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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 312

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Anakin Starkiller said:

That color correction is just…groan.

Constructive as always.

It does seem like you went a little overboard removing the blue, Paja. Much like Ady did with the Death Star walls in ANH:R. Makes it look less visually interesting - too many whites and beiges and grays.

a trolling bantha

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Anakin Starkiller said:

That color correction is just…groan.

I won’t lie brother you really aren’t very nice a lot of the time

Hot take: The Force Awakens is in no way, shape or form a rehash or remake of A New Hope.
It’s no more derivative than the average sequel, and is certainly less derivative than the prequels.

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ChainsawAsh said:

Anakin Starkiller said:

That color correction is just…groan.

Constructive as always.

It does seem like you went a little overboard removing the blue, Paja. Much like Ady did with the Death Star walls in ANH:R. Makes it look less visually interesting - too many whites and beiges and grays.

I personally like all the whites and beiges and grays.

“I believe in copyright, within limited precincts. But I also believe in fair use, public domain, and especially transformation.” — David Shields

“To be good and lead a good life means to give to others more than one takes from them.” — Leo Tolstoy

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I like it!

“I believe in copyright, within limited precincts. But I also believe in fair use, public domain, and especially transformation.” — David Shields

“To be good and lead a good life means to give to others more than one takes from them.” — Leo Tolstoy

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Wait, what did you add? Haven’t seen the film in ages.

Oh and I’m really sorry about my harsh words earlier. I’ll try to be nicer next time.

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That’s really cool, Snooker! And it also works as a cool 2001 homage/Easter egg too. Definitely like it.

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wow it’s a great mock-up, aggelw do the same thing too
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Kubrik-Cameo-216110528
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Retro-Bubble-216114502
I always like the idea of retro-ing the whole prequel trilogy
can you make like this too? but make it differ
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Vader-Prisoned-217140895
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Vader-Cyber-mask-217141156
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Vader-Head-Fixed-217140961
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https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/No-holograms-216116947
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Hyperspace-216062479
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Monitor-Check-216110032
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(i’m not forcing you)

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charlesdavid08 said:

wow it’s a great mock-up, aggelw do the same thing too
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Kubrik-Cameo-216110528
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Retro-Bubble-216114502
I always like the idea of retro-ing the whole prequel trilogy
can you make like this too? but make it differ
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Vader-Prisoned-217140895
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Vader-Cyber-mask-217141156
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Vader-Head-Fixed-217140961
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https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/No-holograms-216116947
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Hyperspace-216062479
https://www.deviantart.com/aggeiw/art/Monitor-Check-216110032
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(i’m not forcing you)

Wow, I really love these! I’m gonna try this

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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The sound redesign was impressive, but man Williams really saves that fight. Without music, it helped me notice just how bad the choreography of the whole fight is. The fight in Empire is so good they didn’t even use music for most of it. I’m mad.

Gone fishing

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snooker said:

The sound redesign was impressive, but man Williams really saves that fight. Without music, it helped me notice just how bad the choreography of the whole fight is. The fight in Empire is so good they didn’t even use music for most of it. I’m mad.

The AotC and RotS fights are probably the worst because they oscillate from moves that feel functional and historically inspired to move that would fit in Final Fantasy.

Without the music to deal with, I think that making the fight functional is finally a possibility.

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The prequels aesthetic is wrong. It isn’t ‘Star Wars’. The Disney movies feel like ‘Star Wars’ aesthetically, with ‘old tech’ and film grain and location shooting. I just can’t make the prequels ‘feel like Star Wars’ in my mind.

Gone fishing

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Yes, the choreography alone might not be able to stand on its own, but music removal tests like these could be useful for rescoring. I felt this could be particularly useful for editors who remove the Yoda/Sidious duel, to maybe make the music transitions more seamless.

I also wanted to share a thought I had in response to Snooker’s 2001 Easter egg as well as some of Angel’s mock-ups. That is the kind of stuff that is really exciting to see. For Snooker, paja or others, if you share more mock ups, I’d love for you to make high quality versions of them, if you’re willing. It’d be great for people to save them for future projects. Snooker’s “Theed in Flames” is one that comes to mind that I would love to use eventually. It reminds me of a lot of Bingowings’ early mock-ups.

