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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 336

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Maybe ad in a line to Palpatine’s dialog to Grievous that implies that he is planning to get rid of him.
Sth like:
“Your loyalty won’t be forgotten general”

Although I think that Grievous fate isn’t really important, but I would love to imply that Vader killed him.
This could be done with a close up of Vader’s fist, while hearing Grievous choking followed by the sound of metal hitting the floor. This little sequence could be squeezed in between the hologram scene and Vader’s first appearance on the star destroyer and you could ad Palpatine’s “you have done well Lord Vader” while they are supervising the creation of the Death Star, to finally conclude the chapter of Grievous.

While we’re at it why not include a reference to the clone wars episode about the giant kyber-crystal on Utapau to the hologram scene?

Anyways back to the question, I really think that Grievous fate is really that important and could well be left ambiguous.

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So I was revisiting Anakin Starkiller’s EbSynth test of the abominable prequel Yoda significantly improved with puppet Yoda’s face and I came to appreciate even more just how good it was. I really want to collaborate with him and pursue this idea further! 😃

However, the ESB puppet has atticulation in its eyes that allows it to look in different directions and it seems like that would be difficult to recreate in a deepfake.

I had the idea to mask out the puppet eyes and use the CGI eyes, but it doesn’t look like the puppet anymore… 😕

Anakin Starkiller, can you post some more test clips of the puppet deepfake? I would love to see how it looks in other scenes!

SOLO: A Subtler Remaster of ‘The Bold One’
(My homeworld is Australia so be wary of timezones!)

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I wouldn’t call Prequel Yoda abominable. He looks fine. I’m just editing for consistency. It’s not that he looks bad, it’s that he looks different.

I’m glad you like it though. Unfortunately, it’s not a proper deepfake. It’s just a manually edited frame run through EbSynth. What made is what you got. The process could be repeated, however, although it would be tedious.

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Turn ROTS into a psychological nightmare for Anakin by moving the Palpatine is the Sith Lord reveal to earlier in the movie and show Anakins struggle not to tell anyone because he wants to save Padme all the while trying to maintain the status quo by keeping Palpatine’s identity a secret.
Palpatine would eventually force a choice on Anakins side by provoking the Jedi to take action against him through the creation of the Empire.

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In my edit I’m moving the scene of Anakin visiting Padme to just after “Once more, the Sith shall rule the Galaxy!”, in an attempt to give the viewer a bit more context into where Anakin’s head is at just before the Jedi Temple Massacre. Here’s my proof of concept/test/first version/what I slapped together over lunch.

To this end, I’ve removed any reference to Anakin being just about to leave for Mustafar, or the temple being on fire. He still lies to her about the Jedi betraying the Republic, but in my edit this is just he and Palpatine’s ‘cover story’ rather than anything he legitimately believes. I’ve put the lines about Anakin having found a way to save Padme in here, to remind the viewer that he truly believes that if he goes through with this betrayal of the Jedi, he will be able to save Padme. (I also cut Palpatine’s earlier admission that ‘only one has discovered the secret’ to avoid undermining Anakin’s deal with the devil.)

The audio is still a bit rough - the change in tone and volume from “I won’t lose you Padme” to “Wait for me until I return” is too abrupt - but I’ll tidy it up when I’ve decided I’m happy with the dialogue. Please let me know if you have any criticisms or suggestions.

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Nice! I really like this idea, and what you have is good. Making the lines fit better shouldn’t be too hard with a little more time. Hell, the added lines sound more right in the scene than some lines I know are in the original.

Is Padme knowing Anakin is on Mustafar later going to be an implied force connection or something?

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NFBisms said:
Is Padme knowing Anakin is on Mustafar later going to be an implied force connection or something?

Gah I overlooked that. I could try to shoehorn back in the lines about the Separatists being on Mustafar but I worry that would bring it too close to the original scene and make it too apparent that it’d been moved.

My best bet is probably to redub the security recording Obi-Wan sees so Palpatine specifically tells Anakin to “go to the Mustafar system” to bring peace to the Empire. Since I’m planning on stealing your concept of having Padme intentionally bring Obi-Wan to Mustafar, it can be implied that he told her where to fly to. Of course I’d then have to remove “Do you know where he is now?” and the associated lines from the scene of Obi-Wan visiting Padme. It would recontextualise that scene somewhat, since there’d no longer be any tension around Padme revealing Anakin’s location. I suppose it’d suggest that Obi-Wan is just visiting her as a concerned friend - perhaps also to get her help with trying to redeem Anakin, though I’m not sure if the dialogue really implies that. Bringing her to Mustafar is probably recklessly endangering her life, but she’s no stranger to that after Naboo, Geonosis and The Clone Wars.

It’s something JJ Abrams probably wouldn’t have worried about… 😉

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I would just keep the Mustafar lines honestly. It’s not a huge deal if he doesn’t go straight there, and I even like how it’d be Anakin lying more explicitly to Padme.

