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Maybe they shouldn’t say anything, perhaps the scene would flow better in silence.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Id enjoy seeing an R rated Star Wars. Itd be a pain with all the blood simulation but i think id be pretty cool. As a kid i always liked the blood in ANH and wondered why they did away with it in the other movies. Corridor crew did some small quick vids but they were more on the ridiculous side. I later understood that the wounds were being cauterized but still. I miss the bombastic squids used in the 80’s like in Robocop haha

You know, I actually had an idea for an R-rated Star Wars, complete with sex and nudity. It’d be doable with some actors’ other works and deepfaking.

However, we have to be honest, the SW community is extremely immature and conservative about sexual material, so it would be negatively received (in public) and get a lot of spiteful attempts to stop it.

Too bad, there’s enough source material out there to make it work…maybe I should take another crack at it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G0OLUOwLSa35g6ytyyO9ZDmz0x_bLFYr/view Quick mock up. No nudity tho

Probably NSFW to click on.

Not bad, not bad at all.

I’ve had more than a few people say part of the problem with Anakin and Padme’s “tragic” love story is that there’s no passion. Lucas, being a bit of a manchild, was obviously really uncomfortable with love scenes in general (he’s said so in interviews that’s not a Star Wars thing) so the best we could have is Hayden reciting out lines like “I’M IN AGONY”.

For the story of a great hero brought down by his passion, we actually have to SEE the passion. Which is basically the problem of the prequels that many many others have already brought up: a lot of talking about things but not showing.

Yea i initially had the same knee jerk reaction, thinking nooo, no nudity lol but then i got thinking about what you were saying (You never expressed wanting nudity) and how to tastefully do it and find myself agreeing. Lucas does too much off screen including Obi and Anakins friendship (I wish we had seen more). A good way to look at it, would be to ask what Titanic would be with out the drawing scene and hand on the car window leaving a print. Iconic. Also, story hinges on seeing them hook up, not just kiss. The only nudity tho was the drawing, the car scene was all suggestive. So i tried to approach it from that sense and the parental guidelines. I mean, we see Iron Man hook up with a girl in the first Iron Man, just the music was more fun than romantic. Pepper even tosses her out like yesterdays trash, and this is Disney. ( I still can’t get past Tony wanting to bring back Prima Nocta, or Arnim Zola calling Widow Fräulein lol )

I still want to do some tweaking tho, fix the audio from Anakins mom and its timing, and try to use some scene of Natalie from No Strings Attached to work in with the scenes of Hayden.

The prequels should’ve focused on Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme specifically. Build up Anakin’s love with Padme, friendship with Obi-Wan, and then have them both fall apart in Sith. Anakin’s jealousy at the end of Sith comes out of nowhere, whereas if it had been built up for 3 movies, it would’ve emotionally resonated. Instead of him literally saying “YOU WILL NOT TAKE HER FROM ME!”

That’s what Lucas INTENDED to happen, but it didn’t quite pan out. This basically started with having Anakin be too young in Phantom; I get Lucas’ intention to show him being “innocent” but it still didn’t work in the long run.

That’s why I say the passion was required. Every line that Anakin said about his emotions, whether it was love for Padme or anger at Obi-Wan, should’ve been SHOWN. Sex with Padme. Rage at Obi-Wan. There was basically only one scene where Lucas figured that out, and that’s the scene before Anakin goes to confront Mace and Palpatine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWYwKa_PxQA

That’s what the prequels needed more of. Less dialogue, more acting. Show the passion and anger and emotion, not recite it.

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thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Id enjoy seeing an R rated Star Wars. Itd be a pain with all the blood simulation but i think id be pretty cool. As a kid i always liked the blood in ANH and wondered why they did away with it in the other movies. Corridor crew did some small quick vids but they were more on the ridiculous side. I later understood that the wounds were being cauterized but still. I miss the bombastic squids used in the 80’s like in Robocop haha

You know, I actually had an idea for an R-rated Star Wars, complete with sex and nudity. It’d be doable with some actors’ other works and deepfaking.