Something I’m interested in are things that make the prequels feel a little more retro and in-line with the OT’s aesthetic. Some of those Angel mock-ups remind me of that, and Snooker’s 2001 shot does that as well. Would love to see more stuff like that.

EDIT: I wrote this before I saw your most recent post Snooker! Ironic we both were thinking about that. I don’t mind the prequels aesthetic being a bit different, with the argument of it being the golden age of the Republic at all, but I think more details were changed that helped bridge that gap, it would help the prequels feel more related to the OT, if that makes sense. Something I would love to see in particular would be a total overhaul of holograms, display screens, etc. that made it more reminiscent to the OT’s retro displays.

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snooker said:

The sound redesign was impressive, but man Williams really saves that fight. Without music, it helped me notice just how bad the choreography of the whole fight is. The fight in Empire is so good they didn’t even use music for most of it. I’m mad.

Williams even scored parts of the ESB fight that were removed in the edit. It’s really kind of indicative of how much the PT turned Williams music from a support into a crutch.

This is really cool though.

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snooker said:

The prequels aesthetic is wrong. It isn’t ‘Star Wars’. The Disney movies feel like ‘Star Wars’ aesthetically, with ‘old tech’ and film grain and location shooting. I just can’t make the prequels ‘feel like Star Wars’ in my mind.

Yeah. I mean it’s one thing to do “something different,” which is what all the PT fans say makes it great. But it’s not a little different, it’s practically entirely different. Which is too bad and there’s only so much that can be done.

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DominicCobb said:

snooker said:

The prequels aesthetic is wrong. It isn’t ‘Star Wars’. The Disney movies feel like ‘Star Wars’ aesthetically, with ‘old tech’ and film grain and location shooting. I just can’t make the prequels ‘feel like Star Wars’ in my mind.

Yeah. I mean it’s one thing to do “something different,” which is what all the PT fans say makes it great. But it’s not a little different, it’s practically entirely different. Which is too bad and there’s only so much that can be done.

Not quite, as there are fans who have made pretty good fan films. I think that theoretically it could be possible for a fan in the future to shoot new material for a prequel edit and it would look pretty good if it were to be Color corrected and shot using a camera similar to the original one.

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Do not go gentle into that good night. “Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.” - SilverWook Feel the love.

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Yeah, personal video/editing technology has improved a lot, even just in the past ten years. With enough patience and ingenuity, I think we could be capable of a lot.

I think a big thing is just deciding what exactly we want to accomplish.

For example, one goal we might have is to make the prequels look and feel more like the originals. So how do we do that? We need to define what gives the originals that look and feeling, and then lay out what we can do to the prequels to replicate that. Retrofying the prequels is one idea, and we’ve seen that is doable in certain ways through a variety of past mock-ups.

Some might say reshooting certain scenes might be called for. I would first want us to try and articulate why we feel it would improve the film, or bring them or in line with the OT.

For example, one recent idea I had was shooting new shots for Anakin Mustafar massacre to make him kill more Jedi on screen instead of just killing the Separatists. Like Zerome mentioned, trying to match the quality and cinematography would be important to try and make it seamless. I would personally think trying to copy the exacts same shots that we’re replacing would be the best way to do that. Don’t make the cinematography ‘too flashy’ compared to the rest of the movie.

I would love to see how Ady can make his new footage be seamless with the rest of ROTJ:Revisited. I think that would be a great example to learn from for future editors as well.

I think once we clearly define what we think that OT-style is, and how the PT is lacking that, it will be easier for us to approach what we can work on to help bridge that gap. FX, music, color, film grain, there are a lot of different things that might contribute to that.

