Rhikter said:
EyeShotFirst said:
My first colour correction in a while. This shot bugged the hell out of me, so I had to do some work. There was no rotoscoping to do this either.
Original Trilogy FTW!!!
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Very nice. How did you do it?
RoccondilRinon said:
Excellent work ESF. More than most PT colour corrections I've seen, that one really makes it look like it was shot in the 1970s, which look I think I'd want to see in a PT edit. I might want the sky to stand out a little more, otherwise it's spot-on.
Thanks!!!
It does look a lot like tatooine now, but is that a good thing? I am planning on doing work to where it will be a darker planet, because I think we have quite enough bright deserts in the series. I really like what Angel did,
it is by no means retro, but it gives you more than the basic Tunisia look. It stands out in the saga. George likes keeping things basic in his saga, Forests, tundras, and deserts. This would be a new world. My problem with the original image is how washed in orange it is. I highly doubt it was that orange in the raw work. I have no idea what Ady will do with AOTC, but I am sure it will not be orange.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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mrbenja0618 said:
Rhikter said:
EyeShotFirst said:
My first colour correction in a while. This shot bugged the hell out of me, so I had to do some work. There was no rotoscoping to do this either.
Original Trilogy FTW!!!
*Thumbs Up*
Very nice. How did you do it?
That image is several adjustment layers stuck together. I even added a black and white layer of the original image to bring in more detail. It took a while, but it was really fun!!! I want to do a shot that has more orange, but this was a good test for me, because of the skin tones being as orange as the sand.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Cool, I always thought the orange saturation looked bad. A common flaw with modern "colour correction" really, they just seem to bathe each shot in some bright orange or blue tint and call it a day. But your version does look perhaps too desaturated. Perhaps you could colour in some things, like the pillar, the interior lights, give the drones a brighter more metallic sheen and perhaps fill the colour of the seperatist shuttle back in too.
Basically just bring some sort of colour back into it.
Bingowings said:
brash_stryker said:
Very interesting idea, Bingo! Could add ambiguity, come the OT, concerning who Vader is :P
"Obi Wan nevah tolden yousa what happened to yousa's fadder"
I hadn't even thought of that but come to think of it if Jar-Jar spoke seriously there could be a bit of perverse mileage in that.
If we had a way of making Jar Jar turn to the dark side (not just the dark side of comedy i.e. slapstick) it would explain why Ben and Yoda are so wary of training Luke because he's "too old" :P
Also, on a more serious note, in regards to ESF's colour correction, this reminds me of an idea I've been toying with for my edit. Geonosis could be like that planet in 'Pitch Black', glaringly bright in the day time, but come nightfall (I'm envisioning this transition happening as the arena execution commences) darkens to something more like Angel and Bingo's mockups.
BmB said:
Cool, I always thought the orange saturation looked bad. A common flaw with modern "colour correction" really, they just seem to bathe each shot in some bright orange or blue tint and call it a day. But your version does look perhaps too desaturated. Perhaps you could colour in some things, like the pillar, the interior lights, give the drones a brighter more metallic sheen and perhaps fill the colour of the seperatist shuttle back in too.
Basically just bring some sort of colour back into it.
Lol thats mine :P
These pics are for an other concept....
-Angel
here is the concept of the old republic jedi just possessing only blue lightsabers
In the video the blue lightsabers look very nice, I guess because of the dark atmosphere of the room. But for example just blue lightsabers in the battle of Geonosis could look boring.
why have all blue? what difference does it make to the story?
shanerjedi said:
why have all blue? what difference does it make to the story?
For one, Jedi are not ones to allow individuality. I think a pig headed Jedi council who only allow Blue Sabers makes them look drunk with power. It really works well for a better story
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Not to mention preserving the "OMG!" moment of Luke igniting a previously unseen green saber.
but then fans might ask: "where the **** did Luke get his green one at?
Give Qui-Gon a green one too. He's the one that paved the wy for Luke to eventually restore the order.
why have all blue? what difference does it make to the story?
Thank you, i dont see any point of this, it would also be very repetitive.
And the Geonosis looks absoululy amazing, id love to see a mockup of this in motion.
EyeShotFirst said:
shanerjedi said:
why have all blue? what difference does it make to the story?
For one, Jedi are not ones to allow individuality. I think a pig headed Jedi council who only allow Blue Sabers makes them look drunk with power. It really works well for a better story
that is also part of the reason, another is that george lucas originally envisioned the jedi just having blue lightsabers. the only reason luke had a green one in rotj was because the original saber blended in with the tatooine environment.
oh and another reason why windu has a purple lightsaber was because sam persuaded lucas to give him the color purple and then the eu made up some bullshit story to cover it up
the all blue lightsabers in the prequels would be a return to lucas original vision
all blue is ugly! Luke's green is still a surprise because u expect his new saber to be blue like his old one.
