trying.

Also regrade Mustafar to be more of that same ESB carbon chamber orange tone. I’ve gotten sick of how it just looks like a splotch of red. I prefer the way it looks in Rogue One and the Kenobi show.

Try to resequence ROTS to swap the arrangement of the Mustafar slaughter and Order 66. Could hamper internal logic and may even be structurally impossible, but could serve to make the turn to the dark side more believable and gradual.

Perhaps either the Neimoidians don’t receive orders from anybody on-screen (would require their characters redubbed so they’re actually scary) or the hooded figure is Maul. Sidious wouldn’t be seen until the end of AOTC.

Take cues from Adywan and have TPM be partially about the Federation attempting to gain control of cloning technology. And/or implement them wanting Naboo’s plasma resources into the actual narrative to give more explanation for their actions.

Also Adywan inspired, make the Clones derived from multiple Mandalorian warriors, not just Jango Fett. Attempt to mitigate universe-shrinking.

Add creatures in the lakes of lava on Mustafar that attempt to grab and drag people in. Taking inspiration from the River Styx in Greek mythology.

Use footage from the Kenobi show to create new scene with dialogue to solidify that Anakin is fully Vader now, psychologically. Perhaps a scene of him in his fortress receiving orders from Palpatine to kill a remaining Jedi, or on a Star Destroyer bridge ordering officers to set a course for a system with a Jedi. More rageful then OT Vader, but mostly the stoic OT Vader we’re familiar with.

I like to put my ideas out there, even before I do them. I know it can appear like I’m all talk (which I admit is partially due to my ADHD) but I do make earnest attempts to make stuff, and I want to release my own saga someday. I want them to be made more then anyone else wants to see them probably, since I can actually imagine it in my head.

Anakin Starkiller said:

I’m happy to see someone else caring as much as I do about the look of planets.

Might I suggest making Naboo go through seasons? In TPM it’s summer, representing the Republic standing strong. In AotC it’s fall, representing the slowly crumbling Republic. In RotS, it’s a snowy winter, representing the dissolution of the Republic. This also evenly spreads the workload, since TPM, which features Naboo prominently, wouldn’t need to be altered at all, while the hardest edit to pull off (adding snow) would be relegated to a movie that only features one brief scene on Naboo.

I like that Star Wars planets are one biome. It makes them stick out and helps the storytelling, as you instantly know where you are. Hence why I thought it’d be interesting to have a planet that looks perpetually autumn. You could experiment with the specific colors a bit to convey a certain mood, lighter or darker yellows/oranges depending on the scene.

Summer vibes also work, perhaps complete with alien flowers.

idea from a DeviantArt user named Andres

Without a link and with such a generic name it’s impossible to find the picture(s) you’re referring to.

I actually misremembered the name, it’s Angel, or SWRemixed.

https://www.deviantart.com/swremixed/art/SW2-AOTC-Geonosis-ReColor-02-126952813
https://www.deviantart.com/swremixed/art/SW2-AOTC-Geonosis-ReColor-04-127083486

He also gave Dooku’s castle more of a classic horror look, which is badass.

I’m not sure why you wanna change Alderaan though. It’s fine the way it is, and its appearance is so brief.

Just to add more alien worlds. Alderaan isn’t too unique, its a city with snowy mountains. But perhaps this idea would suit a different planet.

The lesser the screentime, the less mattes that would have to be made.
Which is why, when I consider the OT, it feels way more convenient to try and make Yavin IV more alien as opposed to the Endor moon, which has a lot of screentime (and is honestly pretty iconic; I’d want to add some alien vegetation but not entirely remove the redwood look).

My attempts to make Mustafar more orange like the carbon freezing chamber

Referencing

it looks good

Make the Jedi Temple more like Mt. Olympus in Greek mythology by placing it on top of a high mountain.

Additionally, make it look more ancient and full of life. The poles have dust, rust, the place looks more brown. Even have plant life growing across it.

