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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 360

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I’ve gone all in on the trilogy of trilogies aspect to the point that it’s genuinely my primary argument for the Sequels’ existence. I’m trying to lean into the poetry, as George would say.

I don’t condone incorporating animated projects into live-action ones willy-nilly. It can be done in small doses if handled carefully but otherwise it’s a continuity/immersion breaking collage.

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Peter Pan said:

I think the inciting incident in ROTS should be that Palpatine tells Anakin that he is Sidious.

I think this is a good idea. How do we implement it?

Whoops, sorry for the double post!

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Peter Pan said:

I think the inciting incident in ROTS should be that Palpatine tells Anakin that he is Sidious.

I think this is a good idea. How do we implement it?

Whoops, sorry for the double post!

I made an edit that put the talky bit after the opening first, but it turned out a bit meh and now I’m thinking to start the movie with one of Anakin’s nightmares and the original opening battle directly after that.
Then I would implement some dialogue from Anakin’s turn into the scene where Palpatine tells Anakin to kill Dooku. (stuff like “only then will you be strong enough with the dark side to save Padmé”, I did something similar in my first edit)

I think this should be the moment where the reveal happens, because Obi-Wan is unconscious and Dooku is at Anakin’s mercy.
Also the scene is rather static and shot in close ups, so maybe we can rearrange some shots or create some new ones to give room for one or two more lines of dialogue.

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StarkillerAG said:

When it comes to incorporating the Dark Times content into the main series, I’ve actually been thinking of a fairly interesting idea involving that for a while now: Have the Dark Times content be the new Episodes 4-6, with the OT now being Episodes 7-9.

Episode 4 would be Kenobi (edited into a movie), Episode 5 would be Solo, and Episode 6 would be Rogue One. Kenobi and Solo have been swapped chronologically, but I feel like the “trilogy” is more cohesive this way: Kenobi resolves plot threads left hanging by ROTS and establishes the new state of the galaxy, Solo shows someone trying to survive in this new galaxy and establishes organized resistance movements against the Empire, and Rogue One shows these resistance movements united as a whole and leads directly into ANH.

I feel like this reorganization would have two benefits: It would allow for a bit more of a transition between the radically different aesthetics of the prequels and OT, and it would allow for the cool “trilogy of trilogies” structure to be preserved while having ROTJ be the definitive ending.

I really like this!

I’d even consider doing a “Harry Potter epilogue” sort of thing and having the last scene of ROTJ be a combo of stuff from The Mandalorian and TFA where a new Jedi recruit approaches Luke Skywalker at his temple to start her training.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

What would be the thing that leads Anakin to turn him in in the end?

I had palpatine declaring the empire be the incident that pushes the Jedi to move against him, which leads to the showdown in Palpatine’s office.
Anakin is now put into a position where he cannot delay his decision any longer and brakes under the pressure.

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I think combining TPM and AOTC for an E1, then having ROTS as E2, then a TV to movie edit of Kenobi as E3 would make another good alternative prequel trilogy since it will be following the same characters, depending on how Kenobi plays out of course.

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Splitting the movies into a tv series is something I’ve thought about for the Marvel movies. Could really make a good, cohesive narrative there.

Unfortunately I don’t have the time for such an immense project.

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If you like the idea of Marvel movies to TV you check out my Spider-Man thread.

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You know how we were talking about making the Clone Wars about abolishing slavery? That doesn’t really work because the Republic are the ones using a literal slave army.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

You know how we were talking about making the Clone Wars about abolishing slavery? That doesn’t really work because the Republic are the ones using a literal slave army.

That could still work, if you gave the inconsistency thematic value: You could use it as another example of the Republic’s hypocrisy, with the Republic opposing slavery only when it’s convenient for them. Actually, that unintentional thematic value makes me like the idea a lot more.

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I can see how that could work.

On a related note, apparently the idea of slavery being immoral was completely unheard of in the ancient world, even among people who had been slaves themselves, so you could make the Separatists the ones against slavery. Might not work as well though.

