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The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 30

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DuTwan said: 

Dooku being a Sith is a good idea, remember Sidious only uses Dooku to start the war and Dooku is but a 'nesserary loss'. Making him a rogue jedi starts bringing up issues like 'grey' jedi etc.

 

Surely Palpatine's description of his former master as someone who could "Save the ones he loved" (not forgetting the possibility he could be lying through his teeth) creates a grey area for the Sith too.

There could be a strong case made for lapsed Jedi who don't fully accept and participate in the Sith way of life but act in ways which could be described as evil, just as much as wavering Sith who embrace Sith teachings but aren't totally and irredeemably evil like Darths Plagueis and Vader.

It adds a level of complexity to their roles which lends credibility to Anakin/Vader's fall.

It makes it easier to believe (even through Hayden's flimsy performance) that Anakin is sincere when he comes to the conclusion that the Jedi are evil and that acting the way he does is for a greater good. The Jedi certainly share some responsibility for how Anakin turns out and going by the way Yoda and Obi-Wan rather wantonly manipulate Luke, it's a lesson they don't ever truly learn from.

In a sense the chosen one role of Anakin, bringing the force into balance (something some editors want to remove) creates the polarised world of light and shade we see in the OT out of a more grey world in the PT.

Good and evil exist throughout the saga but in the PT the division between them is more murky.

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Jason, I initially disliked the notion of Yoda having a purple saber, but the more I think about it, the more it makes a brilliant kind of sense. Putting Yoda, Dooku, and Mace on the same level like that heightens the dramatic tension and also dispels the "huh??" effect upon seeing green & blue sabers galore, but only one purple blade. I'd definitely encourage you to pursue this idea, radical though it may be.

Looking forward to your edits! :)

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Impressive. Most impressive.

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Just one more sidenote about Council members having puple lightsabers.  To rationalize this idea, it may make sense in a battlefield situation for other Jedi to distinguish who is "leading the charge" in a potentially confusing situation.  The downside to this would be the enemy could also easily pick them out. 

Regardless, I have no problem with Dooku, Mace and Yoda or any other council member or "Advanced Jedi" having purple lightsabers.  Akwat Kbrana is right, it only serves to strengthen the Dooku element of the story.  It's a testament to how high a level he had attained in the order.

What about Ki-Adi Mundi?  We see him with a lightsaber in ROTS.  Maybe his should be purple too? 

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InfoDroid said:

Just one more sidenote about Council members having puple lightsabers.  To rationalize this idea, it may make sense in a battlefield situation for other Jedi to distinguish who is "leading the charge" in a potentially confusing situation.  The downside to this would be the enemy could also easily pick them out. 

Regardless, I have no problem with Dooku, Mace and Yoda or any other council member or "Advanced Jedi" having purple lightsabers.  Akwat Kbrana is right, it only serves to strengthen the Dooku element of the story.  It's a testament to how high a level he had attained in the order.

What about Ki-Adi Mundi?  We see him with a lightsaber in ROTS.  Maybe his should be purple too? 

Making purple a sign of rank would seem confusing. A whole lot of the Jedi action we see are indeed masters on the council, so purple would not stand out that much. Also, would Obi get a purple blade when he achieves that rank?

 

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RoccondilRinonThe Pink Five films aren't EU canon, they're fanon. A character implied to be Stacey appears in an EU novel, that's as close as it gets to EU.

 

Again i copy paste this from ESB:R thread to keep it clean.

So Aayla secura and Master Vos( only by name in ROTS) should be eliminated?

 

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TheBoost said:

Also, would Obi get a purple blade when he achieves that rank?

 

 

Yeah, there you've got an intersting point!

Obi-Wan with a purple lightsaber? That would be looking gay^^

Then you have to work on his saber in A New Hope as well...

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Yoda shouldn't have a green light saber because when i see it's like Lucas thought "well he's green his light saber should be green too! the kids will like that!"

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i don't know i think yoda lightsaber kinds of reflects his wisdom and power and if any editor was to make all pt lightsabers blue, show the rarity of his race and his lightsaber.

ok look i just want all the pt lightsabers blue minus yoda tp gove more meaning to what vader said to luke about his lightsaber

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Darth Piccolo said:

ok look i just want all the pt lightsabers blue minus yoda tp gove more meaning to what vader said to luke about his lightsaber

He didn't say anything about the meaning/s of the color of Luke's new lightsaber - all he said was that Luke had constructed a new lightsaber and that his skills were now complete (ergo, that constructing a lightsaber was somehow the final step or task of a Jedi's abilities).

