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I just made it in four steps to show how I did it. But yes, the one on the right bottom is what I intended to do
The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 216
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could we have an 8 track included?
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... Now do it in motion ;)
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mithrandir, these are some of my old vids, where i had a stab at the vintage HUDS. same trick on both.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kvr5vhFm0-w&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VASUJhw-qOc&feature=channel_video_title
why customise what is there when something different could be inserted? i'mgoing to try some cuts from 2001 and such films possibly to a similar point.
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I like what you did there. You retro-ized the Slave's clusters too didn't you?
IMO, at some point the republic was still less industrial than the Empire times. Besides, as a Jedi ObiWan doesn't need too many computers on board, that's why I put no wires nor pipes inside the cockpit. I like the simple design of my cockpit which looks civile against the more complex OT designs (I put just two screens and a couple of buttons), but I also like what you achieved in your vid (the old CRT screens against what I made, which look like LCD, it wasn't my intention at all tho, and the metalic/chromed pieces around the screens)
Anyway, it's just a difference in an aesthetical perception/opinion, tho I see we both agree that all those translucid displays and stuff, even as cool as they look, don't fit in SW.
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Just wonderin',
123222? HD DVD9?
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<blockquote><p><strong>RoccondilRinon</strong> said:</p><p>It's mainly a matter of changing the name, so that its destruction in ANH is more effective. Back when I first heard about the prequels in '97, I thought we'd get to see a fair bit of Alderaan, but as it is we see one side-character from the planet, who's only really important in the last act of Episode III, and maybe thirty seconds on the planet itself.</p></blockquote><p> </p>
I really like the idea of including Alderaan. Then when Tarkin announces he will test the Death Star on Alderaan, we can imagine Vader behind his mask standing there powerless to stop it, the start of his silent struggle with his emotional conflict. Tarkin may be ignorant of Vader's connection to Alderaan or just that cruel. After Leia bluffs "Dantooine," Tarkin says, "see Lord Vader, she can be reasonable." Vader nods and we can imagine his relief. Then Tarkin orders the destruction of Alderaan. Vader stands silently - in shock we can imagine. Vader places his hand on Leia's shoulder and pulls her back to him, a sign of empathy and an expression of his own need for something to hold onto at that moment. The scene works quite beautifully if Naboo were Alderaan.
Another radical change would be to have a coherent story arc throughout all 3 episodes focusing on the downfall of the Jedi. The Jedi would be self-motivated protectors of the Republic but far from central to it. The Jedi would be on the way out at the very start. The depiction of Jedi would be far more religious (think OT Ben and Yoda) than political or warrior-like. It would be clear that many people don't believe in the Force and the people of the galaxy have a love-hate relationship with the Jedi - many are ambivalent or ignorant of them.
The Jedi would have a resurgence of support in Episode II when the Clone Wars erupt, necessitating Jedi help by Chancellor Palpatine. The actual threat of the war (not a make-believe war nonsensically orchestrated) would be used to solidify power and put an end to the Jedi at the end of Episode III. I would like to work some ideas out as a script at some point, though memories of the PT seems to cast a pall on many of my thoughts. Also there is the trouble of dialogue. I'm not much more than an interpreter and not very good at telling stories.
The blue elephant in the room.
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Some very interesting ideas Mrbo, but do you think they'd be possible with the material there is?
Personally, I like that the Clone Wars were orchestrated by Palpatine. It's one of the better executed elements of the PT, I think. I agree with you though that a more coherent storyline over the three movies would be better, but I think a focus on Anakin's fall would be better. Why should we care about an organization we don't know that much about to start with? At least we've seen Anakin's rise (somewhat) through the movies.
My idea for the PT would be this: make the Trade Federation in TPM the first Separatists. They blockade Naboo because they want to use the planet's resources for the war they plan to wage against the Republic.
