The Prequel Radical Redux Ideas Thread — Page 20

doubleofive said:

Some of the suggestions here involve refilming all of the movies! 

I agree. While it's fun and refreshing to let our imagination goes, I think in the end we'll need to focus more on what is accomplishable. But all those crazy ideas are great to open new doors. It's really a great thread!

InfoDroid said:

Vaderios, do you have any ideas on the Gungan battle?

 I'd say: let the droid army win! The victory would have a bitter taste to our heroes because they destroy the droid control battleship too late and EVERY SINGLE GUNGAN DIES IN EXTREME SUFFERING! MuuaHAhaHA.... How radical is this!

... just kidding...almost! ;)

bkev said:

The PS1 game's sound effects and voices if I recall are of MUCH lower quality than the PC version.  I have both, fun - however tedious - game.

I just downloaded the sound files but they don't have the Maul dialogue I suppose they must be in the cut scenes, are they isolated?

When I've pinched from PC games of that vintage before (Resident Evil for example) the cut scenes were in an accessible folder and I could rip the sound with ease.

As you say the game is tedious so I haven't heard the dialogue yet to find out if it is useful (do you think it might be?).

I always suspected that there was meant to be dialogue during the final duel (note the way Maul points to the body of Gui-Gon while fighting Obi-Wan) but it was deleted in the final cut to make him more mysterious (and I'm not sure if it worked, it didn't quite feel like a lightsabre duel as there is more to a duel than bashing sticks together).

ben_danger said:although it would require alot of work, i think getting rid of duel of the fates and having the lightsaber battle without music would help return it to an OT feeling. although i love alot of the PT scoring, the vocal parts did make the two trilogies sound completely different. another thing about the naboo battle, is that it is the only 4 levelled battle in the whole saga (gungans, space battle, lightsaber battle and padme taking throne room) do you think it should be toned down, or maybe split up? anyone got any ideas for alternative music in the PT? i loved the reborn clip using the ROTJ music in AOTC.

I'm going to play with the idea that instead of there being a single droid control ship the whole blockade is there (the Naboo have more fighters, squadrons added by changing the colours of the fighters to blue, red etc:

but they are still greatly outnumbered because they have no capital ships or droid fighters)

Qui-Gon and Obi Wan have to get onto the fleet command ship to stop signal jamming so they can get a distress signal to the Republic to send for help (and they fight Maul there, also moving the droid battles on the ship from the beginning of the film to the end).

That way the sabre battle is more associated with space battle and the Gungan battle is more associated with the throne room.

Anakin doesn't destroy the command ship he just destroys a ship single handed and deliberatly (not by accident).

Once Nute Gunray is captured he orders the ships away (to save his skin) and the Droids power down on his command not because one ship is destroyed (which seemed a stupid way to run a war in the first place).

I dream of a day when we can reshoot the prequels affordably.

love the ideas bingowings. i think your more linear storyline would be so much better. what do you think of these ideas? im sure your line of thought isnt too different.

one thing that bugged me about AOTC, is how camino not only supplied the endless swarms of troops under the nose of the republic, but also the starships and weaponry. i mean they could conquer the galaxy with those kinds of resources surely? im sure there is a legit EU explanation, but in the contex of stand alone films it seemed a bit extreme. it also seemed pretty quick how the jedi immediatly adjusted to their forces.

the point i am leading to, is could there somehow be a plot where a republic relief force, maybe with similarities to the star destroyers seen in AOTC show up? it would be good if this was the start of the clone wars, but just without the clones? the republic would have certainly 'crossed a line' like yoda discusses about the beginning of the clone wars at the end of AOTC.

maybe against the wishes of the Council, who opt not to get involved, dooku shows up with a fleet of stardestroyers, manned with non-clones? maybe sifo dias, could be aboard another ship that gets destroyed, so in AOTC, we may believe dooku ordered the clones creation?

it would be super hard to do, but who knows, 4-7 years time OT may be a bit more mobilised (one of us may win the lottery?:P)

ben_danger said:

love the ideas bingowings. i think your more linear storyline would be so much better. what do you think of these ideas? im sure your line of thought isnt too different.

