The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 368

StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Should Yoda be a present character within the prequels?

I feel that removing him from the PT preserves the revelation in TESB of who Yoda really is.

Personally, given that the prequels are best seen after ESB (either in Machete Order or release order), I don’t see the point. And I think pretty much everyone on Earth knows what Yoda looks like at this point anyways. 😉

Anakin Starkiller said:

First of all, you should be watching the OT first, and second of all, the Yoda reveal frankly works better when you know he’s Yoda.

Yes, but suppose you made an edit to watch the films chronologically.

Tantive3+1 said:

StarkillerAG said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Should Yoda be a present character within the prequels?

I feel that removing him from the PT preserves the revelation in TESB of who Yoda really is.

Personally, given that the prequels are best seen after ESB (either in Machete Order or release order), I don’t see the point. And I think pretty much everyone on Earth knows what Yoda looks like at this point anyways. 😉

Anakin Starkiller said:

First of all, you should be watching the OT first, and second of all, the Yoda reveal frankly works better when you know he’s Yoda.

Yes, but suppose you made an edit to watch the films chronologically.

First of all, why? I fail to see the point of doing something that would just create more complications. We’ve all seen the Star Wars movies already, so editing them for a nonexistent first-timer audience is unnecessary at best.

And second of all, my point about literally everyone on Earth knowing what Yoda looks like still stands. 😉

Spartacus01 said:

Tantive3+1 said:

Should Yoda be a present character within the prequels?

I feel that removing him from the PT preserves the revelation in TESB of who Yoda really is.

But removing him entirely would contradict ESB itself, since Yoda clearly states that Anakin was a powerful Jedi. How could he even knew that if he wasn’t part of the Prequels and never knew Anakin?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3jI3RrMsVI&t=133s

Yoda’s a powerful clairvoyant, his connection to Ben presumably amplifying/focusing his abilities. Unless you wanna assume that Yoda physically visited Tatooine to spy on Luke.

So many will argue for why Yoda with a lightsaber is based really, but fail to notice this. I can’t even.

I’m working on something a bit out there, a major refocus of the Saga that requires I use Phantom Menace material in a different way.

I saw a while ago someone had made an edit of TPM that cut it way down to make it into a film about the Sith & Jedi essentially racing to get ahold of the Chosen One. So it cut the opening Naboo stuff , but beyond that I don’t remember how it accomplished its changes and I can’t find it anywhere.

Anyone have some suggestions for a TPM restructure that is focused on the Sith & Jedi looking for the Chosen One?

Through deepfaking and inserts, have a scene showing Anakin looking through ancient Sith texts and holocrons to find out if the Sith ever actually cheated death.

Maybe try to use footage of a Sith wayfinder as a Sith holocron, since those have never been shown in live action?

G&G-Fan said:

Through deepfaking and inserts, have a scene showing Anakin looking through ancient Sith texts and holocrons to find out if the Sith ever actually cheated death.

Maybe try to use footage of a Sith wayfinder as a Sith holocron, since those have never been shown in live action?

I like that idea!

I have a very radical idea.

In Attack of the Clones, it’s implied that the Sith are behind the creation of the Clone Army, and therefore behind the Clone Wars. Now, since the Sith wanted the war, then it’s obvious that their plan was to conduct the Jedi to the Clone Army. So, the fact that the Jedi discovered the Clone Army was not a coincidence. It was precisely what the Sith wanted, and that’s why they intentionally conducted the Jedi on Kamino, and then on Geonosis. But unfortunately Lucas is not a good writer, and therefore this is not very clear in Attack of the Clones - so much so that a lot of people still think that the discovery of the Clone Army was a coincidence. Therefore, I have thought about an idea that could make it even more clear.

After Obi-Wan ends his conversation with Jango Fett and leaves the room, we don’t have Jango telling Boba: “Pack your things, we are leaving.” Instead, we have him calling Count Dooku and telling him that a Jedi arrived on Kamino, and is suspicious. Then, we have Dooku replying by saying something along the lines of: “Good. Now come here to Geonosis, and make sure the Jedi follows you.”