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special effects and cuts that i want too see in the fan edit of prequel trilogy.
My Dream List:
-clone troopers with actual costume
-replacing screen display with 70s or Ot style schematics
-Less Holograms(please cgi-remove the hologram in the cockpit), touchscreens (replace with a buttons) and flying ships in the sky
-a little bit ray harryhausen style especially a Battle Droids and other creatures like gungans,giant monsters in geonosis, and genosians,
-make Grievous look cool like in the cartoon version of clone wars, make him tough or reboot him as darth maul.
-deepfakes hayden christensen lol ( i want to see him more as starfighter to prove obi wan’s says in the ANH and jedi knight in the revenge of the sith and aotc Or other characters too like yoda, count dooku (improve his character)
-less yoda jumping and lightsabers
-Improved CGI Effects
-make the tone of the sounds like in 70s
-Make Clieg Lars Look like a Good Man and he really loved Shmi Skywalker
-a little Dub of other Characters
(Improve Dialogs)
-make other backgrounds like matte painting.
-add new cgi and practical effects
-replace a crappy cgi creatures with a practical effects
-practical effects Ships
-Removed Chewbacca or reboot him as different wookie or his dad lol
-replace the pod racing commentators with an actual humans
-Remove a Photobombing cgi droids and creatures.
-Extend Battle Scene in Geonosis (and with space battle lol?) (make the whole battle happen at night?)
-add a new scenes of Jedi Purging Like anakin and clone troopers killing a teenage Jedis and adults in the temple and more jedi killings outside
-Extended Scene of Sand People Purging? and Qui Gon Jinn force ghost appear and Anakin didnt notice him?
-Make the whole battle in naboo Dark
-rewrite JarJar as interesting character like replace other scenes with new cgi that not goofy,redub him sounds like an edgy, rewrite his background of why he banished like he exiled because he is jerk and troublemaker in his place.
-Cgi-Remove mace’ Fellow jedi in Darth Sidious Scene, only mace wants to arrest or kill him
-improve anakin and padme love story with look alike actors,deepfakes,sound alike dubbing.
-can anyone try to Remove Zoom-in in every Scenes?
-Make the Contrast,Colors,Brightness in episode 2 and 3 feels like OT
The colors is the only problem in Episode 1.
-new scene in the of how clone troopers retired or endangered?
(Like the first generation of rebels or other jedi blows up the Clone Factory and Base)?
-Introduction of Storm Trooper with Ralph Mcquarrie concept art as phase one trooper costume?
-new scenes of tarkin?
-replace the whole vader scene after he wore the suit to cover the nooooooo scene
-Bail Married Padme? And Padme Survived?
-add a new scenes of z-95 starfighters because its a predecessor of x-wing next to arc 170
-reused other scifi movies scenes from 60s,70s and 80s?
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Please #SaveThePrequels Guys and Gals
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If im a millionare or billionare and can edit a video, i really want to do this.

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Please do this

I can answer almost all questions anyone might have about the Sith from Star Wars Legends, and please do PM me for the bd25 DEED(Despecalised Editions), as I have this version, though I can’t answer technical questions about them. Auntie Derry/Rumpelstiltskin.
Do not go gentle into that good night, Though wise men at their end know dark is right, They
Do not go gentle into that good night. “Star Wars is a buffet, enjoy the stuff you want, and leave the rest.” - SilverWook Feel the love.

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charlesdavid08 said:

New Special Effects and cuts that i want too see in the fan edit of prequel trilogy.
My Dream List:
-make Grievous look cool like in the cartoon version of clone wars, make him tough or reboot him as darth maul.
-deepfakes hayden christensen lol ( i want to see him more as starfighter like to prove obi wan’s says in the ANH and jedi knight in the revenge of the sith and aotc Or other characters too like yoda, count dooku (improve his character)
-make the tone of the sounds like in 70s
-a little Dub of other Characters
-Cgi-Remove mace’ Fellow jedi in Darth Sidious Scene, only mace wants to arrest or kill him
-Make the Contrast,Colors,Brightness in episode 2 and 3 feels like OT
-new scene in the of how clone troopers retired or endangered?
-replace the whole vader scene after he wore the suit to cover the nooooooo scene
Padme Survived?

These are doable, the rest seems really tough to get right but I’m certain that these changes can be made by one guy. If only adywan was still on the case, then we’d get real practical sets and such.

Prequel Fan-Edit thread: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Yet-another-series-of-prequel-edits/id/17329

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I think it is important to really define why we feel certain changes will benefit being made, and try not to overload ourselves with changes for the sake of change.

Like some of those changes might seem cool on paper, but a lot of them seem like things you’d start working on but then eventually realize it is either not worth the effort or it isn’t as cool or effective as you originally thought it would be.

So maybe start small, and pick a few things that are in the realm of possibility, before moving on to bigger, more challenging ideas.

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I’d like to see a successful Deepfaking of Anakin, or indeed any character. I’ve been thinking of doing Hulk now that it’s established that it’s Mark Ruffalo and not Norton in that universe. If it can be done with anyone in SW it’d demonstrate proof of concept.