Just popped in Ep 3 in my new surround sound to check it out and I have a new idea. Since Courasant is under siege maybe someone could make the planet/ city view as if it were just under an attack ie smoke stacks, fire. It just looks too clean for a city that was just full of droids.
Just a thought.
teharri said:
Since Courasant is under siege maybe someone could make the planet/ city view as if it were just under an attack ie smoke stacks, fire.
Hey, you heard that the entire planet is one big city? You catch on pretty quick.
Ahhh I just got Ric Rolled
Haha, Ric rolled. Well, at least Ric Olie would never tells us lies ;)
Glad you like my ideas, shaner. The Prophecy should be an integral part of the prequels, otherwise we might as well just leave it out. But I like the idea, it adds something extra to the backstory.
I agree with Teharri, Coruscant should look way more beaten up than it does after the battle. Adding columns of smoke would work great, as would removing all the air traffic.
SilverKey said:
Haha, Ric rolled. Well, at least Ric Olie would never tells us lies ;)
Think of me as a big, handsome mirror. If you are seeing a lie, I am telling a lie.
'Ric rolled! Good one!'
I just read a very long post of Ady's in his ESB thread, (pg 301.) Anyway, it really sounds like he is going to rip the PT apart, which I am 100% behind Ady for doing this. I expect some big plot changing changes along with extensive work on all the bad CG. I'm looking forward to ESB R, but i'm also very interested in what Ady will do for the PT. I think he can save them, he's that good.
^I agree. Some people don't like the thought that he's planning to tear them apart, but the way I see it, the original versions will always exist, so who cares? ;)
If it where me editing the films they would each be about 20 minutes long.
"The other versions will disappear. Even the 35 million tapes of Star Wars out there won’t last more than 30 or 40 years. A hundred years from now, the only version of the movie that anyone will remember will be the DVD version [of the Special Edition], and you’ll be able to project it on a 20’ by 40’ screen with perfect quality. I think it’s the director’s prerogative, not the studio’s to go back and reinvent a movie." - George Lucas
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Bingowings said:
If you are Gnostic gnosis means knowledge of spiritual mystery (revelation of hidden truth).
Yes, and I think this should be worked into AOTC. Geonosis should be a place that reveals hidden truths. Whether that's Dooku telling Kenobi the full prophecy or that a sith controls the republic, I don't know. But there are some very good ideas here and elsewhere.
shanerjedi said:
Bingowings said:
If you are Gnostic gnosis means knowledge of spiritual mystery (revelation of hidden truth).
Yes, and I think this should be worked into AOTC. Geonosis should be a place that reveals hidden truths. Whether that's Dooku telling Kenobi the full prophecy or that a sith controls the republic, I don't know. But there are some very good ideas here and elsewhere.
In other words.... Ric Olie should be in AOTC.
mrbenja0618 said:
shanerjedi said:
Bingowings said:
If you are Gnostic gnosis means knowledge of spiritual mystery (revelation of hidden truth).
Yes, and I think this should be worked into AOTC. Geonosis should be a place that reveals hidden truths. Whether that's Dooku telling Kenobi the full prophecy or that a sith controls the republic, I don't know. But there are some very good ideas here and elsewhere.
In other words.... Ric Olie should be in AOTC.
It's my job to state the obvious, mr. b.
Why does everyone want to be me? Oh yeah, 'cause I'm so handsome.
Count Olie has a nice ring to it.
OBI-WAN: The truth?
COUNT OLIE: The truth. What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of a Dark Lord of the Sith? That's a person inbued with the force by the Midichlorians (that's microscopic lifeforms that live inside your cells) but use it for evil instead of good, don't you know?
OBI-WAN: No, that's not possible. The Jedi would be aware of it.
COUNT OLIE: The dark side of the Force has clouded their vision, my friend. Hundreds of Senators are now under the influence of a Sith Lord called Darth Sidious. He goes by the name of Palpatine, and he's the supreme chancellor. He plans to wipe out the Jedi due to their stupidity in playing right into the hands of an obvious conspiracy involving a clone army that the Jedi did not have created, by using it anyway. He then intends to create an Empire and oppress and subjugate the entire galaxy.
OBI-WAN: I don't believe you.
COUNT OLIE: Then you're a moron.
brash_stryker said:
OBI-WAN: The truth?
COUNT OLIE: The truth. What if I told you that the Republic was now under the control of a Dark Lord of the Sith? That's a person inbued with the force by the Midichlorians (that's microscopic lifeforms that live inside your cells) but use it for evil instead of good, don't you know?
OBI-WAN: No, that's not possible. The Jedi would be aware of it.
COUNT OLIE: The dark side of the Force has clouded their vision, my friend. Hundreds of Senators are now under the influence of a Sith Lord called Darth Sidious. He goes by the name of Palpatine, and he's the supreme chancellor. He plans to wipe out the Jedi due to their stupidity in playing right into the hands of an obvious conspiracy involving a clone army that the Jedi did not have created, by using it anyway. He then intends to create an Empire and oppress and subjugate the entire galaxy.
OBI-WAN: I don't believe you.
COUNT OLIE: Then you're a moron.