However, we have to be honest, the SW community is extremely immature and conservative about sexual material, so it would be negatively received (in public) and get a lot of spiteful attempts to stop it.

Too bad, there’s enough source material out there to make it work…maybe I should take another crack at it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G0OLUOwLSa35g6ytyyO9ZDmz0x_bLFYr/view Quick mock up. No nudity tho

Probably NSFW to click on.

Not bad, not bad at all.

I’ve had more than a few people say part of the problem with Anakin and Padme’s “tragic” love story is that there’s no passion. Lucas, being a bit of a manchild, was obviously really uncomfortable with love scenes in general (he’s said so in interviews that’s not a Star Wars thing) so the best we could have is Hayden reciting out lines like “I’M IN AGONY”.

For the story of a great hero brought down by his passion, we actually have to SEE the passion. Which is basically the problem of the prequels that many many others have already brought up: a lot of talking about things but not showing.

Yea i initially had the same knee jerk reaction, thinking nooo, no nudity lol but then i got thinking about what you were saying (You never expressed wanting nudity) and how to tastefully do it and find myself agreeing. Lucas does too much off screen including Obi and Anakins friendship (I wish we had seen more). A good way to look at it, would be to ask what Titanic would be with out the drawing scene and hand on the car window leaving a print. Iconic. Also, story hinges on seeing them hook up, not just kiss. The only nudity tho was the drawing, the car scene was all suggestive. So i tried to approach it from that sense and the parental guidelines. I mean, we see Iron Man hook up with a girl in the first Iron Man, just the music was more fun than romantic. Pepper even tosses her out like yesterdays trash, and this is Disney. ( I still can’t get past Tony wanting to bring back Prima Nocta, or Arnim Zola calling Widow Fräulein lol )

I still want to do some tweaking tho, fix the audio from Anakins mom and its timing, and try to use some scene of Natalie from No Strings Attached to work in with the scenes of Hayden.

The prequels should’ve focused on Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme specifically. Build up Anakin’s love with Padme, friendship with Obi-Wan, and then have them both fall apart in Sith. Anakin’s jealousy at the end of Sith comes out of nowhere, whereas if it had been built up for 3 movies, it would’ve emotionally resonated. Instead of him literally saying “YOU WILL NOT TAKE HER FROM ME!”

That’s what Lucas INTENDED to happen, but it didn’t quite pan out. This basically started with having Anakin be too young in Phantom; I get Lucas’ intention to show him being “innocent” but it still didn’t work in the long run.

That’s why I say the passion was required. Every line that Anakin said about his emotions, whether it was love for Padme or anger at Obi-Wan, should’ve been SHOWN. Sex with Padme. Rage at Obi-Wan. There was basically only one scene where Lucas figured that out, and that’s the scene before Anakin goes to confront Mace and Palpatine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWYwKa_PxQA

That’s what the prequels needed more of. Less dialogue, more acting. Show the passion and anger and emotion, not recite it.

Agree. I wish we had got Obiwan vs maul on Tatooine. They teased it and never came through with it.

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

thebluefrog said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Id enjoy seeing an R rated Star Wars. Itd be a pain with all the blood simulation but i think id be pretty cool. As a kid i always liked the blood in ANH and wondered why they did away with it in the other movies. Corridor crew did some small quick vids but they were more on the ridiculous side. I later understood that the wounds were being cauterized but still. I miss the bombastic squids used in the 80’s like in Robocop haha

You know, I actually had an idea for an R-rated Star Wars, complete with sex and nudity. It’d be doable with some actors’ other works and deepfaking.

However, we have to be honest, the SW community is extremely immature and conservative about sexual material, so it would be negatively received (in public) and get a lot of spiteful attempts to stop it.