This way, it’s even more implied that the discovery of both the Clone Army and the Droid Army was not a coincidence, as the Sith wanted the Jedi to discover both armies in order to make the war possible.

The Clone Wars does explore that thread further, with the mystery of the clones and why the Republic just accepted it, but it comes very late in the Clone Wars so the audience is asking ‘why?’ for quite a long time either way.

You would also have to imply that Jango purposefully planted the dart, which leads the Jedi to Kamino.

A while ago I suggested inserting a closeup of Jango holding the dart after his meeting with Zam. It’s a little change, but it would emphasis the importance of the dart and hint at a greater plan.

As a way of showing Anakin’s lust for immortality in his own right (as an additional motive for him turning), AI some lines from Ian McDiarmid. Something like, “I know deep down, my boy, you crave the power to live forever. You crave it just as much as I do. As any Sith.”

TiiN said:

Hi all, I can remember that someone worked on adding a hologram of Count Dooku to the deleted senate scene of episode 2 (and speaking to the senate). I thought this was in this thread but I can’t find it anymore. Maybe someone can help me?

I think I took it down because it turned out too convoluted and incomprehensive. However, if you are still interested, I could upload it again.

On a different note, I remember that someone added a hologram of some mystical stone wall to Palpatine’s offices in AOTC, but I can’t find it anymore. I was thinking about extending the scene in question.

Peter Pan said:

On a different note, I remember that someone added a hologram of some mystical stone wall to Palpatine’s offices in AOTC, but I can’t find it anymore. I was thinking about extending the scene in question.

Hmmm…I’d like to see that!

I believe you are referring to “The Hidden Planet” fan-edit

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Episode-II-The-Hidden-Planet-1956/id/101823

G&G-Fan said:

I believe you are referring to “The Hidden Planet” fan-edit

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Episode-II-The-Hidden-Planet-1956/id/101823

Yes, that was the edit I had in mind, thank you very much for the link.

Here is the first draft of the scene in Palpatine’s office.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Eb92YuM5Mmi3A8MzWcpHVLtWBBcQPOzq/view?usp=share_link

I changed the dialogue so that now Anakin visits Palpatine under the pretense to ask for advice to convince Padmé to leave Coruscant, but Palpatine catches on to his intent and demands to know Anakin’s real reason to seek him out. This leads to Anakin confessing his worries for his mother in Palpatine, who assures him to look after her in his stead and adds a dismissive remark to the Jedi’s teaching methods.

Apart from a few audio bits of sub-par quality, the biggest issue left is the lip sync on some of Palpatine’s new lines. I am not sure what I can do about that, but before I attempt anything I would like to hear your opinion on the new dialogue and welcome any suggestions to improve the wording.

Unrelated to the dialogue, I noticed an editing mistake during the pan from Palpatine’s window. For a few frames, the floor of his office is disconnected from the little stairs leading up to his desk. Has anyone ever attempted to fix that?

Pretty good, it adds some extra Palpatine which is always a plus. The only note is that you can’t hear what Anakin says when he starts discussing his real reason for coming. “- dreams”

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1KhSuMmNyebAOYYRqMQKtMpiWyd7WPf14/view?usp=share_link

I added a little bit to Anakin’s last line, I hope that makes him easier to understand.

I had a very interesting idea.

My idea is to modify the lines that Vader says when Palpatine tells him that Padmé is dead. My idea is to modify the lines, so that it appears that the Dark Side has blinded Anakin so much, that he doesn’t even care anymore about whatever Padmé is alive or not. The Dark Side has twisted his mind so much, that he has completely forgotten why he joined the Dark Side in the first place: to save Padmé. Now saving Padmé is no longer his priority, all he cares about is power, ruling the Galaxy and doing things his own way. Therefore, I propose an alternate version of the dialogue between him and Palpatine at the end of Revenge of the Sith.

The dialogue would be more or less like this:

Vader: Where is Padmé? Is she safe? Is she alright?
Palpatine: It seems that in your anger you killed her.
Vader: [Pauses for a couple of seconds] Her name… has no longer any meaning for me.

We just cut the whole “NOOOOOO” thing, as well as Vader’s rage at the medical droids.

Do you think something like this could be achieved through AI?