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What other avenues can we pursue for getting a little more Dooku in TPM?

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Something I would like to see in a Phantom Menace edit is the removal of Podracing Arena. Make the Podrace seem like a local thing that takes place out in the desert. More a drag race than a chariot race. Tatooine is also way too populated/ prominent in The Phantom Menace.

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EddieDean said:

What other avenues can we pursue for getting a little more Dooku in TPM?

What other movies was he in?

Dialogue can be salvaged, and if he’s got a “fantasy” look to him, a hologram can be made to cover up the costume.

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thebluefrog said:

Man, what schools did you guys go to where you only had one teacher for 12 years?

That’s pretty reasonable for a master/apprentice relationship. Not to mention, the prequels making the Jedi start their training as toddlers is kinda ridiculous, training for 12 years is definitely not what they had in mind during the OT.

Besides, the prequels making the Jedi more of a bureaucracy than a creed muddies this a lot. In the OT, what it means to be an apprentice taught by a Jedi master is very different to how it’s depicted in the PT.

All these issues are probably well beyond the scope of a fanedit, but still. This is definitely a contradiction between the OT and PT.

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Anakin Starkiller said:

Leia being Luke’s brother at all, snip.

I mostly agree, except for this being the motive for Luke breaking and attacking Vader to the point of almost losing himself. If there was a way to change Vaders dialogue in that scene then it would all work. Something else that Vader could say or use against Luke to provoke him. Maybe a threat towards his friends, lamenting their soon to be demise, or capture and torture then death. Something. Any good Vader impersonators on here?

I tried this in an old edit in like, 2016. I had my friend voice Vader saying something about how his friends were probably all going to die horrible deaths if he continued to hide, inaction would basically guarantee it. Would he allow his friends to die like that? (Never!)

I don’t know. Looking back I’m not sure if it works, because Luke’s being more rational in that version instead of instinctively going apeshit and cutting Vader’s hand off, kind of ruining the next moment where he notices himself becoming more like Vader because of that. My friend’s VO was unconvincing, anyway, so I never ended up using it.

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SparkySywer said:

thebluefrog said:

Man, what schools did you guys go to where you only had one teacher for 12 years?

That’s pretty reasonable for a master/apprentice relationship. Not to mention, the prequels making the Jedi start their training as toddlers is kinda ridiculous, training for 12 years is definitely not what they had in mind during the OT.

Besides, the prequels making the Jedi more of a bureaucracy than a creed muddies this a lot. In the OT, what it means to be an apprentice taught by a Jedi master is very different to how it’s depicted in the PT.

All these issues are probably well beyond the scope of a fanedit, but still. This is definitely a contradiction between the OT and PT.

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Leia being Luke’s brother at all, snip.

I mostly agree, except for this being the motive for Luke breaking and attacking Vader to the point of almost losing himself. If there was a way to change Vaders dialogue in that scene then it would all work. Something else that Vader could say or use against Luke to provoke him. Maybe a threat towards his friends, lamenting their soon to be demise, or capture and torture then death. Something. Any good Vader impersonators on here?

I tried this in an old edit in like, 2016. I had my friend voice Vader saying something about how his friends were probably all going to die horrible deaths if he continued to hide, inaction would basically guarantee it. Would he allow his friends to die like that? (Never!)

I don’t know. Looking back I’m not sure if it works, because Luke’s being more rational in that version instead of instinctively going apeshit and cutting Vader’s hand off, kind of ruining the next moment where he notices himself becoming more like Vader because of that. My friend’s VO was unconvincing, anyway, so I never ended up using it.

I like the idea of Yoda not being in the prequels at all personally. Then when you meet him in the OT, he’s a jedi yea, but of a long begotten age. More pure.

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

SparkySywer said:

thebluefrog said:

Man, what schools did you guys go to where you only had one teacher for 12 years?

That’s pretty reasonable for a master/apprentice relationship. Not to mention, the prequels making the Jedi start their training as toddlers is kinda ridiculous, training for 12 years is definitely not what they had in mind during the OT.

Besides, the prequels making the Jedi more of a bureaucracy than a creed muddies this a lot. In the OT, what it means to be an apprentice taught by a Jedi master is very different to how it’s depicted in the PT.

All these issues are probably well beyond the scope of a fanedit, but still. This is definitely a contradiction between the OT and PT.

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

Leia being Luke’s brother at all, snip.

I mostly agree, except for this being the motive for Luke breaking and attacking Vader to the point of almost losing himself. If there was a way to change Vaders dialogue in that scene then it would all work. Something else that Vader could say or use against Luke to provoke him. Maybe a threat towards his friends, lamenting their soon to be demise, or capture and torture then death. Something. Any good Vader impersonators on here?

I tried this in an old edit in like, 2016. I had my friend voice Vader saying something about how his friends were probably all going to die horrible deaths if he continued to hide, inaction would basically guarantee it. Would he allow his friends to die like that? (Never!)

I don’t know. Looking back I’m not sure if it works, because Luke’s being more rational in that version instead of instinctively going apeshit and cutting Vader’s hand off, kind of ruining the next moment where he notices himself becoming more like Vader because of that. My friend’s VO was unconvincing, anyway, so I never ended up using it.

I like the idea of Yoda not being in the prequels at all personally. Then when you meet him in the OT, he’s a jedi yea, but of a long begotten age. More pure.

Absolutely agree. And this one’s honestly pretty plausible to pull off. Yoda doesn’t have that much of an effect on the plot.

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thebluefrog said:

EddieDean said:

What other avenues can we pursue for getting a little more Dooku in TPM?

What other movies was he in?

Dialogue can be salvaged, and if he’s got a “fantasy” look to him, a hologram can be made to cover up the costume.

There’s Lord of the Rings, but with the long hair it would be painfully obvious where it’s taken from.

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TK42-WAN said:

Something I would like to see in a Phantom Menace edit is the removal of Podracing Arena. Make the Podrace seem like a local thing that takes place out in the desert. More a drag race than a chariot race. Tatooine is also way too populated/ prominent in The Phantom Menace.

I always imagined it as a lot of people coming to where the races were, like most of the crowd were out-of-towners following the series. But then again, Anakin wouldn’t have been able to race offworld anywhere. Maybe there’s a local league thing run by the Hutts, which was temporarily hosting the main event?