Too bad, there’s enough source material out there to make it work…maybe I should take another crack at it.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1G0OLUOwLSa35g6ytyyO9ZDmz0x_bLFYr/view Quick mock up. No nudity tho

Probably NSFW to click on.

Not bad, not bad at all.

I’ve had more than a few people say part of the problem with Anakin and Padme’s “tragic” love story is that there’s no passion. Lucas, being a bit of a manchild, was obviously really uncomfortable with love scenes in general (he’s said so in interviews that’s not a Star Wars thing) so the best we could have is Hayden reciting out lines like “I’M IN AGONY”.

For the story of a great hero brought down by his passion, we actually have to SEE the passion. Which is basically the problem of the prequels that many many others have already brought up: a lot of talking about things but not showing.

Yea i initially had the same knee jerk reaction, thinking nooo, no nudity lol but then i got thinking about what you were saying (You never expressed wanting nudity) and how to tastefully do it and find myself agreeing. Lucas does too much off screen including Obi and Anakins friendship (I wish we had seen more). A good way to look at it, would be to ask what Titanic would be with out the drawing scene and hand on the car window leaving a print. Iconic. Also, story hinges on seeing them hook up, not just kiss. The only nudity tho was the drawing, the car scene was all suggestive. So i tried to approach it from that sense and the parental guidelines. I mean, we see Iron Man hook up with a girl in the first Iron Man, just the music was more fun than romantic. Pepper even tosses her out like yesterdays trash, and this is Disney. ( I still can’t get past Tony wanting to bring back Prima Nocta, or Arnim Zola calling Widow Fräulein lol )

I still want to do some tweaking tho, fix the audio from Anakins mom and its timing, and try to use some scene of Natalie from No Strings Attached to work in with the scenes of Hayden.

The prequels should’ve focused on Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padme specifically. Build up Anakin’s love with Padme, friendship with Obi-Wan, and then have them both fall apart in Sith. Anakin’s jealousy at the end of Sith comes out of nowhere, whereas if it had been built up for 3 movies, it would’ve emotionally resonated. Instead of him literally saying “YOU WILL NOT TAKE HER FROM ME!”

That’s what Lucas INTENDED to happen, but it didn’t quite pan out. This basically started with having Anakin be too young in Phantom; I get Lucas’ intention to show him being “innocent” but it still didn’t work in the long run.

That’s why I say the passion was required. Every line that Anakin said about his emotions, whether it was love for Padme or anger at Obi-Wan, should’ve been SHOWN. Sex with Padme. Rage at Obi-Wan. There was basically only one scene where Lucas figured that out, and that’s the scene before Anakin goes to confront Mace and Palpatine:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aWYwKa_PxQA

That’s what the prequels needed more of. Less dialogue, more acting. Show the passion and anger and emotion, not recite it.

Agree. I wish we had got Obiwan vs maul on Tatooine. They teased it and never came through with it.

How do you mean it was teased?

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I just found this edit I made a couple years ago, of the confrontation between Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padme.
The sound is pretty bad, but basically:

  • Changed the music under Anakin’s conversation with Padme to emphasize how dangerous he’s become.
  • Anakin chokes Padme simply because he’s paranoid, and Obi-Wan only reveals himself to tell Anakin to stop.
  • Rearranged Obi-Wan’s “lecture” and incorporated clips from the game to make it seem like Obi-Wan cares more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTbXZZsnzM&feature=youtu.be

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Ed Slushie said:

I just found this edit I made a couple years ago, of the confrontation between Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Padme.
The sound is pretty bad, but basically:

  • Changed the music under Anakin’s conversation with Padme to emphasize how dangerous he’s become.
  • Anakin chokes Padme simply because he’s paranoid, and Obi-Wan only reveals himself to tell Anakin to stop.
  • Rearranged Obi-Wan’s “lecture” and incorporated clips from the game to make it seem like Obi-Wan cares more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlTbXZZsnzM&feature=youtu.be

Wow the video game dialogue works really well here, especially since they match the mouth movements.