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Your mileage might vary making a group called the Confederacy the ones opposing slavery. Besides, as has been said, I like the thematic dissonance with the clone army, and how it adds to Palpatine’s cover and gives the Jedi extremely bad optics for trying to depose him.

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It’s rough and irradiating but wanted to create a concept of a potential aftermath with Anakin burning down the Tusken Raider village after Shmi’s death.

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I think flashbacks of something like this could be used during the lightsaber duel at the end, as a hint that Anakin is using the dark side to fight Dooku.
Obi-Wan dropping to the ground could serve as the trigger for the flashback.
This would also underline the parallel between Anakin seeing his mother dying and his father-figure being about to be struck down by a lightsaber and thus show how his mother’s passing affects him.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

I can see how that could work.

On a related note, apparently the idea of slavery being immoral was completely unheard of in the ancient world, even among people who had been slaves themselves, so you could make the Separatists the ones against slavery. Might not work as well though.

What does the real life ancient world have to do with anything

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I was just saying a context where nobody questions the morality of slavery is possible.

On the topic of slavery, I remember seeing this French video which despite knowing the title I can no longer find (presumably deleted) where they suggested the CIS was a parallel to the CSA and that in this context the slaves were droids.

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Vladius said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

I can see how that could work.

On a related note, apparently the idea of slavery being immoral was completely unheard of in the ancient world, even among people who had been slaves themselves, so you could make the Separatists the ones against slavery. Might not work as well though.

What does the real life ancient world have to do with anything

The Republic is fairly analogous to ancient Rome.

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bbghost said:

Vladius said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

I can see how that could work.

On a related note, apparently the idea of slavery being immoral was completely unheard of in the ancient world, even among people who had been slaves themselves, so you could make the Separatists the ones against slavery. Might not work as well though.

What does the real life ancient world have to do with anything

The Republic is fairly analogous to ancient Rome.

In some ways yes, but then what are the Separatists analogous to?

The Republic is much more of a “modern” government and gives a lot more sovereignty and representation to each of the provinces/countries/planets than Rome would.

Most importantly, the Republic is supposed to be mostly sympathetic to the audience. Otherwise we don’t care at all when it gets destroyed and we don’t really want the Rebels to bring it back.

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Anyone else hoping we can get two quality feature length film edits from the Obi-Wan Kenobi Series?

‘Revenge of the Sith’ can become Episode 1, and episodes 2 and 3 will be comprised of the new Obi-Wan series. Then everything pre-clone wars would be a separate format. There is a beautiful symmetry to starting the Trilogies with Anakin and Obi-wan as close friends, and Anakin being the “the greatest starfighter pilot in the galaxy”. I always felt the dialogue from Obi-Wan in ANH should have been the primary focus of the prequel trilogy. End of the Clone wars, great star pilot, Anakin becoming Vader, hunting down remaining Jedi, etc.

Maybe it is just me. 😃

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Yeah, I’ve had this thought, and I know other people have too!

I think the ability to do this just depends on a few things.
I believe I’ve heard that the show will be six episodes, but I’m wondering how long each of those episodes will be, and if they will be long enough for two 2-hour movies.

Also, I think you could get away with these theoretical “Episodes II and III” being back-to-back chronologically, because TFA and TLJ did the same thing. It just is a matter of whether or not there will be a good place in the narrative where you could divide the story in half.

I sometimes think it would be better to just remove the episode labels from all of the movies.

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I 100% expect most episodes to be around 40-60 minutes, just like Mando.

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RogueLeader said:

I sometimes think it would be better to just remove the episode labels from all of the movies.

That sounds almost treasonous, but when I think about it, it’s actually a brilliant idea. Removing the episode titles would both reduce the inflated importance of the “Skywalker Saga” that caused the sequels to feel so disappointing, and allow for animated and TV content to be incorporated into the movies (like I was suggesting with my “Expanded Saga” idea) without it feeling too jarring.

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If you’re combining the Saga and spinoffs anyways, dropping the “Episode” part from the title is the absolute first thing I’d do. I’m tempted to say the crawls too, but I suppose you can keep them if you really want to. They probably help tie everything together more cohesively and explain cut or underdeveloped plot points as is often the case in edits.