 

one thing that bugged me about AOTC, is how camino not only supplied the endless swarms of troops under the nose of the republic, but also the starships and weaponry. i mean they could conquer the galaxy with those kinds of resources surely? im sure there is a legit EU explanation, but in the contex of stand alone films it seemed a bit extreme. it also seemed pretty quick how the jedi immediatly adjusted to their forces.

 

the point i am leading to, is could there somehow be a plot where a republic relief force, maybe with similarities to the star destroyers seen in AOTC show up? it would be good if this was the start of the clone wars, but just without the clones? the republic would have certainly 'crossed a line' like yoda discusses about the beginning of the clone wars at the end of AOTC.

 

maybe against the wishes of the Council, who opt not to get involved, dooku shows up with a fleet of stardestroyers, manned with non-clones? maybe sifo dias, could be aboard another ship that gets destroyed, so in AOTC, we may believe dooku ordered the clones creation?

 

it would be super hard to do, but who knows, 4-7 years time OT may be a bit more mobilised (one of us may win the lottery?:P)

The clones I don't have too much of a problem with as the Jedi themselves seem to be shocked to discover them, Sidious has obscured their creation via the Darkside.

I imagine that the initial batch would have been enough to defeat the droids on Geonosis but not enough to fight a pangalactic war.

As the war progressed more clones were commisioned (now legally thanks to Binks) and the Seperatists too would build more droids to fight them, setting up an arms race.

But I agree with you about the equipment.

These could 'borrowed' from the existing armoury of the Republic's small but well equipped standing army (they must have had some sort of armed forces or there would be attacks from the outside and civil wars all the time).

Showing some of this ordnance in the hands of Republican regulars in TPM would be a visual way of showing where this equipment came from without having to explain it on screen in AOTC.

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Hey peoples!

I don't mean to take over here but I would love some imput on two of my new vidz.

Without going into great detail I've had issues with the Yoda/Palps fight in ROTS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO_f39t8LGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuZRgNsz4vA

So feel free to check them out and let me know you're thoughts...maybe type them here on this thread...

P.S. Look at both descriptions of the videos...I've gone into some details as to why the changes...

You are always welcome here, sadly your first video has already been taken down (perhaps you should remove all Star Wars references in the title of your youtube posting). I expect your second video will be taken down too once they get wind of it. Don't ask me why but Youtube is going bonkers deleting and blocking (not to mention splodging adverts all over the place).

video 1 is no longer available.:S could you reupload it?:) im eager to see it!

I quite like the idea of having the prequel ships looking very different from the OT ones (look at the difference between WWI and WWII) but I don't get why some of the Republic ships look so tatty (it make sense if you are a Rebel or a smuggler but this is meant to be the official government).

I actually like the idea of R2 being blue because he's one of blue group's astrodroids (Naboo seems to be obsessed with aesthetics).

video 1 is still being weird, so ill give it an hour or so. i loved 2 though, especially the reorganisation of plot elements, its almost like sidious planned for yoda to enter so he could fry him.

i would love to see a battle between yoda and sidious to not have lightsabers. in the OT they are the only jedi not to have them. i know i keep mentioning it, but a dumbledore vs voldemort style fight would be amazing, although probably impossible to do.

the way you have editted yoda though, in an almost weakened state, would perhaps make the use of a lightsaber make sense, like he is more desperate.

Yoda does need to look a little less like he is praying to Mecca but the second video in it's rough form does give a very different feel to the sequence.

SomethingStarWarsRelated said:

Hey peoples!

I don't mean to take over here but I would love some imput on two of my new vidz.

Without going into great detail I've had issues with the Yoda/Palps fight in ROTS.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WO_f39t8LGM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuZRgNsz4vA

So feel free to check them out and let me know you're thoughts...maybe type them here on this thread...

P.S. Look at both descriptions of the videos...I've gone into some details as to why the changes...

I couldn't view the first video, but the second one was great! It could do with a little polishing, but the rearrangement is very clever. I thought a re-editting that scene would be very difficult, but you really managed to open it up. Great job!