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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Does anyone know if there’s a way to get the voice lines from the game without background music or SFX?

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Ed Slushie said:

Does anyone know if there’s a way to get the voice lines from the game without background music or SFX?

Insert the PS2 disc into your PC disc drive, then extract the audio samples from the disc’s data.

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

Is there any good lines of dialogue from Dooku or Maul in any of the games? Especially Maul. Would even love to add grunts, growls, and hard breathing to maul and his fight with the Jedi to help to show his intensity. I like the idea of the contrast, especially with him pacing in front of the Jedi behind the shield, it fits him i think.

In Battlefront 2, Dooku has the line “The Count of Serreno, at your service.” which I think would be good to add somewhere so that “Count” doesn’t just seem like a meaningless title.

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Ed Slushie said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Is there any good lines of dialogue from Dooku or Maul in any of the games? Especially Maul. Would even love to add grunts, growls, and hard breathing to maul and his fight with the Jedi to help to show his intensity. I like the idea of the contrast, especially with him pacing in front of the Jedi behind the shield, it fits him i think.

In Battlefront 2, Dooku has the line “The Count of Serreno, at your service.” which I think would be good to add somewhere so that “Count” doesn’t just seem like a meaningless title.

Ill have to try and find that

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

Ed Slushie said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Is there any good lines of dialogue from Dooku or Maul in any of the games? Especially Maul. Would even love to add grunts, growls, and hard breathing to maul and his fight with the Jedi to help to show his intensity. I like the idea of the contrast, especially with him pacing in front of the Jedi behind the shield, it fits him i think.

In Battlefront 2, Dooku has the line “The Count of Serreno, at your service.” which I think would be good to add somewhere so that “Count” doesn’t just seem like a meaningless title.

Ill have to try and find that

I’ll make it easier:
https://youtu.be/tc5CxPyzJnw?t=129

You’ve got to ask yourself one question: “Am I making Carrie Fisher’s ghost proud?”
Well, are ya, punk?

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Ed Slushie said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Ed Slushie said:

TheAlaskanSandman said:

Is there any good lines of dialogue from Dooku or Maul in any of the games? Especially Maul. Would even love to add grunts, growls, and hard breathing to maul and his fight with the Jedi to help to show his intensity. I like the idea of the contrast, especially with him pacing in front of the Jedi behind the shield, it fits him i think.

In Battlefront 2, Dooku has the line “The Count of Serreno, at your service.” which I think would be good to add somewhere so that “Count” doesn’t just seem like a meaningless title.

Ill have to try and find that

I’ll make it easier:
https://youtu.be/tc5CxPyzJnw?t=129

Oh sweet, thank you. Thats not Christopher Lee though is it?

Muclunkey!
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Prequel-Trilogy-Revised-Trailer/id/70831

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Christopher Lee has such a huge collection of films that he probably said “count” somewhere. Humorously not in Dracula, though.

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TheAlaskanSandman said:

Oh sweet, thank you. Thats not Christopher Lee though is it?

That’s Corey Burton, he’s sort of an unofficial “voice double” for Christopher Lee (he voiced Dooku in both Clone Wars series).

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Addendum. I am certain he said “count dracula” in an interview.

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Was there a deleted scene between Obi and Padme talking at her apartment before Anakin arrived. Does it exist somewhere and do we know what they talked about?

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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I saw a snippet in the doco of a deleted scene between Obi and Padme talking at her apartment before Anakin arrived. Does it exist somewhere and do we know what they talked about?

Peace is a lie
There is only passion…

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idir_hh said:

I saw a snippet in the doco of a deleted scene between Obi and Padme talking at her apartment before Anakin arrived. Does it exist somewhere and do we know what they talked about?

If this scene happens before Anakin’s fall, then it’s the one included in the novelization. Obi-Wan just stops by to check in on Anakin, since he feels Anakin isn’t being truthful about his feelings and is worried for him.