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JasonN said:
Darth Piccolo said:

ok look i just want all the pt lightsabers blue minus yoda tp gove more meaning to what vader said to luke about his lightsaber

He didn't say anything about the meaning/s of the color of Luke's new lightsaber - all he said was that Luke had constructed a new lightsaber and that his skills were now complete (ergo, that constructing a lightsaber was somehow the final step or task of a Jedi's abilities).

but then there is the line "indeed you are powerful as the emperor foresees" which implies that luke had created a rare lightsaber that is different from any other jedi lightsaber (color)

 

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TheBoost said:

Making purple a sign of rank would seem confusing. A whole lot of the Jedi action we see are indeed masters on the council, so purple would not stand out that much. Also, would Obi get a purple blade when he achieves that rank?

Why would it seem confusing?  If anything, it eliminates the confusion as to why a purple lightsaber even exists.

Things tend to be less confusing when they have a known purpose.  Think of it like the karate color belt system.  Yellow belts, green belts, black belts...  It's the same concept, earned for the level of mastery they've achieved.  Think of how the purple stands out in a shot like the Geonosian arena during the charge, or the subsequent battle where there are many Jedi on the battlefield.

And no, Obi-Wan wouldn't have one because (it seemed to me anyway) he was just "filling in" on the council during wartime.  And of course Anakin wouldn't get one because they don't grant him the rank of Master. 

Then again, not every master is on the council either.  Look at Qui-Gon.  So, maybe it's reserved for only the top official council members only.  Who knows?  You could come up with any explanation you want to.  Anything would be better than having only one as it is now.   

 

 

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Darth Piccolo said:

my stab at otzing the prequel with color similar to vader's manips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCT1g5J6n48&fmt=18

also off topic, anyone else notice similarity with this scene and the cantina scene in anh

 

Similiar?  Hanging out in some bar full of people and aliens and having Obiwan cut down an attacker?  I don't really see the similarities..

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Sluggo said:
Darth Piccolo said:

my stab at otzing the prequel with color similar to vader's manips

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCT1g5J6n48&fmt=18

also off topic, anyone else notice similarity with this scene and the cantina scene in anh

 

Similiar?  Hanging out in some bar full of people and aliens and having Obiwan cut down an attacker?  I don't really see the similarities..

that is exactly it

 

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I like the Music tho ;) Also a good thing is to get rid the damn droid soccer as well.

 

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Trooperman made an amazing edit of the Bar scene, I saw the clip a few years back. Hopfully It will be re uploaded again by paul.

He mixed in some blade runner, color corection, and flipped shots(And new music) to make the scene feel OT. One funny edit he did was when obi one said "go and find her" Anakin(who is dubed by Trooperman) says his line execpt the changling part which makes obiwans next line very funny.

God I want to see that movie.......

If you want some good ideas for the PT to feel OT, mainly AOTC, then head over to the Shroud of the Dark Side thread. This was not an advertisment lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7-UrBXp9o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOzZ-MkX27I

These are two unfinished clips from the movie, youtube quality does not do it justice. It feels so OT to me. Mind you the 2nd clips color corection is a bit off and will be fixed.

Got idea's now.

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Josh said:

Trooperman made an amazing edit of the Bar scene, I saw the clip a few years back. Hopfully It will be re uploaded again by paul.

He mixed in some blade runner, color corection, and flipped shots(And new music) to make the scene feel OT. One funny edit he did was when obi one said "go and find her" Anakin(who is dubed by Trooperman) says his line execpt the changling part which makes obiwans next line very funny.

Where! I want to see it!

 

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So do I. I followed that thread from day one (I was not a member though) And I can tell you it will be the best edit out of the the PT, Even adywan lended his hand for making FX for the climax.

 

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NOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!! That's a joke made by a fan years back, after he saw the clip and overdubbed the dubed anakin, and made other alterations.FAKE! But funny lol.

The music and color, and most of the editing is real.

 

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It was the nearest thing I could find that matched the description.

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It's K lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty7-UrBXp9o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOzZ-MkX27I

Lets see: For the whole movie-

He Recorded some of his own music

Added fotage from others films such as dune and blade runner, you won't notice

Mace has a blue saber

New Climax

Color correction

Completely diffrent Movie(Go to the thread to see how characters changed)

Anakin has a vision of his mother's death (you can see it)

And a whole buch of other epic things!!!!

Yes, I'm a little obsessed, but I have that much faith in the movie, as it re writes the fabric of the PT. As if it was made in the 70's.

 

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