In AOTC, we learn that despite Naboo's victory over the Separatists, the movement has only grown and an arms race has taken place: the Separatists are upping their production of droids and the Republic has created a clone army. The vote Amidala returns to Coruscant for is whether or not to deploy the army on Republic worlds.
ROTS would play out pretty much the same.
A few concepts I'm thinking about (some I picked up in this thread):
Remove the virgin birth and Midichlorians, but keep the Prophecy. I think it adds a bit of mythology to the PT. The PT has no "history".
Have Jango Fett be nameless in AOTC and have him be hired by Sidious to lure the Jedi to Geonosis to start the war, to take away any confusion about what was actually Palpatine's plan, and what was coincidence.
Show Sidious' "Emperor" face in the holograms to add to the surprise that Palpatine is Sidious.
Have Bail Organa be the one to give Palpatine emergency powers. It would make his character a bit more integral to the story, but would also give him a motivation to start the Rebellion in ROTS.
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Apologies if this has been mentioned/heavily discussed before but wouldn't it be cool if the reason for Anakin's downfall could be that Padme actually died in that explosion in AOTC instead of her decoy? So the premonitions Anakin is having are actually of that.
Its a much less stupid way for her to die and Anakin has some motivation given that there was actually someone responsible for her death.
Probably impossible to do because Luke and Leia would have to be born first and other such plotholes.
I would probably have a go at this if I knew what I was doing, perhaps a 3 in 1 edit with some stuff from the OT to pad things out might work somehow.
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^Padme explosion death has crossed my mind before. It could link in nicely if the twins are born and are 10ish by the end of ROTS. Anakin could believe the twins die in the explosion too.
I was for ages scratching my head to think if Jake Lloyd could play a young luke.
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Well, he certainly couldn't play a young Luke well...
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I had an utterly bonkers idea for edit of the whole saga while playing Ocarina Of Time.
In the game Link starts out as a small child and essentially put to sleep for seven years and wakes up in an adult body but with only the same memories but can travel back to being his younger self.
This got me thinking.
What if time travel was introduced into a Star Wars edit and more bizarrely what if Luke was Anakin Skywalker using an alias?
He starts off as a small boy raised by his mother and not knowing who his father is.
He is sent to live with his Aunt and Uncle to keep him safe because the Jedi senses something odd about him and refuse to train him at that point and grows up to become Luke from ANH.
He meets Obi-Wan finds out about Vader, sees Ben Killed but hears him in his head, blows up the Death Star etc
But when he goes into the cave in Dagobah he becomes Anakin Teenager.
He lives through the Clone Wars falls in love with a senator turns to the dark side and Pregnant Padme goes into the cave on Dagobah and wakes up as Shmi on Tatooine.
Luke puts this all down to a bizarre dream (part of his training) but when he encounters Vader on Bespin he finds out Vader is his father but he knows he is also Vader (he is his own Father).
He then has to redeem himself.
Not sure how it would work but it's certainly an idea I haven't heard anybody else coming up with.
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Bingowings said:
I had an utterly bonkers idea for edit of the whole saga while playing Ocarina Of Time.
In the game Link starts out as a small child and essentially put to sleep for seven years and wakes up in an adult body but with only the same memories but can travel back to being his younger self.
This got me thinking.
What if time travel was introduced into a Star Wars edit and more bizarrely what if Luke was Anakin Skywalker using an alias?
He starts off as a small boy raised by his mother and not knowing who his father is.
He is placed sent live with his Aunt and Uncle to keep him safe and grows up to become Luke from ANH.
He meets Obi-Wan finds out about Vader, sees Ben Killed but hears him in his head, blows up the Death Star etc
But when he goes into the cave in Dagobah he becomes Anakin Teenager.
He lives through the Clone Wars falls in love with a senator turns to the dark side and Pregnant Padme goes into the cave on Dagobah and wakes up as Shmi on Tatooine.
Luke puts this all down to a bizarre dream (part of his training) but when he encounters Vader on Bespin he finds out Vader is his father but he knows he is also Vader (he is his own Father).