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Avatar said:
the all blue lightsabers in the prequels would be a return to lucas original vision
I'm sorry, but I think that time and knowledge has proven that Lucas's "original vision" isn't worth jack...
JasonN said:
Avatar said:
the all blue lightsabers in the prequels would be a return to lucas original vision
I'm sorry, but I think that time and knowledge has proven that Lucas's "original vision" isn't worth jack...
i'm talking about the pre-special edition/prequel lucas
I always thought that blue and yellow sabers would look great for the jedi of the old republic. And Qui-Gon, Yoda and Luke may have green ones^^
I've probably said this before, and I'll probably say it again when this debate comes around again. There are two options I'd be really happy with, depending on how the Jedi are portrayed in a given edit:
If the Jedi are being portrayed as stuffy, narrow-minded dogmatists, then a single colour for all of them — presumably blue — makes sense. We could make exceptions for Qui-Gon and Dooku (if he's a renegade Jedi rather than an outright Sith) — they can have green to go with Luke's similar individualism in ROTJ — and possibly a few others (maybe the Council can have purple or gold or something). If we're going to colour-code people, there should be a reason for it.
If the Jedi are being portrayed as genuine good guys, then they should have a multitude of different colours. Each Jedi's sabre should be a slightly different hue, taking in any shade of blue and green or even a wider spectrum — the former is probably easier on the eyes lol. Needless to say, this would take a lot more work than option #1, but could look very cool. Similarly, the Sith that we see can have different shades of red — varying from pink to purple to orange — assuming that we see Siths other than Vader or Maul using their sabres.
RoccondilRinon said:
If the Jedi are being portrayed as genuine good guys, then they should have a multitude of different colours. Each Jedi's sabre should be a slightly different hue, taking in any shade of blue and green or even a wider spectrum — the former is probably easier on the eyes lol. Needless to say, this would take a lot more work than option #1, but could look very cool. Similarly, the Sith that we see can have different shades of red — varying from pink to purple to orange — assuming that we see Siths other than Vader or Maul using their sabres.
I made a concept of several different saber colours, everybody shot it down.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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EyeShotFirst said:
I made a concept of several different saber colours, everybody shot it down.
Maybe so, but at least YouShotFirst.
Ah, there we have the lightsaber color debate again :P.
I'm fine with how the colors are. Personally I think a discussion on lightsaber color is only really needed when you change Dooku's character from a Sith to a rogue Jedi.
As for Jedi not being ones to allow individuality, I disagree. Take a look at some of the costumes, especially those of Luminara Unduli, Barris Offee and Aayla Secura, they are hardly Jedi like. If the Jedi were against individuality, they all would have worn the same.
But do we really want to portray the Jedi like that? The main problem with the Jedi is that they aren't very likable. The characters in the PT keep telling us how corrupt and ineffectual they Senate is, but the Jedi behave almost exactly the same. They seem stuck up and obsessed with rank and procedures, while being very ignorant of what is going on around them at the same time. That's hardly fitting for self proclaimed guardians of peace and justice.
In any edit, I'd like to see that changed. Make the Jedi more likable. For example, we could show some empty chairs in the Jedi Council as an easy way to show that there are Jedi out on missions. Also, removing the mystery of Kamino and the creation of the clones from the AOTC plot will go a long way to make the Jedi look less dumb.
How about we change the premise of AOTC to the Republic already having grown the army, with the Senate debating it's deployment? We could state in the opening crawl that in the ten years since TPM, the Republic has been raising its army to counter the threat of the Separatists. That way, we could sidestep the Kamino investigation, and as someone else here posted (I forgot who, but I thought it was a great idea), have Obi-Wan go to Geonosis straight away.
That way, we would have more time in the movie to develop Anakin and Padme's story. It would also make AOTC less dense with plotlines and concepts that go nowhere. We might also take some plot elements from ROTS and put them in AOTC, like the Jedi starting to distrust Palpatine. It will make them look smarter, and also explain why Mace is so on Palpatine's ass in ROTS.
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JasonN said:
I'm sorry, but I think that time and knowledge has proven that Lucas's "original vision" isn't worth jack...
i'm talking about the pre-special edition/prequel lucas
I was talking about Lucas the person, period...
(including before the Special Editions and Prequels came out)
JasonN said:
Avatar said:
JasonN said:
I'm sorry, but I think that time and knowledge has proven that Lucas's "original vision" isn't worth jack...
i'm talking about the pre-special edition/prequel lucas
I was talking about Lucas the person, period...
(including before the Special Editions and Prequels came out)
This is true. Did anyone hear about his original cut of SW? Sounded awful... Fortunately at the time he wasn't surrounded by yes men.