Well done, I was gonna do something just like that. :)
Tayyab
i had this idea for the yoda sidious fight:
after sid shocks yoda and he stands back up again, why don't we have him force push sid before he could finish his line "at last the jedi are no more" (or in my opinion replace "at last" with "soon") to show that he now means business.
during the scenes when sid starts shocking yoda again, let us at least see some elesctrcal arcs surging through yoda (like mace windu) to show that sid is starting to over-power him. then when yoda blasts him off and lands at the bottom, we should still see some small electricity still surging through him. (to show that he is now very weakened and isn't strong enough to fight again)
at least that will give us a better reason why he fled rather than the way it is in the movie.
Those are some nice ideas, Avatar. Personally, I think the duel needs a lot of work. A lot of people here would rather not have it at all, but I think it should be in the movie. I think Yoda would at least try to take on Sidious, whether he could win or not. It's just the execution that is awful.
At least the fight with Dooku was built up with them sizing each other up, testing each other, and then finally drawing their sabers. Like the idea of Yoda with a saber or not, they made a big moment of Yoda pulling out his saber. In his duel with Sidious, there is none of that. The dialogue, the staging, the choreography, it's all bad. Especially in the beginning of the duel in Palpatine's office. The part on the rising platform in the Senate is pretty badass, but then it's ruined by the really lame final part with Sidious giggling like a school girl and Yoda's retreat.
I think it would be wise to show as little as of the fight as possible. Maybe it could be presented as a flashback, so it could be shown a bit more as a montage with dramatic music and editing to sell the fight.
While my mind is absorbed with all things Force Ghostly and Force Lightningly (it must be a side effect of coming out of the Halloween season).
The whole idea of Palpatine waiting for Yoda to regain consciousness before continuing the fight and cackling like a loon is V Poor.
It might be possible to introduce a bit of ANH style spiritual guidance in the form of Qui-Gon's voice suggesting that Yoda drop to the floor before the lightning hits (so it misses him entirely).
Lucas already sampled one side of TPM's "Anakin drop!" for AOTC there's no reason beyond the technical why a fan editor couldn't sample the other half.
"My little green friend" is a cute line but trimming the little and green puts it more in line with how Palpatine speaks in ROTJ.
The Emperor's big blue friend is a bit surplus to requirements too.
I'm sure the scene would flow more quickly if he was removed from the room.
Taking the silliest cackles and the most acrobatic of fake leaping around from the sequence and it would be a bit more in keeping with the OT while still giving Yoda a display of the powers Luke will later be warned not to underestimate.
One thing I loved about the saber fight from TPM that was completely lacking in AOTC and ROTS was Qui-Gon meditating. It looked as if Qui-Gon was calling on the force to help him which was great. But no one else does this in any of the other PT movies! I would think Yoda would've called on the force...I mean, Sidious just turned Anakin over to the dark side and personally killed Windu and those other Jedi with him...shouldn't Yoda be a little less cocky going in to this fight?
Attack of the Clones: Alternate Timeline Edit Thread:
https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SSWRs-Attack-of-the-Clones-Alternate-Timeline-Edit/id/66888
Thought I'd post this here as well, but here's the first test video (the interior of Amidala's ship) of my color-correction version of my Attack of the Federation fanedit (which removes the "magenta" and occassional "cyan" hues that are present throughout the video and making the film look more natural).
The lightsabre battle in TPM was thoroughly awesome. One of the most inspired ideas from the Reborn project, IMO, was opening the first film in medias res with that battle. One of the few ways (from the point of view of someone who's never seen the films) to rival the "wow" factor of the actual opening of ANH.
RoccondilRinon said:
The lightsabre battle in TPM was thoroughly awesome. One of the most inspired ideas from the Reborn project, IMO, was opening the first film in medias res with that battle. One of the few ways (from the point of view of someone who's never seen the films) to rival the "wow" factor of the actual opening of ANH.
The great thing about the OT when that was all that existed, was that the Star Wars saga at that point, opened with a kick-ass sequence - The Stardestroyer/Blockade Runner chase.
The prequels now give us a slow, meandering sequence to start off the 'whole' saga now. It would have been neat had we been given another great sequence straight from the off, as the 'new' beginning to the saga....if only George had structured his story in such a way.
I'd have loved to have seen a more exciting scene introduce the whole saga from the very start of the end of the 'scroll intro.' ...
I suggested starting TPM with the Federation fleet jumping out of hyperspace and surrounding Naboo many moons back to provide that necessary kick to the start of the film.
But to do it properly someone would need to build a Federation Ship as there is almost no workable footage of the back of the thing.
Which I hope excuses the crappy nature of this ancient mock-up (I'd prefer it to copy the style of the ANH start to serve as visual punctuation so when seen in sequence Episode IV can be seen as the beginning of a new chapter):
Bingowings said:
I suggested starting TPM with the Federation fleet jumping out of hyperspace and surrounding Naboo many moons back to provide that necessary kick to the start of the film.
But to do it properly someone would need to build a Federation Ship as there is almost no workable footage of the back of the thing.
Which I hope excuses the crappy nature of this ancient mock-up (I'd prefer it to copy the style of the ANH start to serve as visual punctuation so when seen in sequence Episode IV can be seen as the beginning of a new chapter):
Bingo, do you have a version of this picture without the huge ship in the foreground?
Yeah, here you go :
I don't mind that TPM starts as "small" as it does. It works really well since the blockade of Naboo seems a small and insignificant event, even Qui-Gon says as much, but turns out to be a major catalyst for the events that will change the entire SW Galaxy. I think this quiet, unassuming opening reflects perfectly how Sidious has conducted all these events. The OT didn't have any big wow openings either, other than ANH, in my opinion. For the PT, ROTS is the one with the big opening.