How are you planning to handle the transitions? I might even want to try this in my own edit…

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Idea for a radical edit of ROTS:

Move the reveal of Palpatine’s real identity to as early in the movie as possible and show Anakin’s struggle to stay loyal to the Jedi, because he knows that they would kill his only hope to save his wife and children.
The aim is to portray Anakin’s downfall as a result of his incapability to make a choice out of fear of the consequences and his unwillingness to accept his lack of control.

To achieve this I would open the movie on Coruscant with Palpatine’s scheming and the spy plot up to the opera scene, but minus any mention of Anakin’s nightmares or Yoda’s department to Kashyyyk. Directly after Palpatine’s “not from a Jedi” line soft transition to Anakin and Padmé talking at night and the following scene with Yoda.

After this cut to Anakin visiting the chancellor to ask him to hear Padmé’s plea to let diplomacy resume. Add implying dialog to the beginning of Palpatine’s reveal as the Sith Lord. Directly afterwards play Anakin’s second nightmare scene. (maybe I can make Anakin imply that the chancellor won’t react to the senator’s appeal)

After this we see Yoda leaving coruscant and show the third scene from the seeds of the rebellion plot line.
Then use Dooku’s arrival on Coruscant from AOTC as a transition to the separatist attack. Use Grievous’ “our hostage has arrived” line from the Malevolence arc and add “with Count Dooku” or something like that.
Then tweak Palpatine’s dialog before Anakin beheads Dooku to make him more “sith-y”.

After they have crashed on Coruscant cut most of Anakin and Obi-Wan talking and Anakin’s reunion with Padmé, cut directly to Grievous arriving on Utapau and the council discussing on who they are going to send.
I would like to keep Anakin’s wish to go, but without any advice from the chancellor. Ideally he would say something like “I want to go”, because he looks at it as an opportunity to escape the influence of both Palpatine and the Jedi.
It would also underline that the Jedi do not grant Anakin an opportunity to face his inner darkness for which Grievous serves as a beautiful allegory, since he is a literal proto-Vader and more machine than man.

Last but not least, change the councils reason to make a move against Palpatine. Let him create the Empire to force the Jedi to go against him and force Anakin to pick a side.

I hope I managed to express myself somewhat comprehensible, I would like to hear some of your thoughts on this slightly overambitious idea for a bad editor like me 😄
Well, you grow with the challenge, right?

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I think starting on anything but the Battle of Coruscant is a massive mistake. It’s a perfect opening, and I suspect it’d be extremely hard to integrate smoothly later on.

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I was experimenting with a shot from TCW that shew Grievous fleet leaving hyperspace from the bridge of a republic cruiser.
Starting with the pan down on the cruiser followed by the separatist fleet approaching and Grievous introduction from ROTS (new dialog) turned out alright. Nonetheless it is a massive shift of pace and some shots of the space battle heating up would greatly benefit the flow. By now I have only experimented a little with TCW footage which obviously looked a bit off. But I might look into this again.

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Sidious Revealed

The eye flicker is not deliberate; this is just a proof of concept/unpolished test.
I think it’s too fast so I’ll have to spread the transformation over multiple shots - perhaps have him go halfway to Sidious in this shot, and then take one of the later shots of the Sidious prosthetics and see if I can’t edit it to start out with him still only partially transformed.

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Yes, very interesting…

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.

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The eye flicker is not deliberate; this is just a proof of concept/unpolished test.
I think it’s too fast so I’ll have to spread the transformation over multiple shots - perhaps have him go halfway to Sidious in this shot, and then take one of the later shots of the Sidious prosthetics and see if I can’t edit it to start out with him still only partially transformed.

OH MY GOODNESS! Looks better than the makeup!

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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To steal an idea from NFBism’s thread: here’s a test of Appo.

I couldn’t get the perspective right on the arrow in the close-up. If anyone of a more artistic inclination could photoshop a single frame of Appo to have a correct looking arrow, that’d be extremely useful.

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Wow, I didn’t think anyone was going to do my Appo idea right after I mention it lmao! Sade, is it alright if I use it? Saves me a lot of time.

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Sure, I’ll send it to you in full quality once I’ve polished it some more. If you have any other ideas for VFX (which could easily be done with the Lockdown plugin) let me know.

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When Anakin is in padmes apartment looking at a tablet it would be cool to make it so he is checking in on Ashoka on mandalore, like Rex reporting through a recorded message or something

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Nah, I prefer the idea that he’s playing Persona on his PSP in a vain attempt to take his mind off the fact that his life is crumbling around him.

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Lol yeah, I remember thinking in the theater in 2005 at 1:30AM “lol wut, Anakin’s playing GBA?”

Well done. I will disengage self-destruct initiative.