He then has to redeem himself.
Not sure how it would work but it's certainly an idea I haven't heard anybody else coming up with.
This would only work if a camera slowly shot down at a laying Chewbacca covered in rose petels.
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Bingowings said:
I had an utterly bonkers idea for edit of the whole saga while playing Ocarina Of Time.
In the game Link starts out as a small child and essentially put to sleep for seven years and wakes up in an adult body but with only the same memories but can travel back to being his younger self.
This got me thinking.
What if time travel was introduced into a Star Wars edit and more bizarrely what if Luke was Anakin Skywalker using an alias?
He starts off as a small boy raised by his mother and not knowing who his father is.
He is placed sent live with his Aunt and Uncle to keep him safe and grows up to become Luke from ANH.
He meets Obi-Wan finds out about Vader, sees Ben Killed but hears him in his head, blows up the Death Star etc
But when he goes into the cave in Dagobah he becomes Anakin Teenager.
He lives through the Clone Wars falls in love with a senator turns to the dark side and Pregnant Padme goes into the cave on Dagobah and wakes up as Shmi on Tatooine.
Luke puts this all down to a bizarre dream (part of his training) but when he encounters Vader on Bespin he finds out Vader is his father but he knows he is also Vader (he is his own Father).
He then has to redeem himself.
Not sure how it would work but it's certainly an idea I haven't heard anybody else coming up with.
What the frak you smoking dude?
... I want some!
Bingowings said: Do you want to see the project finished as a playable film or a flick book?
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I assure you I haven't smoked anything but was pulled the whole idea from a mixture of playing Zelda and listening to to Heinlein audiobooks.
I apologise for the nest of typos in my original post.
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I dunno. Time travel doesn't seem like something that would be introduced in Star Wars. It just wouldn't work. If it did, there would be all these issues with why didn't the Empire figure this out? Could Obi-Wan have stopped Palpatine early? etc...
No, leave time travel to Star Trek
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TV's Frink said:
Well, he certainly couldn't play a young Luke well...
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^I stand corrected. ;-)
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WhatsMyName said:
I dunno. Time travel doesn't seem like something that would be introduced in Star Wars. It just wouldn't work. If it did, there would be all these issues with why didn't the Empire figure this out? Could Obi-Wan have stopped Palpatine early? etc...
No, leave time travel to Star Trek
Oh come on.
It's admittedly a bonkers idea but for a fan edit not a bonfire of the original saga.
And it's not conventional time travel it's time travel via the Force which would make it more like reincarnation (different faces the same person...actually that sounds less like Star Trek and more like...).
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Interesting. At least it looks official and now we can have the excuse that is in a star wars game for originality.
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/jedi-knight-star-wars/712242
It might be a good idea for the kids(if any edit keeps them) have the train-y sabers like the one of the video(solid something) if not white as some others suggested :)
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Check out this video at the 2:16 mark for a little treat that I expect to be included on the Blu-Rays
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Why bothering fixing yoda when all the rest of the visuals doesnt match with the rest 2 movies? :P
Maybe they will do that in the next edition hopefully :)
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I thought CG-Yoda in TPM on BR was a well accepted fact.
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Accept nothing until it is announced. Even that little clip makes the prequels tie in together a little better.
Now if we could just also have them reshoot TPM with no Qui-gon, and have Obi and a teenage Anakin be the ones who are sent to Naboo, we would have ourselves a great movie. Most of the major plot lines could be the same. Have Anakin who is roughly the same age as Padme impress her with his abilities. Somehow they are seperated from the rest of the group(similar to how they were alone in attack of the clones) and we would have a believeable relationship. You could even have them dislike each other for the first 1/2 or 3/4 of the film.
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why not 1/2 to 3/4 of the viewing public couldn't stand them either :P
Bingowings said: Do you want to see the project finished as a playable film or a flick book?