Vampire Dooku tests

The gray skin is quite simple, creating a mask around his face and tracking it. The red eyes are a lot more difficult, tracking especially. It took a lot of tweaking to make them look passable. I’d appreciate help in that arena, if someone else is interested.

G&G-Fan said:

I’m sick of how many green forest planets there are in Star Wars. What if Naboo was made into a planet that’s perpetually autumn? Trees with orange leaves, an overall warm yellow tint, like LOTR Rivendell.

I thought this was a cool concept and cranked this up.

https://streamable.com/kjlngg?src=player-page-share

Not perfect and looks like there’s a wildfire happening instead of just Autumn, however I think it came out well.

paja said:

I thought this was a cool concept and cranked this up.

https://streamable.com/kjlngg?src=player-page-share

Not perfect and looks like there’s a wildfire happening instead of just Autumn, however I think it came out well.

Yayyyyy ppl like some of my ideas!

This is awesome man. Whilst I agree there’s room for improvement this is still impressive.

I’ve made some attempts of my own and it’s certainly harder then some online tutorials made it look, but I hope I can get it to look how I want. Your results turned out better then mine.

One thing that I think should be eliminated from Revenge of the Sith is Anakin’s hesitation after the so-called “Padmé’s ruminations” scene.

in my opinion, the moment when Anakin truly decides where his loyalties lie should be when we see him crying while standing in front of the window in the Jedi Council chambers. His tears should symbolize his decision. He cries because he already knows what he is going to do, and he understands that it’s wrong, but he has made up his mind, and there’s no going back. He has chosen to side with the Sith, and even though it pains him, it’s the path he has committed to. Because of this, all the hesitation Anakin displays when he arrives in Palpatine’s office and sees Mace Windu fighting him should be removed. The only dialogue from Anakin that would be necessary to keep are the moment when he says he needs Palpatine, and the moment where he cuts off Mace Windu’s hand with his lightsaber. Additionally, the line where Anakin says, “What have I done?” should be cut, as it contradicts the idea that he had already made his decision beforehand.

Do you guys think it would be possible to implement these edits?

Could any Peter Cushing footage in another movie suffice to add Tarkin to the Prequels even for a cameo as an Admiral, perhaps on Anakin’s battalion? Could one incorporate an idea of him being the one to design Vader’s suit?

I could survey his Frankenstein movies but I’m not really sure if one could use material from it considering he spends the entire time in Victorian era fashion.

TheDimitrios said:

Your best shot would probably be to deepfake Tarkin onto another character in the background.

But as is, for me the cameo in RotS is enough. And he also shows up in Clone Wars, so no urgent need imo.

It’s not critical for me either, I just thought it’d be cool.

Another thing. I’ve talked before in another thread about my desire to give each Sith their own unique ability. The force lightning is Palpatine’s; a classic warlock power. Dooku is vampiric, temporarily drawing on one’s life force like a parasite. Vader is his iconic force choke (tho I might consider adding another, more “cosmic” power as well, but one that reflects his more blunt personality). What about Maul?

It took me awhile but I thought of it, and it also closes a plot issue.
Maul is like a hunter, animalistic. What if his power is a heightened clairvoyance, sort of like a carnivore’s sense of smell? It closes the plot hole of how the Sith got a trace of the Queen’s ship if Obi-Wan prevented them from making any contact.
It’d require removal of “If the trace is correct”, as well as some sort of visual indicating that he uses the Force to discover the location.
I can’t momentarily think of how this power could create any new plot holes. I’d need to mull it over a bit more.

Anakin Starkiller said:

Giving each Sith their own unique power is an interesting train of thought.

I want to add more supernatural dark side powers other then Force lightning. Everyone always talks about “the power of the dark side”, and while I understand they’re referring to it’s raw power, I think giving the Sith more “superpowers” makes it more alluring.

However, the idea is that the powers extract a toll, both on the soul and body. Which is why in my version, all of the Sith, not just Maul and Vader, look like monsters. Sidious’ face is not due to lightning being reflected on him but the dark side, and Dooku’s true form looks like a vampire. It’s the classic mythic trope of physical corruption due to dark magic.